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cbuehler767 wrote:
Like I was saying I get caught up in it too. I decided after Red Bud Prado was the baddest 250 rider on the planet. Which...
Like I was saying I get caught up in it too. I decided after Red Bud Prado was the baddest 250 rider on the planet. Which he very well could be but one team race with different sized bikes mixed together doesn't determine that. And lets not pretend if Eli had stomped everyone that day we wouldn't be all beating our chests over it. They are amazing one off performances on that particular day
Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:
The thing is Prado is as good as you think, could he go stateside & clean house, possibly but I still have a bit of doubt...
The thing is Prado is as good as you think, could he go stateside & clean house, possibly but I still have a bit of doubt coz there are some mega quick guys over there.
You do a good job of being objective and honest in all the ama vs mxgp arguing. You don't pretend to know things unproven, declare outcomes of hypothetical races, or have the "mxgp is always better" agenda in what you say. I respect that. Based on what I see, I think Prado would be one of the top 250 guys battling for wins if he came here. I don't see domination or being better than AC, but I can see him being on par and being a threat for the win each race.
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scottydogmx 6/3/2019 10:33am
6/3/2019 10:33am
scottydogmx wrote:
Getting back to Herlings, I'm not sure he is ever going to get a 60% title win rate like AC winning "ONLY" 9 world titles out...
Getting back to Herlings, I'm not sure he is ever going to get a 60% title win rate like AC winning "ONLY" 9 world titles out of the 15 he has entered.
Not trying to take anything away from Herlings , I just can't see him being in as good as shape as AC at 33 the way he keeps bashing himself up.
I wonder what his % win rate is at present?
NateDawg wrote:
Probably depends on how you want to calculate it. His win percentage on races he's entered is really high. His win percentage out of all possible...
Probably depends on how you want to calculate it. His win percentage on races he's entered is really high. His win percentage out of all possible races isn't nearly as impressive.

Herlings reminds me a lot of Stewart. Unbelievably naturally gifted with more speed than just about anyone. But they both push the edge a little far and get hurt too often. At this rate, Herlings is never going to surpass Everts or AC.
cbuehler767 wrote:
Titles? Unlikely. He'll prob smash the wins record though
That's true, I don't think he is too far from Everts now with Gp wins.
I suppose it depends what history tells us is more important gp wins / world titles?
Hopefully we see more of last year's Herlings in the coming years.
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RichardLoots 6/3/2019 10:38am
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Ranman68 wrote:
You do a good job of being objective and honest in all the ama vs mxgp arguing. You don't pretend to know things unproven, declare outcomes...
You do a good job of being objective and honest in all the ama vs mxgp arguing. You don't pretend to know things unproven, declare outcomes of hypothetical races, or have the "mxgp is always better" agenda in what you say. I respect that. Based on what I see, I think Prado would be one of the top 250 guys battling for wins if he came here. I don't see domination or being better than AC, but I can see him being on par and being a threat for the win each race.
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Ranman68 6/3/2019 10:44am
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Taddy347 wrote:
This is the Top 10: 1. Cai­ro­li An­to­nio 2. Feb­v­re Ro­main 3. Ga­j­ser Tim 4. Pau­lin Gau­tier 5. Leok Ta­nel 6. Tonus Arn­aud 7. Ber­nar­di­ni Sa­mu­e­le...
This is the Top 10:

1. Cai­ro­li An­to­nio
2. Feb­v­re Ro­main
3. Ga­j­ser Tim
4. Pau­lin Gau­tier
5. Leok Ta­nel
6. Tonus Arn­aud
7. Ber­nar­di­ni Sa­mu­e­le
8. Kar­ro Ma­tiss
9. Nagl Ma­xi­mi­li­an
10. Lu­pi­no Ales­san­dro

