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The Kawasaki Mxon thing has nothing to do with timing, or money or next years sx training. And has everything to do with really bad PR. After what we seen last year, more then likely some of the Kawis wont make it to the end of the race. Have almost no chance of winning and the riders could try to the point of hurting themselfs. If someone paid them to go they would not go.So they are left with excuses. Just man up and tell it like it is. This race is to tough for our bikes and our riders
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rangerboy wrote:
The Kawasaki Mxon thing has nothing to do with timing, or money or next years sx training. And has everything to do with really bad PR...
The Kawasaki Mxon thing has nothing to do with timing, or money or next years sx training. And has everything to do with really bad PR. After what we seen last year, more then likely some of the Kawis wont make it to the end of the race. Have almost no chance of winning and the riders could try to the point of hurting themselfs. If someone paid them to go they would not go.So they are left with excuses. Just man up and tell it like it is. This race is to tough for our bikes and our riders
Yea the 4th eli got last year sucks.
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peltier626 8/14/2019 1:02pm
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Referring to the article, It should be a collaborative effort initiated by the AMA with the support of all the US based teams. That would show unity and have leverage toward the youthstream group. Until then it seems like a bitter and personal roa $ decision. Oh well, at least the KTM/HUSKY group and STAR YAMAHA have stepped up. Thank you.
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rangerboy wrote:
The Kawasaki Mxon thing has nothing to do with timing, or money or next years sx training. And has everything to do with really bad PR...
The Kawasaki Mxon thing has nothing to do with timing, or money or next years sx training. And has everything to do with really bad PR. After what we seen last year, more then likely some of the Kawis wont make it to the end of the race. Have almost no chance of winning and the riders could try to the point of hurting themselfs. If someone paid them to go they would not go.So they are left with excuses. Just man up and tell it like it is. This race is to tough for our bikes and our riders
I'm pretty sure that's not at all what he said.

I also think you're wrong. But have a nice day.
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zehn 8/14/2019 1:16pm
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Hot take from a burner account. OP, what is your normal screen name?
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Moto520 8/14/2019 1:18pm
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Cooksy hit the nail on the head. Very good commentary. Our fanbase crucifies riders for not hitting this event. Strong move by Kawi
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SLAPAHO 8/14/2019 1:21pm
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lost me at "we seen"
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zehn 8/14/2019 1:25pm
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Since you're obviously completely incapable of basic reading comprehension, I'm going to copy and paste word for word the relevant sections of the article. Please, try to read it and actually understand what he is saying, because he didn't say a damn thing about the bikes, last years performance, etc.

"As for Kawasaki openly pulling their support for the MXDN team, I fully support their decision. Don’t confuse Kawasaki skipping the event as a lack of patriotism. In fact I will go as far to say, what’s more American than standing up for what you believe? Kawasaki could have used a stupid excuse in an attempt to save face, but they didn’t. They came out and protected their riders and I ask, why should they go? They spend a ton of money and use valuable resources when they should be preparing the 2020 season which includes getting adequate rest. If USA riders win nobody cares what brand of motorcycle they are riding, it’s all about the country they are representing. If they don’t win it can look bad for the brand. From a pure business standpoint this decision is easy, but we all know it’s more than business when representing our country. "

"The other big issue is timing, as having an outdoor race five weeks after the American series ends almost completely eliminates a rider's off-season. Either schedule the MXDN closer to the end of the national series or like other sports have the event on a bi-yearly or Olympic cycle (four years). How much luster would the Olympics, World Cup (soccer) or Ryder Cup (golf) lose if they were held every year? Asking athletes to represent our country every single offseason isn’t realistic or fair to them."
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Doddy 8/14/2019 1:37pm
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Kawasaski did nothing by not going other than upset some people. Usually when you do a strike/walkout/boycott it works better when everyone does it...not just the one person who came up with the idea walking away by himself. The big take away is this; Husky and Yamaha stepped up when Kawasaki did not.

