It's a little early, but...Team USA?

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gsxrcr28 5/6/2009 1:03pm
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Guy B., my two cents: Why not pick the three best riders period, SX and/or MX? Stewart would be ready, and I imagine the fans in...
Guy B., my two cents:

Why not pick the three best riders period, SX and/or MX? Stewart would be ready, and I imagine the fans in Italy would love to see him. Add whoever is winning the 450 (RV? Alessi? Short? Tedesco? Ferry?) at the end of July, and then use the 250 pick to either give the 450 runner-up a shot, or if it's a clear-cut 250 leader from the U.S., like Dungey or Canard or Weimer or Stroupe....

Like FTE said, lots of racing yet to come to decide.
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bobby397 wrote:
I said the same thing DC and got bashed for days on here for my opinion
It was taken as something positive about James probably. It is not possible to do that and not get bashed by the experts. Unless you are DC.
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FreshTopEnd wrote:
This would be an example of the old saw about cutting your nose off to spite your face.
SIMX wrote:
Call it what ya want..."solely the opinion"

Let's send James, Ricky and Pastrana then???
Excellent team. Good choice.
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pilotdude wrote:
Best picks at this point:

MX1 Villopoto
MX2 Dungey
MX3 Alessi


Since JS rides "supercross only" he can be picked for the Supercross des Nations team.
For the outdoors, Dungey is getting ready to have his azz handed to him by a few of the PC Kawi boys, possibly along with a couple others.

Watch it happen.
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Having watched (and heard) Tyla Rattray at GH last Thursday, everyone is going to have their hands full this summer. Same goes for Pourcel, same goes for Searle.... The GP guys will all be fast. It's going to be good, and whoever is going to win, from wherever they are from -- Minnesota, South Africa, England, Oklahoma -- is going to have to earn it.

Still not sure yet which class the New Jersey guy is riding though!

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FastEddy 5/6/2009 2:00pm
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Not trying to take the thread off topic but.....
What if JLaw wins a championship...or is leading the points?
Do we send a high risk guy like him to Italy?

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Stewart hasn't always exactly shown an interest in MXdN. I'm not so sure he will be ready for outdoors. He even complained that he wasn't ready with the bike set up early this SX season.

If he was to get ready he'd be an obvious choice for the team but right now, I'd go with RV, Dungey, and Alessi or Short.
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FastEddy wrote:
Not trying to take the thread off topic but..... What if JLaw wins a championship...or is leading the points? Do we send a high risk guy...
Not trying to take the thread off topic but.....
What if JLaw wins a championship...or is leading the points?
Do we send a high risk guy like him to Italy?

Outdoors You can pull a few good finishes on Talent, You cannot be leading the series in July on it alone.

I think this will be a non-issue. but should he be one of the best I say we have to send him.
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MX479Guy wrote:
MOTOCROSS...if you're not racing this summer, you shouldn't be on the team.

Villopoto, Alessi and Short or Dungey.
NetMXer wrote:
This isn't a reward for riding the outdoors. It's a matter of sending the best we have. If someone that hasn't been racing is still better...
This isn't a reward for riding the outdoors. It's a matter of sending the best we have. If someone that hasn't been racing is still better than the ones that have, then we need to send them if they're willing to go.
Uh...guys got a point there...but is James the best we have? uh...yeah.

I mean, I understand both sides, but Net poses a good question; is it a reward? or is it about our best?
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rallendude wrote:
Stewart hasn't always exactly shown an interest in MXdN. I'm not so sure he will be ready for outdoors. He even complained that he wasn't ready...
Stewart hasn't always exactly shown an interest in MXdN. I'm not so sure he will be ready for outdoors. He even complained that he wasn't ready with the bike set up early this SX season.

If he was to get ready he'd be an obvious choice for the team but right now, I'd go with RV, Dungey, and Alessi or Short.
The thing there is he still won 3 out of the first 4 races while not being ready over Chad, who he is a freakin' beast on a bike.

