2019 YZ250F Trade in Value?

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grunkster 3/26/2019 8:42am
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how can you be "done with the whole situation"? I would be fighting like a madman!! Once they get it dialed with hopefully no charge to you go ENJOY IT! They are great great bikes
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Any motocross bike that breaths air from the front of the bike, breathing the dust, sand, dirt pellets of roost, gravel dust and other DUST'S is a major problem, good idea if you were road racing but off road racing not so much, consider each motor from 2014 and up disposable because thats what they were designed to be.
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CrGuy2T 3/26/2019 8:46am
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foreman52 wrote:
6K was the number in my head not sure why all the thumbs down. It needs to be fair enough that you don’t completely lose your...
6K was the number in my head not sure why all the thumbs down. It needs to be fair enough that you don’t completely lose your shirt on it, but an enough incentive for someone to decide to buy used instead of new.

My 16 YZ250F went for $6300 after the full season (50+ hours)
My 17 YZ250F went for $5700 after the full season (50+ hours)
My 18 YZ450F went for $6800 after the full season (30+ hours)

I completely understand your frustration with having a bike there that you don’t trust. After we rebuilt the motor in mine I went through the exact same thought process. Surely to god this thing will stay together? It didn’t take long until it started acting up again and cost me another couple grand. At that point it sat in the garage for the rest of the season.
Probably because he said he would go 4K on trade in but want 6k cash our right. Money is money regardless where it comes from. I guess you couldnfigurenin the measly tax credit of about 250.00 on a 4K deal. Oh well it’s really irrelevant but I’d give him th 4K plus the tax credit. He’s willing to complety lose his shirt. He even said he’d be fine with 4. So that’s why he got thumbs down.
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foreman52 wrote:
6K was the number in my head not sure why all the thumbs down. It needs to be fair enough that you don’t completely lose your...
6K was the number in my head not sure why all the thumbs down. It needs to be fair enough that you don’t completely lose your shirt on it, but an enough incentive for someone to decide to buy used instead of new.

My 16 YZ250F went for $6300 after the full season (50+ hours)
My 17 YZ250F went for $5700 after the full season (50+ hours)
My 18 YZ450F went for $6800 after the full season (30+ hours)

I completely understand your frustration with having a bike there that you don’t trust. After we rebuilt the motor in mine I went through the exact same thought process. Surely to god this thing will stay together? It didn’t take long until it started acting up again and cost me another couple grand. At that point it sat in the garage for the rest of the season.
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Probably because he said he would go 4K on trade in but want 6k cash our right. Money is money regardless where it comes from. I...
Probably because he said he would go 4K on trade in but want 6k cash our right. Money is money regardless where it comes from. I guess you couldnfigurenin the measly tax credit of about 250.00 on a 4K deal. Oh well it’s really irrelevant but I’d give him th 4K plus the tax credit. He’s willing to complety lose his shirt. He even said he’d be fine with 4. So that’s why he got thumbs down.
I meant take 4 on a trade in. Not selling outright.

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newmann 3/26/2019 8:51am
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And yet I sit here and reminisce of all the years of Vitards telling me that my 2001 YZ250F eating valves was a "first year issue". Of course I know that it just went downhill from there when it got so bad that they actually were forced into a recall on the 06 models. And here we are today after fuel injection solved all the issues carbs presented. Geeezzz
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Rohr144 wrote:
I'm calling them as soon as I get home, which will be in 10 minutes. This wont be the first time calling but will most likely...
I'm calling them as soon as I get home, which will be in 10 minutes. This wont be the first time calling but will most likely be the last. I'm about done with the whole situation.
i have rode all the yamahas except for the 19s every single one of them bought new or used had an entire list of issues, if using pump gas thats your first mistake, if not dielectric greasing the entire wire harness when brand new thats your second mistake, if not using a vortex ignition mapped for fuel, well thats your third.

The vortex ignition doesnt mod the bike or is not just for mods its cleaner mapping and really fine tunable, i hope you get it sorted but if it were me, and trust me my money is tight, it sounds like yor moneys tight, why even bother with this whole fourstroke gimmick the media has produced, just get a ktm 250 2 stroke 2012 and up and ride the shit out of it, run good fuel tho. dont make he pump gas mistake ever again.
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Mort443 3/26/2019 8:52am
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foreman52 wrote:
6K was the number in my head not sure why all the thumbs down. It needs to be fair enough that you don’t completely lose your...
6K was the number in my head not sure why all the thumbs down. It needs to be fair enough that you don’t completely lose your shirt on it, but an enough incentive for someone to decide to buy used instead of new.