Some have a hard time understanding why some of us feel this way and can't accept that we don't agree. Can we just agree to disagree? I do agree that things should change/get better. I just don't think this is the way.
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SEE ARE125 8/14/2019 1:44pm
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SLAPAHO wrote:
lost me at "we seen"
Yeah, that was his tell. Now we know the OP is RC.
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Moto520 wrote:
Cooksy hit the nail on the head. Very good commentary. Our fanbase crucifies riders for not hitting this event. Strong move by Kawi
As usual, I rather have the feeling he missed the nail and slammed his finger with the hammer.
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Titan1 8/14/2019 2:07pm
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SLAPAHO wrote:
lost me at "we seen"
SEE ARE125 wrote:
Yeah, that was his tell. Now we know the OP is RC.
Ha! Good one!
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rangerboy 8/14/2019 3:18pm
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zehn wrote:
Since you're obviously completely incapable of basic reading comprehension, I'm going to copy and paste word for word the relevant sections of the article. Please, try...
Since you're obviously completely incapable of basic reading comprehension, I'm going to copy and paste word for word the relevant sections of the article. Please, try to read it and actually understand what he is saying, because he didn't say a damn thing about the bikes, last years performance, etc.

"As for Kawasaki openly pulling their support for the MXDN team, I fully support their decision. Don’t confuse Kawasaki skipping the event as a lack of patriotism. In fact I will go as far to say, what’s more American than standing up for what you believe? Kawasaki could have used a stupid excuse in an attempt to save face, but they didn’t. They came out and protected their riders and I ask, why should they go? They spend a ton of money and use valuable resources when they should be preparing the 2020 season which includes getting adequate rest. If USA riders win nobody cares what brand of motorcycle they are riding, it’s all about the country they are representing. If they don’t win it can look bad for the brand. From a pure business standpoint this decision is easy, but we all know it’s more than business when representing our country. "

"The other big issue is timing, as having an outdoor race five weeks after the American series ends almost completely eliminates a rider's off-season. Either schedule the MXDN closer to the end of the national series or like other sports have the event on a bi-yearly or Olympic cycle (four years). How much luster would the Olympics, World Cup (soccer) or Ryder Cup (golf) lose if they were held every year? Asking athletes to represent our country every single offseason isn’t realistic or fair to them."

please read your own copy and paste, it says and i quote,if they dont win it can look bad for the brand. What brand do you think Eli would have rode? I could correct on your other points but i wont. and then you pile on more excuses. timing, what about the olympics, golf, come on. i know it hurts it hurts me to. bottom line, they need to grow a pair.
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TSCHAM101 8/14/2019 3:29pm
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rangerboy wrote:
The Kawasaki Mxon thing has nothing to do with timing, or money or next years sx training. And has everything to do with really bad PR...
The Kawasaki Mxon thing has nothing to do with timing, or money or next years sx training. And has everything to do with really bad PR. After what we seen last year, more then likely some of the Kawis wont make it to the end of the race. Have almost no chance of winning and the riders could try to the point of hurting themselfs. If someone paid them to go they would not go.So they are left with excuses. Just man up and tell it like it is. This race is to tough for our bikes and our riders
your'e drunk.. sit back down on your rocking chair their big fella... because you have to be off your rocker to truely believe any of this nonsense you are spewing..
Pollock580 8/14/2019 4:56pm
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The dates for MXoN haven't changed much for more than a decade. In fact this year is a week earlier than last year.
Everyone spends a ton of money to do it, including a whole bunch of people who have much less money than any of the american riders, it's never been about the money.
Monster riders don't get much of an off season anyway as they are expected to turn up at the MEC which is only 2 weeks after the MXoN.

I think it should have been left up to the riders. If Eli/Adam don't want to turn up that's a personal choice and that's fine, but they will be racing 2 weeks after, so the whole too many races thing seems like rubbish. Kawi pulling the pin reeks of putting sponsors in front of riders Why risk Eli and Adam at a RedBull event when Monster have money on the line for them to be at a race just a couple of weeks later, great move for the sport and fans there.
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theprizefighter 8/14/2019 4:57pm
8/14/2019 4:57pm
Jeff Ward, David Bailey...all the greats from the past would disagree. They'd say you should go no matter the schedule, money, etc. Bot sure why that spirit has been seen lost, but it needs to come back.
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theprizefighter wrote:
Jeff Ward, David Bailey...all the greats from the past would disagree. They'd say you should go no matter the schedule, money, etc. Bot sure why that...
Jeff Ward, David Bailey...all the greats from the past would disagree. They'd say you should go no matter the schedule, money, etc. Bot sure why that spirit has been seen lost, but it needs to come back.
I'm still trying to figure out why you seem to care so much about American nationalistic pride
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mxb2 8/14/2019 5:06pm
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Pollock580 wrote:
The dates for MXoN haven't changed much for more than a decade. In fact this year is a week earlier than last year. Everyone spends a...
The dates for MXoN haven't changed much for more than a decade. In fact this year is a week earlier than last year.
Everyone spends a ton of money to do it, including a whole bunch of people who have much less money than any of the american riders, it's never been about the money.
Monster riders don't get much of an off season anyway as they are expected to turn up at the MEC which is only 2 weeks after the MXoN.