And now think about RedBud
Tomac will be happy to land in top 10 :D

And you Merican mean this is a small Amateur series
Ranman68 wrote:
With the worst gate picks and awful starts on a muddy track, Tomac came through the field and went 4-5 at Red Bud. In 5 out...
With the worst gate picks and awful starts on a muddy track, Tomac came through the field and went 4-5 at Red Bud. In 5 out of 6 motos against those guys in the usgp races, Tomac murdered them. "Tomac happy to land in top 10". What? Tomac could have square rims and run in the top ten against those guys.
kkawboy14 wrote:
I agree but I still think when it comes to a Healthy Herlings and a Healthy Tomac, Herlings beats him Outdoors. I don’t mind saying that...
I agree but I still think when it comes to a Healthy Herlings and a Healthy Tomac, Herlings beats him Outdoors.

I don’t mind saying that, Tomac is my guy, I’m all about Kawasaki but I can be honest.
I can see that and it's for sure logical. The dude is a badass. I think the overall speed of those two in a series would be close. You may be right. Especially if Tomac didn't find a way to get good, consistent starts. If he couldn't regularly start near Herlings, he would be screwed. With equal starts it could be a crap shoot, but I can see Herlings getting better starts on average so it would be hard to bet against Herlings overall.
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Harry Backmon 6/3/2019 10:50am
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You guys gotta stop this insanity. Just say it with me...

"On any given day, on any given track - any given pro can beat another."

Just chant that over and over again. You'll feel better. You'll feel magnanimous and mature. You'll feel you've reached peace and understanding with our brothers in MX arms all across this amazing planet (which is flat according to some in the non-moto section - which might explain Florida).
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NateDawg 6/3/2019 11:27am
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NateDawg wrote:
Probably depends on how you want to calculate it. His win percentage on races he's entered is really high. His win percentage out of all possible...
Probably depends on how you want to calculate it. His win percentage on races he's entered is really high. His win percentage out of all possible races isn't nearly as impressive.

Herlings reminds me a lot of Stewart. Unbelievably naturally gifted with more speed than just about anyone. But they both push the edge a little far and get hurt too often. At this rate, Herlings is never going to surpass Everts or AC.
cbuehler767 wrote:
Titles? Unlikely. He'll prob smash the wins record though
scottydogmx wrote:
That's true, I don't think he is too far from Everts now with Gp wins. I suppose it depends what history tells us is more important...
That's true, I don't think he is too far from Everts now with Gp wins.
I suppose it depends what history tells us is more important gp wins / world titles?
Hopefully we see more of last year's Herlings in the coming years.
Championships definitely matter more to most people. It's why, despite all his race wins, people say Stewart under-achieved in his career.

Also, the vast majority of Herlings' wins have been in the MX2 class. They still count of course, but I feel like that's an important distinction.
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Ranman68 wrote:
With the worst gate picks and awful starts on a muddy track, Tomac came through the field and went 4-5 at Red Bud. In 5 out...
With the worst gate picks and awful starts on a muddy track, Tomac came through the field and went 4-5 at Red Bud. In 5 out of 6 motos against those guys in the usgp races, Tomac murdered them. "Tomac happy to land in top 10". What? Tomac could have square rims and run in the top ten against those guys.
Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:
You did see what Herlings did in his qualifying race right. Fell, pulled in the pits, put new gloves on & finished 2nd. Gate picks was...
You did see what Herlings did in his qualifying race right. Fell, pulled in the pits, put new gloves on & finished 2nd.

