It's a little early, but...Team USA?

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Trinitite 5/6/2009 9:24pm
5/6/2009 9:24pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:47pm
JS could get off his couch after 3 months and smoke the world at the mxdn so I don't even think him not being selected is even in question - unless he doesn't want to do it.


After that I say RV and Dungey. USA would win by miles. Cool
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Trinitite wrote:
JS could get off his couch after 3 months and smoke the world at the mxdn so I don't even think him not being selected is...
JS could get off his couch after 3 months and smoke the world at the mxdn so I don't even think him not being selected is even in question - unless he doesn't want to do it.


After that I say RV and Dungey. USA would win by miles. Cool
he's NEVER done it before...why do you think he can now?
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3taweek 5/7/2009 4:07am
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I do think you should have a team from each state
Woohoo

And maybe send the top 10 teams to meet the topp 10 teams of Europe + the rest of the world
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RV and MA are the good pics for MX1 and MX3. Way to early to know for MX2. Gonna be fun to see that battle this summer.

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joe101uk 5/7/2009 5:53am
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villopoto, alessi and stroupe will go because i think stroupe will finish higher than dungey, if zac wins the mx2 title over here i can see him getting picked as your mx2 rider tho.
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joe101uk 5/7/2009 6:12am
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and anyway this year i think team france or italy will be taking the trophy off the americans
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Trinitite wrote:
JS could get off his couch after 3 months and smoke the world at the mxdn so I don't even think him not being selected is...
JS could get off his couch after 3 months and smoke the world at the mxdn so I don't even think him not being selected is even in question - unless he doesn't want to do it.


After that I say RV and Dungey. USA would win by miles. Cool
mrquick wrote:
he's NEVER done it before...why do you think he can now?
He'd NEVER gone 24-0 in MX before he did it.

He'd NEVER won 11 SX races in a season before he did it.

He'd NEVER beat RC in a series (cept for the World thingy).

There HAS to be a better reason than that...right?
THE mx addict 5/7/2009 3:48pm
5/7/2009 3:48pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:48pm
Shenzi wrote:
RV, MA, J-Law
J-Law for a "team race" like the MXoN ??? Are you joking, mister Shenzi ???


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pilotdude wrote:
Best picks at this point:

MX1 Villopoto
MX2 Dungey
MX3 Alessi


Since JS rides "supercross only" he can be picked for the Supercross des Nations team.
Sounds good to me .
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JBS
RV
Dungey
Alternate, Me, so I can go watch.
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mxtryon231 5/26/2009 10:23pm
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Stewart, MA, RV, Dungey/Canard if I had to choose...

why don't they have a tryout for the team and invite the top 5 from sx and mx?
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pilotdude 5/26/2009 10:24pm
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Ummm, because it's not in any way connected to SX?
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mxtryon231 5/26/2009 10:27pm
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pilotdude wrote:
Ummm, because it's not in any way connected to SX?
Villo, Stewy, Dungey, and Mike Alessi If Stewart opts out.
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G Force 5/26/2009 11:01pm
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Villopoto, Stewart, Dungey.

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eurohero 5/26/2009 11:39pm
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The biggest name in the sport of MX right now is Stewart. Why would he not deserve to represent his country? Find another sport where the best athletes are not chosen for a team/olympic/all-star type of event. Does Tiger Woods not deserve to represent the USA in the Ryder Cup if he misses some of the majors, or doesn't compete in all of the Fed EX cup? If RC wanted to train and ride the MXDN, would people complain because he's been out?

Reed sat out the nationals and his country was more than happy to have him represent AUS, why the animosity towards JS, give the man his credit and respect. How quickly people forget the mountain he has had to climb in this sport because of his race and skin color, but he still keeps coming out to meet fans and enthusiasts. For every racial slur thrown at him, he comes back with an autograph or a picture for someone. He promots the sport, is a good ambassador and does the same for USA when it come time for the MXDN. On top of that, he's the fastest man on a bike right now, yet people on this board feel he doesn't deserve to be selected for the most prestigious MX race of the year. As Jeff Foxworthy says" here's your sign"
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OldTiddler 5/27/2009 4:12am
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Hey guys,

Why don't we ask Mike Alessi in August, after he's battled like a champ all summer long to come in just behind RV at the very top of the sport, if he's glad to step aside to let some other guy come off the couch to ride for us instead.