I don't know, I think we have a lot to choose from that could be winners over there.
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After coming off an undefeated MX season and winning a come-from-behind-in-points SX series, I think James should be able to represent the USA if he wants to do it.
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DC wrote:
Having watched (and heard) Tyla Rattray at GH last Thursday, everyone is going to have their hands full this summer. Same goes for Pourcel, same goes...
Having watched (and heard) Tyla Rattray at GH last Thursday, everyone is going to have their hands full this summer. Same goes for Pourcel, same goes for Searle.... The GP guys will all be fast. It's going to be good, and whoever is going to win, from wherever they are from -- Minnesota, South Africa, England, Oklahoma -- is going to have to earn it.

Still not sure yet which class the New Jersey guy is riding though!

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doood broooo 5/6/2009 2:18pm
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my two cents...

All the people saying James shouldn't be be allowed to race MXoN because he's not doing the full outdoor series this year, you have got to be kidding, right? Remember him going 24-0 last year? Pretty sure that qualifies him as not only a motocross rider, but one of the best motocross riders ever, and certainly the best motocross rider on the planet at present time. AS nice of a notion as it is, the point of us competing, and the selection process of who will represent us, isn't really about rewarding riders who are doing well, it's about representing our country the best we can and hopefully once again proving to the world that we are the best. In light of that, why would we NOT send our best guy over there (assuming he wanted to go?)

And for the guy who said we should send J-Law, Chisolm and Hepler over because they are dirty riders. We can all agree that J-Law has LONG history of questionable riding, but Hepler is pretty much as clean as whistle and the whole Chisolm thing has been blown way out of proportion. Kyle made 1, count 'em 1, less-than-ideal decision, in the heat of the moment no-less, and after an otherwise spotless career now he's known as a dirty rider? Oh, Please. I truly believe he was trying to let James pass while at the same time not losing too much ground overall because he was fighting for 11th place overall in the series. I don't believe he tried to take Chad out so much as he didn't exactly try to get out of his way nearly as well as he could of. I'm not saying what he did was the right thing to do, but was it black flag-worthy? I certainly don't think so. Kyle's a really good kid and it's time to let it go and move on.
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oldx wrote:
RV,RD,MA.
Those guys shred in the Great Outdoors!Smile
Can't wait, myself!

hmmmmm...Outdoors!
Riesenberg448 5/6/2009 4:41pm
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IF Monster ends up being the title sponsor of the team I can see an issue with James going right there, but we'd be silly to not send him.

Mike Alessi is the #2 choice. The start at the MXoN is so crucial, especially since one guy has to take a bad gate pick. Alessi can holeshot from ANYWHERE on the gate and can also rip on an outdoor track.

Villopoto is the #3 choice for the big bike. If JS doesn't go, Villopoto has experience at the big dance and is extremely fast.

Dungey, Stroupe, Canard, Weimer, JLaw, or whoever is strong and healthy in the outdoors on the 250f should be picked. How about KDub or Villopoto on a 250f?!
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Off topic: Checkerz! It was really good talking with you this past weekend, in Des Moines. Wish you had coached me to do the triple...I had next-day regrets for not doing it.

JJ
Riesenberg448 5/6/2009 5:02pm
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Jimmy J, go back to watch the original Terrifirma and Elvis will tell you all you need to know. You gotta REVVV over that triple, REVVV reevvv revvv!
MX Dad #27 5/6/2009 5:14pm
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pilotdude wrote:
Best picks at this point:

MX1 Villopoto
MX2 Dungey
MX3 Alessi


Since JS rides "supercross only" he can be picked for the Supercross des Nations team.
Yep.
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DC wrote:
Guy B., my two cents: Why not pick the three best riders period, SX and/or MX? Stewart would be ready, and I imagine the fans in...
Guy B., my two cents:

Why not pick the three best riders period, SX and/or MX? Stewart would be ready, and I imagine the fans in Italy would love to see him. Add whoever is winning the 450 (RV? Alessi? Short? Tedesco? Ferry?) at the end of July, and then use the 250 pick to either give the 450 runner-up a shot, or if it's a clear-cut 250 leader from the U.S., like Dungey or Canard or Weimer or Stroupe....

Like FTE said, lots of racing yet to come to decide.
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I think if you want to compete in the Olympics of Motocross( Des Nations) then you should have to compete in the Olympic Trials..(nationals)....So if you don't race the the American Nationals then you shouldn't get to represent America at the Motocross Olympics ( Des Nations) That is my opinion........Top 2 450 riders and Top 250 rider should go.......