Gate picks was entirely Team USA’s fault, someone didn’t notice that the inside gate was free. Terrible mistake, rookie even. Not changing wheels after the sighting lap, The Man should’ve know about this trick.
Ranman68 wrote:
Yeah I saw what Herlings did in that qualifying race, and it was amazing. Herlings was the fastest guy there. I'd never argue that. I agree...
Yeah I saw what Herlings did in that qualifying race, and it was amazing. Herlings was the fastest guy there. I'd never argue that. I agree on the thing regarding "The Man", the stupid mistakes, and lack of preparation for racing in those conditions. DeCoster is a 5 time world champion and a European. He should be of more fucking help to our guys than he is. He didn't do his job. In fact, I don't think he has ever done it well. I think we need a different mxon team manager who makes sure the U.S. team is as prepared as possible for whatever conditions they are gonna race in. Especially if it's drastically different from what they are use to. The stupidity I saw with the team USA starts and mechanical issues with 2 of their bikes made me want to pull my hair out. Equally pitiful and unprepared in 2017 mxon. DeCoster has done wonders for KTM in America and finding talent, but he sucks as an mxon team manager. That may ruffle feathers, but that's what I think and it's pretty clear. I'm worried about Assen now.
The expert talking shit again about a true legend in motocross, also in MXoN. It blows my mind how stupid it is to blame everything on Roger Decoster. Roger isn't putting bikes together and doesn't decide which goggles his riders pick. We saw it this weekend again with Eli picking a tear-off goggle instead of a roll-off, was that Roger Decoster his fault as well? You have no voice or credibility to judge somebody who achieved so much both riding and managing a motocross team. He made Suzuki great, he did amazing stuff for KTM and was also involved in many MXoN titles for the USA.
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Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:
You did see what Herlings did in his qualifying race right. Fell, pulled in the pits, put new gloves on & finished 2nd. Gate picks was...
You did see what Herlings did in his qualifying race right. Fell, pulled in the pits, put new gloves on & finished 2nd.

Gate picks was entirely Team USA’s fault, someone didn’t notice that the inside gate was free. Terrible mistake, rookie even. Not changing wheels after the sighting lap, The Man should’ve know about this trick.
Ranman68 wrote:
Yeah I saw what Herlings did in that qualifying race, and it was amazing. Herlings was the fastest guy there. I'd never argue that. I agree...
Yeah I saw what Herlings did in that qualifying race, and it was amazing. Herlings was the fastest guy there. I'd never argue that. I agree on the thing regarding "The Man", the stupid mistakes, and lack of preparation for racing in those conditions. DeCoster is a 5 time world champion and a European. He should be of more fucking help to our guys than he is. He didn't do his job. In fact, I don't think he has ever done it well. I think we need a different mxon team manager who makes sure the U.S. team is as prepared as possible for whatever conditions they are gonna race in. Especially if it's drastically different from what they are use to. The stupidity I saw with the team USA starts and mechanical issues with 2 of their bikes made me want to pull my hair out. Equally pitiful and unprepared in 2017 mxon. DeCoster has done wonders for KTM in America and finding talent, but he sucks as an mxon team manager. That may ruffle feathers, but that's what I think and it's pretty clear. I'm worried about Assen now.
2F4A wrote:
The expert talking shit again about a true legend in motocross, also in MXoN. It blows my mind how stupid it is to blame everything on...
The expert talking shit again about a true legend in motocross, also in MXoN. It blows my mind how stupid it is to blame everything on Roger Decoster. Roger isn't putting bikes together and doesn't decide which goggles his riders pick. We saw it this weekend again with Eli picking a tear-off goggle instead of a roll-off, was that Roger Decoster his fault as well? You have no voice or credibility to judge somebody who achieved so much both riding and managing a motocross team. He made Suzuki great, he did amazing stuff for KTM and was also involved in many MXoN titles for the USA.
Riders have certain responsibilities, but so do team managers. This is a motocross related forum where people give their thoughts and opinions. I gave my opinion on something motocross related as well as the reasons for it. If you disagree then fine, but if you wanted me to give thought to how you.view it, you went about it wrong. Now that you've come at me like that, I really don't give an ounce of shit what you don't like or what you think. I stand behind every word of what I said.
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Ranman68 6/3/2019 12:43pm
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Ranman68 wrote:
You do a good job of being objective and honest in all the ama vs mxgp arguing. You don't pretend to know things unproven, declare outcomes...
You do a good job of being objective and honest in all the ama vs mxgp arguing. You don't pretend to know things unproven, declare outcomes of hypothetical races, or have the "mxgp is always better" agenda in what you say. I respect that. Based on what I see, I think Prado would be one of the top 250 guys battling for wins if he came here. I don't see domination or being better than AC, but I can see him being on par and being a threat for the win each race.
RichardLoots wrote:
Laughing the irony Laughing it gets better by the day .. Rainman rules Vital
I have a two faced weasel and his emojis following me around. I must have really upset you, Loots. How can I help move on?
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RichardLoots wrote:
Laughing the irony Laughing it gets better by the day .. Rainman rules Vital
It is getting worse isn't it 😅
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RichardLoots 6/3/2019 1:11pm
6/3/2019 1:11pm Edited Date/Time 6/3/2019 1:16pm
Ranman68 wrote:
I have a two faced weasel and his emojis following me around. I must have really upset you, Loots. How can I help move on?
just keep going dude ,there is no way you upset me no matter what words you use , its a sign of weakness and youre language and actions against people that dont agree with you speaks for itself ..