This kid who we all know loves outdoors probably as much or more than anyone and who we all know would love to be on the team, let's tell him to sit this one out because our stereotypical boorish American nationalistic pride puts simply winning above all else, including any measure of respect for those who actually deserve the chance.

And, you can substitute Mike Alessi for any other top rider, the point will be the same. Stewart does not deserve to represent the motocross team, because he's chosen to not even participate in the sport.

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jtomasik 5/27/2009 4:25am
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It's an MX track. Top National riders should be first choice.


450 Champion

250 Champion

450 runner up.




We should leave Stewart alone so he can enjoy his voluntary vacation.

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Crash82 5/27/2009 5:12am
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Shenzi wrote:
RV, MA, J-Law
THE mx addict wrote:
J-Law for a "team race" like the MXoN ??? Are you joking, mister Shenzi ???
J-Law for a "team race" like the MXoN ??? Are you joking, mister Shenzi ???


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so, based on the "deserves" to go, or any other false logic, the first right of refusal is RC, second right of refusal is James, then we pick from guys that are actually racing?

FTE, you blew it, you are supposed to be logic guy. James isn't riding motocross. What would you base his ability to represent the US better than the guys that are training and riding every day?

Sure, if he comes out and walks away from everyone for a few rounds, then more power to him...I still don't like it, but, if folks can't see a guy not riding motocross doesn't get to be on the national MOTOCROSS team is logical, then what can you do.

Fact is, he didn't walk away from everyone as much in SX this year as in year's past. His margin has shrunk. You think not training and tuning day in and day out and he's just magically still the best in the world? Give some credit to his hard work LAST YEAR is why he went 24-0. Not just some magic talent bag.

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GuyB wrote:
I'd say one early possibility should go to Villopoto, based on previous success at the event, but beyond that...Alessi (finally)? Short? Ferry? Do you pick a...
I'd say one early possibility should go to Villopoto, based on previous success at the event, but beyond that...Alessi (finally)? Short? Ferry?

Do you pick a guy like Stewart who it looks like won't see a National track this summer?

How about in the Lites? Dungey? Stroupe? Canard? Weimer?

The race within a race this summer should be interesting.
RV, Dungey and the next best guy in the 450 class (probably MA).


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DC wrote:
Guy B., my two cents: Why not pick the three best riders period, SX and/or MX? Stewart would be ready, and I imagine the fans in...
Guy B., my two cents:

Why not pick the three best riders period, SX and/or MX? Stewart would be ready, and I imagine the fans in Italy would love to see him. Add whoever is winning the 450 (RV? Alessi? Short? Tedesco? Ferry?) at the end of July, and then use the 250 pick to either give the 450 runner-up a shot, or if it's a clear-cut 250 leader from the U.S., like Dungey or Canard or Weimer or Stroupe....

Like FTE said, lots of racing yet to come to decide.
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Agreed.
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88sdad 5/27/2009 6:48am
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You can make an good argument either way about Stewart going or not.

I say flip a coin.
tcannon521 5/27/2009 7:02am
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doood broooo wrote:
my two cents... All the people saying James shouldn't be be allowed to race MXoN because he's not doing the full outdoor series this year, you...
my two cents...

All the people saying James shouldn't be be allowed to race MXoN because he's not doing the full outdoor series this year, you have got to be kidding, right? Remember him going 24-0 last year? Pretty sure that qualifies him as not only a motocross rider, but one of the best motocross riders ever, and certainly the best motocross rider on the planet at present time. AS nice of a notion as it is, the point of us competing, and the selection process of who will represent us, isn't really about rewarding riders who are doing well, it's about representing our country the best we can and hopefully once again proving to the world that we are the best. In light of that, why would we NOT send our best guy over there (assuming he wanted to go?)

And for the guy who said we should send J-Law, Chisolm and Hepler over because they are dirty riders. We can all agree that J-Law has LONG history of questionable riding, but Hepler is pretty much as clean as whistle and the whole Chisolm thing has been blown way out of proportion. Kyle made 1, count 'em 1, less-than-ideal decision, in the heat of the moment no-less, and after an otherwise spotless career now he's known as a dirty rider? Oh, Please. I truly believe he was trying to let James pass while at the same time not losing too much ground overall because he was fighting for 11th place overall in the series. I don't believe he tried to take Chad out so much as he didn't exactly try to get out of his way nearly as well as he could of. I'm not saying what he did was the right thing to do, but was it black flag-worthy? I certainly don't think so. Kyle's a really good kid and it's time to let it go and move on.
First of all he ran Chad wide as Chad was passing him and then almost parked him in the next turn. I would call that 2 attempts or 2 mistakes depending what color glasses you were.


