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Newsom just announced it- no new gas cars after 2035.
SACRAMENTO, Calif. — California Gov. Gavin Newsom says the state will halt sales of new gasoline-powered passenger cars and trucks by 2035.
On Wednesday he ordered state regulators to come up with requirements to meet that goal. California would be the first state with such a rule, though Germany and France are among countries that have a similar requirement.
Newsom’s plan would not ban people from owning gas-powered cars or selling them on the used car market. But it would end the sales of all new gasoline-powered passenger cars and trucks in the state.
California already has rules mandating a certain percentage of new car sales be electric or zero-emission vehicles.
SACRAMENTO, Calif. — California Gov. Gavin Newsom says the state will halt sales of new gasoline-powered passenger cars and trucks by 2035.
On Wednesday he ordered state regulators to come up with requirements to meet that goal. California would be the first state with such a rule, though Germany and France are among countries that have a similar requirement.
Newsom’s plan would not ban people from owning gas-powered cars or selling them on the used car market. But it would end the sales of all new gasoline-powered passenger cars and trucks in the state.
California already has rules mandating a certain percentage of new car sales be electric or zero-emission vehicles.
https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/9.23.20-EO-N-79-20-te…
Into investing? They're going to be building millions and millions of charging stations.
The other factor is to charge that car you need an electricity grid that went into rolling blackouts last month due to inadequate generation capacity (because it got hot and people turned on their AC).
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Cars shouldn’t give our kids asthma.
Make wildfires worse.
Melt glaciers.
Or raise sea levels.
..... Great Idea .....tell me Mr. Governor, how do we make Electricity ?
Expensive energy harms the poor in another way: by driving manufacturers out of California. From 2011 to 2018, California’s industrial electricity prices rose 32%, while the average price in the other 49 states fell one percent. [Source: US, EIA , Electricity Data Browser]
California is often cited as a climate leader. In truth, carbon emissions rose 3.7 percent in California between 2011 and 2016, even as they declined 5.4 percent in the average over the remaining 49 states. [Source: United States Energy Information Administration (EIA), 2019]
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I guess the industry isn't ready for this news.
The beauty of electric vehicles is they don’t emit more emissions with time. They should emit less due to the grid moving from coal to natural gas to renewables.
Renewables will need battery storage if we are to ever get to a 100% renewable grid. Tesla has made a lot of progress to show it’s viable but they have a long way to go still.
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Interesting read ... I wouldn't exactly say "recycled" in the traditional form though.
Tesla is one of the leading sellers of solar, so they are trying to do their part. This year they reduced their solar arrays to below market average prices in hopes of growing that portion of their business.
The dirtiest electrical grid in the US is WV. A Tesla charging on the WV grid emits less co2 than a Toyota Prius. That’s without taking into account the additional factors of extracting oil, transporting raw oil, refining and distribution. All of these require a lot of energy whether it’s electricity or fossil fuels such as diesel.
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Having said all that we are looking at at least a 30 year timeline not 15 for truly widespread adoption of electric.
Look at Tesla, they went from no production of their own until 2012-2013 to producing ≈600,000 vehicles a year now. Once Berlin, Austin and the second addition to China are up and running (next year) they will have the capacity for well over a million vehicles a year. They have proved the ev business model works. It appears VW is 100% committed to the EV transition but I’m not sure the other auto companies are. It’ll be interesting to see which auto companies become the next Motorola, Nokia, Blackberry, Qualcomm and Ericsson‘s of the world.
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