its good entertainment , why would that upset me ? it looks like it upsets you , looking at your choice of words every time you respond ..

just look how you react on comment above from 2F4A .. a little kid has a bigger vocabulary ..

you and your know it all are good fun for sure and by the look of all your votes it seems like you got a lot of fans ... but i quess you counted them already Wink

keep going mister , i used to be the no 1 contributor to Herlings topics but i cant compete with you




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RichardLoots 6/3/2019 1:33pm
6/3/2019 1:33pm
shaffstall721 wrote:
Anyone know how the races went with Herlings
RichardLoots wrote:
moto 1 just started or is about to in a few minutes

https://www.motorsport-events.se/adacmxmasters/#
JBrockman856 wrote:
anybody have a link to a highlight video?
anybody have a link to a highlight video?
there is some on dailymotion


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Ranman68 6/3/2019 2:18pm
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Ranman68 wrote:
I have a two faced weasel and his emojis following me around. I must have really upset you, Loots. How can I help move on?
RichardLoots wrote:
just keep going dude ,there is no way you upset me no matter what words you use , its a sign of weakness and youre language...
just keep going dude ,there is no way you upset me no matter what words you use , its a sign of weakness and youre language and actions against people that dont agree with you speaks for itself ..

its good entertainment , why would that upset me ? it looks like it upsets you , looking at your choice of words every time you respond ..

just look how you react on comment above from 2F4A .. a little kid has a bigger vocabulary ..

you and your know it all are good fun for sure and by the look of all your votes it seems like you got a lot of fans ... but i quess you counted them already Wink

keep going mister , i used to be the no 1 contributor to Herlings topics but i cant compete with you




