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One way says percent of cases with permanent lung damage is unknown.
The other says 100% of cases result in permanent lung damage.
I'm still reading that most people who do get the Coronavirus will make a complete recovery.
Define 'HIGH' as you have used it here.
Mortality rate of healthy individuals would amount to data. Data that, if shared, could tell part of the story.
As in, how does Coronavirus compare to other things that kill parts of the population.
And Data, if not shared, is suspicious simply for being not shared. As in, what is being hidden from the public?
The media has done an excellent job of selling mass hysteria and the idea that Coronavirus is likely to effect the health of all of us.
If there are segments of society, who are less likely to be effected by it, wouldn't that be information that could be shared as well?
And hey, I have manipulated data myself, so I understand that it is much easier if you start with the conclusion and then throw out any data that doesn't support that conclusion.
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I have pulled that off many times and in the past it has usually meant I've got them right where I want them! As I recall, it even can work very well while racing a dirt bike - but it has been a while for that.
motokawi818, it is possible that you are the smartest person I have ever encountered. I'm always open to the idea.
But, did you not notice that I asked questions about Coronavirus in the USA.
So you give data from China! I'm sure you figured nobody would know the difference.
I'm surprised you didn't give data about the Coronavirus in Iran - I understand results are even worse there.
I asked about results in the USA because I (& most here) know little about China. Data from China is sure to have some relevancy, but without a good understanding of the important variables between China & the USA, it would be difficult to determine what parts of the Chinese data matter and what parts don't.
Semantics certainly matter when one thing says 'it will' and another says 'it can - but in most case won't'.
I was just trying to get somebody to say that zero 'healthy' adults in the USA have died from the Coronavirus!
And the fact that nobody would say that, speaks volumes about the manipulation of data & information!
I guess you're winning the making me google formation for you fight. The difference between me and you is that I don't think I'm smarter than the experts. Another reason your "healthy" US stat you want so badly is hard to find, is because of the early stages this pandemic is in. With so few cases many "US only" statistics will have limited significance. To show correlation or causation you need a large enough set of data.
Although I think you could search the internet from one end to the other & never find an instance where I tried to tell anybody how smart I am.
It is possible that I am the dumbest person that you have ever encountered. I'm always open to the idea.
But, in a debate, I also don't resort to insults or making statements that I can't back up with data. I mostly just ask questions that I think need to be answered.
Your statement "With so few cases many "US only" statistics will have limited significance. To show correlation or causation you need a large enough set of data." is also excellent.
Especially the last sentence. It seems to me that the 'set of data' isn't changing all that much from day to day.
And again, many really need those numbers of infections & deaths to increase, so they can be right! No big deal, only a matter of life & death.
As I mentioned, I'm a professional when it comes to data manipulation. And that is not something I ever intended to do. But when the boss says, 'that data doesn't fit - makes us look bad' and 'here is the conclusion, make the data fit', you do it right? I wasn't really ready to leave that job.
The data I manipulated was of relatively low importance.
How much 'that data doesn't fit - makes us look bad' and 'here is the conclusion, make the data fit' happens today on important stuff?
Yes, I'm suspicious of practically all data I see. Especially if the data looks too good or there are obvious things left out.
Which just leads me to ask inconvenient questions.
Shouldn’t you get off of Vital MX and go stock up your moms basement with toilet paper, mask, sanitizer and bottled water? It’s freaks like you that cause mass hysteria
And it's an election year - which means the level of deception only goes up!
I'm afraid truth about the Coronavirus will fall into the 'only time will tell' category.
Pit Row
There was 133 death yesterday and 97 today to total of 463.
I'm not much of a drinker - may have to up my game.
Better safe than sorry, would also apply here right?
“There will be no viewing since his wife refuses to honor his request to have him standing in the corner of the room with a glass of Makers Mark in his hand so that he would appear natural to visitors.”
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