My 16 YZ250F went for $6300 after the full season (50+ hours)
My 17 YZ250F went for $5700 after the full season (50+ hours)
My 18 YZ450F went for $6800 after the full season (30+ hours)

I completely understand your frustration with having a bike there that you don’t trust. After we rebuilt the motor in mine I went through the exact same thought process. Surely to god this thing will stay together? It didn’t take long until it started acting up again and cost me another couple grand. At that point it sat in the garage for the rest of the season.
CrGuy2T wrote:
Probably because he said he would go 4K on trade in but want 6k cash our right. Money is money regardless where it comes from. I...
Probably because he said he would go 4K on trade in but want 6k cash our right. Money is money regardless where it comes from. I guess you couldnfigurenin the measly tax credit of about 250.00 on a 4K deal. Oh well it’s really irrelevant but I’d give him th 4K plus the tax credit. He’s willing to complety lose his shirt. He even said he’d be fine with 4. So that’s why he got thumbs down.
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I meant take 4 on a trade in. Not selling outright.
So you’d rather give it to the dealer who’s “screwing you” for 4,000 and have to charge $6,000 to unload a problematic bike on some random?
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CrGuy2T 3/26/2019 8:59am
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I meant take 4 on a trade in. Not selling outright.
So why would you take four toward a trade and want 6 out right? What’s the difference? It’s not like they are gonna make you a special deal because you have a trade on a dirtbike.
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Rohr144 3/26/2019 9:04am
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I meant take 4 on a trade in. Not selling outright.
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So why would you take four toward a trade and want 6 out right? What’s the difference? It’s not like they are gonna make you a...
So why would you take four toward a trade and want 6 out right? What’s the difference? It’s not like they are gonna make you a special deal because you have a trade on a dirtbike.
I dont know why this is turning into an argument. Like I said, I'm not up on newer used bike prices. Let it go, dude.
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moto671z 3/26/2019 9:08am
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Has anyone else run into having enough carbon build up to hang a valve open? It seems like carbon of substantial thickness would chip off due to vibes/impact of valve opening and closing. Especially at the seat interface.
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Rohr144 3/26/2019 9:09am
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Just got off the phone with Yamaha. They again said I'm out of their 30 day period warranty and they will not help. They told me the bike I bought is a "race model" and that I have to do maintenance by the book, especially a piston every 10 hours. What a load of shit.
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CrGuy2T 3/26/2019 9:12am
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Rohr144 wrote:
Just got off the phone with Yamaha. They again said I'm out of their 30 day period warranty and they will not help. They told me...
Just got off the phone with Yamaha. They again said I'm out of their 30 day period warranty and they will not help. They told me the bike I bought is a "race model" and that I have to do maintenance by the book, especially a piston every 10 hours. What a load of shit.
Not an argument I’m ready to buy. I’m your buyer...
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Timo_2824 3/26/2019 9:19am
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Pickup the bike, figure out what sensor needs replaced, probably a temp or pressure sensor, clean the carbon, and ride the shit outta it for the rest of the season. I'm not seeing what's so difficult about it. As long as the piston didn't hit the valves they should be able to clean and reassemble. The head should be reusable after a good cleaning.
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Rohr144 wrote:
I'm having problems with my 19 and I'm considering the idea of cutting my losses now and getting away from it after I get it back...
I'm having problems with my 19 and I'm considering the idea of cutting my losses now and getting away from it after I get it back from the shop. I don't have a big enough wallet to keep paying to fix the problem. Bike has 15 hours on it and I still owe on it. I understand I will be losing money but I'd rather do that and get a cheaper bike that's more reliable than have a $9000 paperweight in my garage. Anyone have a ballpark estimate of how much I'd get for it?
Yamaha are junk these days, my 15 yz250f snapped a rod at 56 hours and I never hit the rev limiter in my life, complete junk and I have an expensive paperweight because of it
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Timo_2824 3/26/2019 9:36am
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ben5020 wrote:
Yamaha are junk these days, my 15 yz250f snapped a rod at 56 hours and I never hit the rev limiter in my life, complete junk...
Yamaha are junk these days, my 15 yz250f snapped a rod at 56 hours and I never hit the rev limiter in my life, complete junk and I have an expensive paperweight because of it
Fix it and have a dirt bike again? So many people are bitching about things that happen and are completely repairable. Rods have always broke, piston skirts shatter, valve heads break off. Shit happens, especially on 1/4 liter engines pumping out 40hp. You use the service manual that came with the bike to disassemble, repair, reassemble, and then continue riding. I started breaking shit the same day I started riding...
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newmann wrote:
And yet I sit here and reminisce of all the years of Vitards telling me that my 2001 YZ250F eating valves was a "first year issue"...
And yet I sit here and reminisce of all the years of Vitards telling me that my 2001 YZ250F eating valves was a "first year issue". Of course I know that it just went downhill from there when it got so bad that they actually were forced into a recall on the 06 models. And here we are today after fuel injection solved all the issues carbs presented. Geeezzz
I had an 06 that I put a ton of hard hours on with zero issues at all. I must have gotten lucky haha.
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ben5020 wrote:
Yamaha are junk these days, my 15 yz250f snapped a rod at 56 hours and I never hit the rev limiter in my life, complete junk...
Yamaha are junk these days, my 15 yz250f snapped a rod at 56 hours and I never hit the rev limiter in my life, complete junk and I have an expensive paperweight because of it
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Fix it and have a dirt bike again? So many people are bitching about things that happen and are completely repairable. Rods have always broke, piston...
Fix it and have a dirt bike again? So many people are bitching about things that happen and are completely repairable. Rods have always broke, piston skirts shatter, valve heads break off. Shit happens, especially on 1/4 liter engines pumping out 40hp. You use the service manual that came with the bike to disassemble, repair, reassemble, and then continue riding. I started breaking shit the same day I started riding...
Weren’t there some threads about why the sport isn’t growing? Your $9000 machine breaks? Quit bitching and fix it - because everyone has the tools and knowledge to do it. If you don’t, you shouldn’t be riding, right? Well, people are taking that advice and aren’t riding. And why would they, if they thought they were going to have to ride with people so dismissive of their concerns?
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mattyhamz2 3/26/2019 10:04am
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newmann wrote:
And yet I sit here and reminisce of all the years of Vitards telling me that my 2001 YZ250F eating valves was a "first year issue"...
And yet I sit here and reminisce of all the years of Vitards telling me that my 2001 YZ250F eating valves was a "first year issue". Of course I know that it just went downhill from there when it got so bad that they actually were forced into a recall on the 06 models. And here we are today after fuel injection solved all the issues carbs presented. Geeezzz
psg119 wrote:
I had an 06 that I put a ton of hard hours on with zero issues at all. I must have gotten lucky haha.
I say the same thing about my 05 kx250f. Couple hundred hours, 1 piston and 1 clutch. Never had an issue other than the transmission. But everyone else blew them up or overheated them. Guess I was lucky too haha