Richard....I don't put any stock in how many "thumbs down" I get. I've got you and "Ray_MXS" talking back and forth about me like a couple of girls, so I expect an automatic, two "thumbs down" on evergthing I say, along with some other thumbs down from whoever else doesn't like me or doesn't like what I say. A thumbs down from certain people is good. I hope I never get a thumbs up from you or any weasel like you.
You just keep following me and giving me your generic, snarky, irritating shit laced with emojis. I don't get it. Just stop wasting your time. Count the thumbs down on any post I make every day from now on. It makes no difference. If I have any apologies for anything I've said to anyone, I've made them and until I decide I need to make any more, I don't regret a thing I've said or an opinion I've expressed. Not even when I called you a two faced weasel and a hypocrite. I have no regrets and I stand behind it.
With that said, just click the the thumbs down/butthurt button and move on.
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Antskan_Toss wrote:
Guys yeah first post. I saw the race when Villopoto dominated everyone on a 250 on buddscreek, live on the track. Saw how you guys put...
Guys yeah first post.
I saw the race when Villopoto dominated everyone on a 250 on buddscreek, live on the track. Saw how you guys put your hand on your heart and sang the anthem, and saw also how you guys after the event, which team usa dominated, after the event how you guys walked on the flag until it was covered in dirt cause fat Joe needed to get home. Nothing against people, no matter the race, face or beliefs. Just Zionist Jews I hate.
Herlings isn't scared of nobody.
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This isn’t the place to inject your thoughts on the Israeli/Palestinian debate. Take your garbage elsewhere.
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Ranman68 wrote:
Yeah I saw what Herlings did in that qualifying race, and it was amazing. Herlings was the fastest guy there. I'd never argue that. I agree...
Yeah I saw what Herlings did in that qualifying race, and it was amazing. Herlings was the fastest guy there. I'd never argue that. I agree on the thing regarding "The Man", the stupid mistakes, and lack of preparation for racing in those conditions. DeCoster is a 5 time world champion and a European. He should be of more fucking help to our guys than he is. He didn't do his job. In fact, I don't think he has ever done it well. I think we need a different mxon team manager who makes sure the U.S. team is as prepared as possible for whatever conditions they are gonna race in. Especially if it's drastically different from what they are use to. The stupidity I saw with the team USA starts and mechanical issues with 2 of their bikes made me want to pull my hair out. Equally pitiful and unprepared in 2017 mxon. DeCoster has done wonders for KTM in America and finding talent, but he sucks as an mxon team manager. That may ruffle feathers, but that's what I think and it's pretty clear. I'm worried about Assen now.
So Roger also fcuked up all those times Team USA dominated the MXDN???
Your stupidity knows no bounds and rather than looking at the real reason Team USA continues to fail, you shit on the most successful MXDN Team manager ever!
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Ranman68 wrote:
Yeah I saw what Herlings did in that qualifying race, and it was amazing. Herlings was the fastest guy there. I'd never argue that. I agree...
Yeah I saw what Herlings did in that qualifying race, and it was amazing. Herlings was the fastest guy there. I'd never argue that. I agree on the thing regarding "The Man", the stupid mistakes, and lack of preparation for racing in those conditions. DeCoster is a 5 time world champion and a European. He should be of more fucking help to our guys than he is. He didn't do his job. In fact, I don't think he has ever done it well. I think we need a different mxon team manager who makes sure the U.S. team is as prepared as possible for whatever conditions they are gonna race in. Especially if it's drastically different from what they are use to. The stupidity I saw with the team USA starts and mechanical issues with 2 of their bikes made me want to pull my hair out. Equally pitiful and unprepared in 2017 mxon. DeCoster has done wonders for KTM in America and finding talent, but he sucks as an mxon team manager. That may ruffle feathers, but that's what I think and it's pretty clear. I'm worried about Assen now.
robkinuk wrote:
So Roger also fcuked up all those times Team USA dominated the MXDN??? Your stupidity knows no bounds and rather than looking at the real reason...