Oh by the way, what career? As far as I know, that accident has caused more exposure for KC than he has received since turning pro.
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Adam43 5/27/2009 7:04am
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I can't understand some peoples reasoning for not asking Stewart. Do you really think he wouldn't be the best chance to win?

Villopoto, Alessi, and Dungey are fine picks too.
TeamGrnRacer99 5/27/2009 7:15am
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Pure Speed and guaranteed win

RV2 (on a 250F)
JBS
JLaw

to be "politically correct" and keep DeCoster and the AMA fags happy

RV2 (on a 450)
800 or 29
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Adam43 wrote:
I can't understand some peoples reasoning for not asking Stewart. Do you really think he wouldn't be the best chance to win? Villopoto, Alessi, and Dungey...
I can't understand some peoples reasoning for not asking Stewart. Do you really think he wouldn't be the best chance to win?

Villopoto, Alessi, and Dungey are fine picks too.
Because he decided not to race the Motocross series this year, that's why. The Des Nations is a Motocross race. I'm sure that he could come back and do well, but I think the team should be selected from the pool of riders that have been posting results in the Motocross Championship series. That's just MHO.


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G Force 5/27/2009 7:56am
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OldTiddler wrote:
Hey guys, Why don't we ask Mike Alessi in August, after he's battled like a champ all summer long to come in just behind RV at...
Hey guys,

Why don't we ask Mike Alessi in August, after he's battled like a champ all summer long to come in just behind RV at the very top of the sport, if he's glad to step aside to let some other guy come off the couch to ride for us instead.

This kid who we all know loves outdoors probably as much or more than anyone and who we all know would love to be on the team, let's tell him to sit this one out because our stereotypical boorish American nationalistic pride puts simply winning above all else, including any measure of respect for those who actually deserve the chance.

And, you can substitute Mike Alessi for any other top rider, the point will be the same. Stewart does not deserve to represent the motocross team, because he's chosen to not even participate in the sport.

Would winning be a priority? If so, why not send the best riders? If not, why even go in the first place?

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DC wrote:
Guy B., my two cents: Why not pick the three best riders period, SX and/or MX? Stewart would be ready, and I imagine the fans in...
Guy B., my two cents:

Why not pick the three best riders period, SX and/or MX? Stewart would be ready, and I imagine the fans in Italy would love to see him. Add whoever is winning the 450 (RV? Alessi? Short? Tedesco? Ferry?) at the end of July, and then use the 250 pick to either give the 450 runner-up a shot, or if it's a clear-cut 250 leader from the U.S., like Dungey or Canard or Weimer or Stroupe....

Like FTE said, lots of racing yet to come to decide.
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DC, do you have something against Josh Grant. He was the rookie with the best finish in Supercross. Do you have a problem giving him any props.
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OldTiddler wrote:
Hey guys, Why don't we ask Mike Alessi in August, after he's battled like a champ all summer long to come in just behind RV at...
Hey guys,

Why don't we ask Mike Alessi in August, after he's battled like a champ all summer long to come in just behind RV at the very top of the sport, if he's glad to step aside to let some other guy come off the couch to ride for us instead.

This kid who we all know loves outdoors probably as much or more than anyone and who we all know would love to be on the team, let's tell him to sit this one out because our stereotypical boorish American nationalistic pride puts simply winning above all else, including any measure of respect for those who actually deserve the chance.

And, you can substitute Mike Alessi for any other top rider, the point will be the same. Stewart does not deserve to represent the motocross team, because he's chosen to not even participate in the sport.

G Force wrote:
Would winning be a priority? If so, why not send the best riders? If not, why even go in the first place?

the best riders based on what?
Matt Fisher 5/27/2009 8:47am
5/27/2009 8:47am
Random thoughts:

I'm not a fan of inviting Stewart due to not racing the MX series. However, he's still ungodly faast, and didn't Hannah race a 125 in 87's Unadilla mudder under circustances that had other riders up in arms (Micky Dymond for one)?

Someone made the point of holeshots being extra important with the FIM's stupid "purposely unfair" start setup. #800 may not be the fastest guy on earth on a dirtbike, but he's certainly the greatest holeshot artist today.

Also, don't count out Josh Grant- he's maturing very well and doesn't seem to understand the concept of being intimidated.

RV is a given. Duh.

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