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72kiteboarder 5/6/2009 7:20pm
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No outdoors, No MXDN.


RV

MA

RD
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Mikey will probably get hurt trying to run RV pace.

RD 250
RV 450
AS 500

Do you guys really think Villo and Alessi could be team mates? C'mon.
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The question should be more about who's going to pay, than who gets to go, all kidding aside, who thinks any of the big 4 have set a budget aside for this ?
KTM has a good setup over there, and Zach O should be a shoe in, heck he's already there.
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ninety3 wrote:
The question should be more about who's going to pay, than who gets to go, all kidding aside, who thinks any of the big 4 have...
The question should be more about who's going to pay, than who gets to go, all kidding aside, who thinks any of the big 4 have set a budget aside for this ?
KTM has a good setup over there, and Zach O should be a shoe in, heck he's already there.
zach hasnt rode KTM in a couple years, hes been rockin the yamabog.
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davis224 wrote:
zach hasnt rode KTM in a couple years, hes been rockin the yamabog.
um yeah, I guess I needed to be more clear.

KTM has a good setup over there. We have KTM riders in the USA, but they would not have to ship bikes over as KTM has GP bikes to ride in Europe.

Zach O is already over there, he rides for Yamaha, but they compete in the GP's too, so they may be able to set that up.
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the_wood109 5/6/2009 8:12pm
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DC wrote:
Having watched (and heard) Tyla Rattray at GH last Thursday, everyone is going to have their hands full this summer. Same goes for Pourcel, same goes...
Having watched (and heard) Tyla Rattray at GH last Thursday, everyone is going to have their hands full this summer. Same goes for Pourcel, same goes for Searle.... The GP guys will all be fast. It's going to be good, and whoever is going to win, from wherever they are from -- Minnesota, South Africa, England, Oklahoma -- is going to have to earn it.

Still not sure yet which class the New Jersey guy is riding though!

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Didn't Stroupe clean house at a recent MXA race at GH?


I've said before that I'm a Lawrence fan, but at this point, the last thing we need is a team member getting busted in Europe and not even being able to race.


...Talking about this before the nats even start would have me say MA, RV, and either Stroupe or Dungey.


Of course, this perspective might just change a few rounds into the nats. I agree that Stewie would be great to have go, but some Euros still claim that our talent lies within the first place riders. I think Ferry proved a point last year, but if we could say "we didn't even send the best" would make a statement. Had MA not been hurt last year, I would have probably thrown a fit about him not going. I mean the main reason he got hurt was his ability to get the holeshot....had he been in the back, he wouldn't have been used as the downside to a jump by 39 people. I think Alessi has proven, in supercross, that his downfall comes about mid race.


But for this particular bench race, I'll say RV, MA, and either Stroupe or Dungey.
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Heve an american SX and MX team. sx only guys like JS KW? and the rest vs. RV and Co.
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GuyB wrote:
I'd say one early possibility should go to Villopoto, based on previous success at the event, but beyond that...Alessi (finally)? Short? Ferry? Do you pick a...
I'd say one early possibility should go to Villopoto, based on previous success at the event, but beyond that...Alessi (finally)? Short? Ferry?

Do you pick a guy like Stewart who it looks like won't see a National track this summer?

How about in the Lites? Dungey? Stroupe? Canard? Weimer?

The race within a race this summer should be interesting.
RV, MA, J-Law
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TJ 755 5/6/2009 8:34pm
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Shenzi wrote:
RV, MA, J-Law
Har!
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FreshTopEnd wrote:
Holding Stewart off to the side somewhere, I'd think something along the lines of RV, Alessi and Dungey, but there's a long summer of real perfromances...
Holding Stewart off to the side somewhere, I'd think something along the lines of RV, Alessi and Dungey, but there's a long summer of real perfromances coming up.
i like that whole group too. and they are all hungry to win and ride well outdoors
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Sonny 5/6/2009 9:05pm
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Check this Team out...and they would still win

Alessi

Windham

Wharton


never happen but I'd love to see the outcome

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pilotdude wrote:
Best picks at this point:

MX1 Villopoto
MX2 Dungey
MX3 Alessi


Since JS rides "supercross only" he can be picked for the Supercross des Nations team.
MX Dad #27 wrote:
Yep.
Yep again.

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