So Roger also fcuked up all those times Team USA dominated the MXDN???
Your stupidity knows no bounds and rather than looking at the real reason Team USA continues to fail, you shit on the most successful MXDN Team manager ever!
Dude, DeCoster really hasn't been that great. He's yet to win a Des Nation where he hasn't had the most talented team. Every single victory DeCoster won he had at least one, if not both of the Ryans, Carmichael, or Stewart. He's literally had some of the best motocross racers ever on his teams.
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Ranman68 6/3/2019 3:29pm
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Ranman68 wrote:
Yeah I saw what Herlings did in that qualifying race, and it was amazing. Herlings was the fastest guy there. I'd never argue that. I agree...
Yeah I saw what Herlings did in that qualifying race, and it was amazing. Herlings was the fastest guy there. I'd never argue that. I agree on the thing regarding "The Man", the stupid mistakes, and lack of preparation for racing in those conditions. DeCoster is a 5 time world champion and a European. He should be of more fucking help to our guys than he is. He didn't do his job. In fact, I don't think he has ever done it well. I think we need a different mxon team manager who makes sure the U.S. team is as prepared as possible for whatever conditions they are gonna race in. Especially if it's drastically different from what they are use to. The stupidity I saw with the team USA starts and mechanical issues with 2 of their bikes made me want to pull my hair out. Equally pitiful and unprepared in 2017 mxon. DeCoster has done wonders for KTM in America and finding talent, but he sucks as an mxon team manager. That may ruffle feathers, but that's what I think and it's pretty clear. I'm worried about Assen now.
robkinuk wrote:
So Roger also fcuked up all those times Team USA dominated the MXDN??? Your stupidity knows no bounds and rather than looking at the real reason...
So Roger also fcuked up all those times Team USA dominated the MXDN???
Your stupidity knows no bounds and rather than looking at the real reason Team USA continues to fail, you shit on the most successful MXDN Team manager ever!
Good God. Why don't you just distort what I said, take it personally, and get all upset or something? In 2017 we had one of the team usa bikes have a total rear shock failure in both motos among other problems. In 2018 mxon none of the riders had started on the type of grid used and were unsure of how. Why? That didn't have to be the case. Mechanical issues on 2 bikes again, resulting in terrible gate picks while there was an open gate on the inside. Nobody noticed. Europeam KTM team manager talked about how clear it was that the u.s. bikes suspension set ups were set up all wrong for the track conditions. U.S. riders lined up with wet, muddy tires unlike top euros. That didn't have to be. I never said DeCoster was responsible for everything, but as a team manager, he should be responsible for SOMETHING. All I've heard from DeCoster since that shit performance was that it was a completely different Red Bud (no shit?) and basically that the euros are better, we have no real chance, etc. Oh yeah....he talked about u.s.over revving their bikes compared to euros. Nothing about shit gate picks from mechanicals, a missed inside gate that was available, no practice on that type of starting grid when they could have, and other obvious set backs that didn't have to be. No mention of any of it being his fault. Nothing. Just like 2017. If DeCoster is not responsible for any of that or in charge of people responsible for it, what he fuck is his role as the the u.s. mxon team manager? What is he in charge of? The riders know how to ride. It's the experience DeCoster has in things and those small things that make a big difference.
I didn't insult you personally or slap your sister, so calm down and quit pretending there's a reason for you to wig out over my comment. If you think none of that shit is DeCoster's fault, then tell me why and what he is responsible for exactly. I'm not interested in how upset you are. Until you give me some damn good reasons to change my view on it, my opinion stands whether you like it or not.
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Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:
You did see what Herlings did in his qualifying race right. Fell, pulled in the pits, put new gloves on & finished 2nd. Gate picks was...
You did see what Herlings did in his qualifying race right. Fell, pulled in the pits, put new gloves on & finished 2nd.