I think it should have been left up to the riders. If Eli/Adam don't want to turn up that's a personal choice and that's fine, but they will be racing 2 weeks after, so the whole too many races thing seems like rubbish. Kawi pulling the pin reeks of putting sponsors in front of riders Why risk Eli and Adam at a RedBull event when Monster have money on the line for them to be at a race just a couple of weeks later, great move for the sport and fans there.
Mxon a red bull.event?
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peltier626 8/14/2019 5:14pm
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Sometimes the "right thing to do" supersedes the almighty dollar. I call bullsquat until it's a unified effort. Bring on ASSEN. Thank you Jason, Zack and Justin.
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rangerboy 8/14/2019 5:23pm
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theprizefighter wrote:
Jeff Ward, David Bailey...all the greats from the past would disagree. They'd say you should go no matter the schedule, money, etc. Bot sure why that...
Jeff Ward, David Bailey...all the greats from the past would disagree. They'd say you should go no matter the schedule, money, etc. Bot sure why that spirit has been seen lost, but it needs to come back.
zehn wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out why you seem to care so much about American nationalistic pride
my comments were not inspired by nationalistic pride,they were inspired by excuse making. This clearly was a decision to avoid world wide bad PR. i guess one could make the point that nationalistic pride is what is generating the avalanche of excuses. whoray for our side, its them not us. Kawasaki landed in an impossible situation and are trying to make the best of there situation. So if i was a real patriot i should say we need to change youthstream, the the timing the track and on and on in the name of our country. I for one will be there cheering our team on, its not that far out we could podium . also i hope to road trip to AK next summer, maybe we could have a beer.
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Pollock580 8/14/2019 5:41pm
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Pollock580 wrote:
The dates for MXoN haven't changed much for more than a decade. In fact this year is a week earlier than last year. Everyone spends a...
The dates for MXoN haven't changed much for more than a decade. In fact this year is a week earlier than last year.
Everyone spends a ton of money to do it, including a whole bunch of people who have much less money than any of the american riders, it's never been about the money.
Monster riders don't get much of an off season anyway as they are expected to turn up at the MEC which is only 2 weeks after the MXoN.

I think it should have been left up to the riders. If Eli/Adam don't want to turn up that's a personal choice and that's fine, but they will be racing 2 weeks after, so the whole too many races thing seems like rubbish. Kawi pulling the pin reeks of putting sponsors in front of riders Why risk Eli and Adam at a RedBull event when Monster have money on the line for them to be at a race just a couple of weeks later, great move for the sport and fans there.
mxb2 wrote:
Mxon a red bull.event?
yea my bad, it had been RedBull sponsored for so long. Didn't realise it had changed to Monster.
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mxb2 8/14/2019 5:45pm
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Pollock580 wrote:
The dates for MXoN haven't changed much for more than a decade. In fact this year is a week earlier than last year. Everyone spends a...
The dates for MXoN haven't changed much for more than a decade. In fact this year is a week earlier than last year.
Everyone spends a ton of money to do it, including a whole bunch of people who have much less money than any of the american riders, it's never been about the money.
Monster riders don't get much of an off season anyway as they are expected to turn up at the MEC which is only 2 weeks after the MXoN.

I think it should have been left up to the riders. If Eli/Adam don't want to turn up that's a personal choice and that's fine, but they will be racing 2 weeks after, so the whole too many races thing seems like rubbish. Kawi pulling the pin reeks of putting sponsors in front of riders Why risk Eli and Adam at a RedBull event when Monster have money on the line for them to be at a race just a couple of weeks later, great move for the sport and fans there.
mxb2 wrote:
Mxon a red bull.event?
Pollock580 wrote:
yea my bad, it had been RedBull sponsored for so long. Didn't realise it had changed to Monster.
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theprizefighter 8/14/2019 5:47pm
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theprizefighter wrote:
Jeff Ward, David Bailey...all the greats from the past would disagree. They'd say you should go no matter the schedule, money, etc. Bot sure why that...
Jeff Ward, David Bailey...all the greats from the past would disagree. They'd say you should go no matter the schedule, money, etc. Bot sure why that spirit has been seen lost, but it needs to come back.
zehn wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out why you seem to care so much about American nationalistic pride
rangerboy wrote:
my comments were not inspired by nationalistic pride,they were inspired by excuse making. This clearly was a decision to avoid world wide bad PR. i guess...
my comments were not inspired by nationalistic pride,they were inspired by excuse making. This clearly was a decision to avoid world wide bad PR. i guess one could make the point that nationalistic pride is what is generating the avalanche of excuses. whoray for our side, its them not us. Kawasaki landed in an impossible situation and are trying to make the best of there situation. So if i was a real patriot i should say we need to change youthstream, the the timing the track and on and on in the name of our country. I for one will be there cheering our team on, its not that far out we could podium . also i hope to road trip to AK next summer, maybe we could have a beer.
He's talking to me, and I care about all the riders going. I've been an equal critic of Tomac and Ferrandis. The mxon is an event where riders from all around the world get together, and race on one stage. It's an important race.
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Dust601 8/14/2019 6:17pm
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This topic is old, and played out. So tired of people saying any rider who is asked needs to go, and risk their career, and future for something as idiotic as pride, and money in someone else’s pocket.

It must be easy to say stupid crap like that when you know you’ll never be put in a situation where you’d have to make the same choice.
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theprizefighter 8/14/2019 6:45pm
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Dust601 wrote:
This topic is old, and played out. So tired of people saying any rider who is asked needs to go, and risk their career, and future...
This topic is old, and played out. So tired of people saying any rider who is asked needs to go, and risk their career, and future for something as idiotic as pride, and money in someone else’s pocket.

It must be easy to say stupid crap like that when you know you’ll never be put in a situation where you’d have to make the same choice.
Other than a long history of riders who did risk their career to represent their country. Certainly they know more than you do about it.
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Dust601 8/14/2019 6:56pm
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Dust601 wrote:
This topic is old, and played out. So tired of people saying any rider who is asked needs to go, and risk their career, and future...
This topic is old, and played out. So tired of people saying any rider who is asked needs to go, and risk their career, and future for something as idiotic as pride, and money in someone else’s pocket.

It must be easy to say stupid crap like that when you know you’ll never be put in a situation where you’d have to make the same choice.
theprizefighter wrote:
Other than a long history of riders who did risk their career to represent their country. Certainly they know more than you do about it.
Look at the names turning down in recent years? Obviously the trend of guys back in day always saying yes is long gone, and never coming back.
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Chris_Cooksey 8/14/2019 7:59pm
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rangerboy wrote:
The Kawasaki Mxon thing has nothing to do with timing, or money or next years sx training. And has everything to do with really bad PR...
The Kawasaki Mxon thing has nothing to do with timing, or money or next years sx training. And has everything to do with really bad PR. After what we seen last year, more then likely some of the Kawis wont make it to the end of the race. Have almost no chance of winning and the riders could try to the point of hurting themselfs. If someone paid them to go they would not go.So they are left with excuses. Just man up and tell it like it is. This race is to tough for our bikes and our riders
GuyB wrote:
I'm pretty sure that's not at all what he said.

I also think you're wrong. But have a nice day.
I wouldn’t say that interpretation is what I was thinking 🤦🏻‍♂️
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Dust601 wrote:
This topic is old, and played out. So tired of people saying any rider who is asked needs to go, and risk their career, and future...
This topic is old, and played out. So tired of people saying any rider who is asked needs to go, and risk their career, and future for something as idiotic as pride, and money in someone else’s pocket.

It must be easy to say stupid crap like that when you know you’ll never be put in a situation where you’d have to make the same choice.
https://m. https://youtu.be/LnHTWRcyU1g
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If making good representation of the machinery doesn't sell bikes, why do the factories race??

MXON IS just another opportunity to showcase to the world your fantastic equipment.

I went to Paris Bercy SX a few years ago, when Peick had a good day. I came away fancying a YZF450. Not because Weston won, but because he made the bike look & feel cool.

*Note, I didn't buy one, but on the other hand I didn't buy any new bike. If I was going to, Yamaha won my heart at that moment in time.
blockhead17 8/15/2019 2:49am
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Cooksey is the clickbait king, threads complaining about him should just be pinned so we don’t need a new one each week haha
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