Gate picks was entirely Team USA’s fault, someone didn’t notice that the inside gate was free. Terrible mistake, rookie even. Not changing wheels after the sighting lap, The Man should’ve know about this trick.
Ranman68 wrote:
Yeah I saw what Herlings did in that qualifying race, and it was amazing. Herlings was the fastest guy there. I'd never argue that. I agree...
Yeah I saw what Herlings did in that qualifying race, and it was amazing. Herlings was the fastest guy there. I'd never argue that. I agree on the thing regarding "The Man", the stupid mistakes, and lack of preparation for racing in those conditions. DeCoster is a 5 time world champion and a European. He should be of more fucking help to our guys than he is. He didn't do his job. In fact, I don't think he has ever done it well. I think we need a different mxon team manager who makes sure the U.S. team is as prepared as possible for whatever conditions they are gonna race in. Especially if it's drastically different from what they are use to. The stupidity I saw with the team USA starts and mechanical issues with 2 of their bikes made me want to pull my hair out. Equally pitiful and unprepared in 2017 mxon. DeCoster has done wonders for KTM in America and finding talent, but he sucks as an mxon team manager. That may ruffle feathers, but that's what I think and it's pretty clear. I'm worried about Assen now.
2F4A wrote:
The expert talking shit again about a true legend in motocross, also in MXoN. It blows my mind how stupid it is to blame everything on...
The expert talking shit again about a true legend in motocross, also in MXoN. It blows my mind how stupid it is to blame everything on Roger Decoster. Roger isn't putting bikes together and doesn't decide which goggles his riders pick. We saw it this weekend again with Eli picking a tear-off goggle instead of a roll-off, was that Roger Decoster his fault as well? You have no voice or credibility to judge somebody who achieved so much both riding and managing a motocross team. He made Suzuki great, he did amazing stuff for KTM and was also involved in many MXoN titles for the USA.
If a professional coach lost 7 years in a row he would be toast.
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Ranman68 wrote:
Yeah I saw what Herlings did in that qualifying race, and it was amazing. Herlings was the fastest guy there. I'd never argue that. I agree...
Yeah I saw what Herlings did in that qualifying race, and it was amazing. Herlings was the fastest guy there. I'd never argue that. I agree on the thing regarding "The Man", the stupid mistakes, and lack of preparation for racing in those conditions. DeCoster is a 5 time world champion and a European. He should be of more fucking help to our guys than he is. He didn't do his job. In fact, I don't think he has ever done it well. I think we need a different mxon team manager who makes sure the U.S. team is as prepared as possible for whatever conditions they are gonna race in. Especially if it's drastically different from what they are use to. The stupidity I saw with the team USA starts and mechanical issues with 2 of their bikes made me want to pull my hair out. Equally pitiful and unprepared in 2017 mxon. DeCoster has done wonders for KTM in America and finding talent, but he sucks as an mxon team manager. That may ruffle feathers, but that's what I think and it's pretty clear. I'm worried about Assen now.
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The expert talking shit again about a true legend in motocross, also in MXoN. It blows my mind how stupid it is to blame everything on...
The expert talking shit again about a true legend in motocross, also in MXoN. It blows my mind how stupid it is to blame everything on Roger Decoster. Roger isn't putting bikes together and doesn't decide which goggles his riders pick. We saw it this weekend again with Eli picking a tear-off goggle instead of a roll-off, was that Roger Decoster his fault as well? You have no voice or credibility to judge somebody who achieved so much both riding and managing a motocross team. He made Suzuki great, he did amazing stuff for KTM and was also involved in many MXoN titles for the USA.
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If a professional coach lost 7 years in a row he would be toast.
Marvin lewis in the nfl. Disagrees lol.
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How the fuck is ramasterinmyass168 not banned? Slamming Roger DeCoster the Godfather of us motocross and Team USA? Guess Guy B just made it open hunting on all riders, sponsors and media I guess. Not sure why but would love to hear the answer.
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theprizefighter 6/3/2019 7:36pm
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Dude, DeCoster really hasn't been that great. He's yet to win a Des Nation where he hasn't had the most talented team. Every single victory DeCoster...
Dude, DeCoster really hasn't been that great. He's yet to win a Des Nation where he hasn't had the most talented team. Every single victory DeCoster won he had at least one, if not both of the Ryans, Carmichael, or Stewart. He's literally had some of the best motocross racers ever on his teams.
Which is why he has won so much and been a great manager. It's not Roger who has failed.

Roger really has been that great.
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kkawboy14 6/3/2019 7:39pm
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NateDawg wrote:
Dude, DeCoster really hasn't been that great. He's yet to win a Des Nation where he hasn't had the most talented team. Every single victory DeCoster...
Dude, DeCoster really hasn't been that great. He's yet to win a Des Nation where he hasn't had the most talented team. Every single victory DeCoster won he had at least one, if not both of the Ryans, Carmichael, or Stewart. He's literally had some of the best motocross racers ever on his teams.
theprizefighter wrote:
Which is why he has won so much and been a great manager. It's not Roger who has failed.

Roger really has been that great.
Prove it!
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theprizefighter 6/3/2019 7:41pm
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Nuffsaid wrote:
If a professional coach lost 7 years in a row he would be toast.
Roger isn't paid for the MXoN you dummy. He's been paid to:

Win WORLD Titles

Be a team manager for one of the greatest teams ever: 80s Team Honda that won countless titles

Be a team manager for Suzuki which won numerous titles

Be a team manager for KTM in their USA efforts which payed off BIG TIME.

It's just icing on the cake he managed so many winning MXoN teams.

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kkawboy14 6/3/2019 7:44pm
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Nuffsaid wrote:
If a professional coach lost 7 years in a row he would be toast.
theprizefighter wrote:
Roger isn't paid for the MXoN you dummy. He's been paid to: Win WORLD Titles Be a team manager for one of the greatest teams ever...
Roger isn't paid for the MXoN you dummy. He's been paid to:

Win WORLD Titles

Be a team manager for one of the greatest teams ever: 80s Team Honda that won countless titles

Be a team manager for Suzuki which won numerous titles

Be a team manager for KTM in their USA efforts which payed off BIG TIME.

It's just icing on the cake he managed so many winning MXoN teams.

Well if he isn’t getting paid......he’s over paid!
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Frank 6/3/2019 7:47pm
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Are all faggots from texas on this forum? Seems like it.
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Ranman68 6/3/2019 8:47pm
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Frank wrote:
How the fuck is ramasterinmyass168 not banned? Slamming Roger DeCoster the Godfather of us motocross and Team USA? Guess Guy B just made it open hunting...
How the fuck is ramasterinmyass168 not banned? Slamming Roger DeCoster the Godfather of us motocross and Team USA? Guess Guy B just made it open hunting on all riders, sponsors and media I guess. Not sure why but would love to hear the answer.
"Open season on all riders, sponsors, and media". "Godfather of U.S. motocross". Why don't you dramatize things and exaggerate with random, weird shit thrown in? Just shut up already. I would bet Guy B at least sees some legit points in my comments about the mxon team and DeCoster. He hasn't raced in almost 40 years, and he's old. He had real world experience 35 years ago that applied. Now he's just old and not the best man for the job anymore. Things have happened that shouldn't, and results are getting worse. Only so much can be blamed on riders. Managers of companies are responsible for results and employees. Coaches are responsible for results more so than anyone. DeCoster isn't doing shit except blaming the riders. What is DeCoster doing so great as an mxon team manager? Can you tell me? Or just blast some fake outrage with no intelligent reason given as to why? You're the Godfather of fake outrage and hoping for support from like-minded jackasses. My views of DeCoster as an mxon team manager still stands. Deal with it. Guy B hasn't notified me to tell me I'm out of line for lip farting the Godfather about his failures. Sorry.
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Ranman68 6/3/2019 9:12pm
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Frank wrote:
Are all faggots from texas on this forum? Seems like it.
I don't know. They're rare, but if I run across one I'll tell em you're looking for some action.
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Harry Backmon 6/4/2019 7:45am
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Guys yeah first post. I saw the race when Villopoto dominated everyone on a 250 on buddscreek, live on the track. Saw how you guys put...
Guys yeah first post.
I saw the race when Villopoto dominated everyone on a 250 on buddscreek, live on the track. Saw how you guys put your hand on your heart and sang the anthem, and saw also how you guys after the event, which team usa dominated, after the event how you guys walked on the flag until it was covered in dirt cause fat Joe needed to get home. Nothing against people, no matter the race, face or beliefs. Just Zionist Jews I hate.
Herlings isn't scared of nobody.
Antskan Tosser, please kill yourself immediately. If you fail the first time, keep going until you get it done. 20 story building and a concrete sidewalk below will get the job done the first time.
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Sideways 6/4/2019 7:52am
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Can someone please move this thread to the dumbgeon?
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