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MPJC wrote:
Weren’t there some threads about why the sport isn’t growing? Your $9000 machine breaks? Quit bitching and fix it - because everyone has the tools and...
Weren’t there some threads about why the sport isn’t growing? Your $9000 machine breaks? Quit bitching and fix it - because everyone has the tools and knowledge to do it. If you don’t, you shouldn’t be riding, right? Well, people are taking that advice and aren’t riding. And why would they, if they thought they were going to have to ride with people so dismissive of their concerns?
Motorcycles are one of the cheapest motorsports hobbies one can have. If a 3000k motor is going to break you, it’s time to take up something else or buy a 2 stroke. The rings for the LS street/strip motor I’m helping my buddy put together are 1500 alone and the tracks are PACKED during race season and test/tune nights.

Have your dealer reach out to a Yamaha District Manager. I don’t see why they wouldn’t at least cover a portion of this as long as there isn’t something else going on here that you’re not telling us.
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MPJC 3/26/2019 10:24am
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MPJC wrote:
Weren’t there some threads about why the sport isn’t growing? Your $9000 machine breaks? Quit bitching and fix it - because everyone has the tools and...
Weren’t there some threads about why the sport isn’t growing? Your $9000 machine breaks? Quit bitching and fix it - because everyone has the tools and knowledge to do it. If you don’t, you shouldn’t be riding, right? Well, people are taking that advice and aren’t riding. And why would they, if they thought they were going to have to ride with people so dismissive of their concerns?
Premix wrote:
Motorcycles are one of the cheapest motorsports hobbies one can have. If a 3000k motor is going to break you, it’s time to take up something...
Motorcycles are one of the cheapest motorsports hobbies one can have. If a 3000k motor is going to break you, it’s time to take up something else or buy a 2 stroke. The rings for the LS street/strip motor I’m helping my buddy put together are 1500 alone and the tracks are PACKED during race season and test/tune nights.

Have your dealer reach out to a Yamaha District Manager. I don’t see why they wouldn’t at least cover a portion of this as long as there isn’t something else going on here that you’re not telling us.
$3000? I recall hearing not long ago that most people (I don't remember if it was U.S. or Canada - similar in each, I think) couldn't afford a $400 emergency expense. So yes, a $3000 expense will break most people and they are taking up something else. It's in that context that it strikes me as preposterous to refer to people who are trying to stay in the sport and are frustrated by large expenses on new machines as "bitching". Perhaps KTM is on to something by actually looking after you if your new bike breaks. It's a great way to keep people in the sport.

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foreman52 3/26/2019 10:43am
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Probably because he said he would go 4K on trade in but want 6k cash our right. Money is money regardless where it comes from. I...
Probably because he said he would go 4K on trade in but want 6k cash our right. Money is money regardless where it comes from. I guess you couldnfigurenin the measly tax credit of about 250.00 on a 4K deal. Oh well it’s really irrelevant but I’d give him th 4K plus the tax credit. He’s willing to complety lose his shirt. He even said he’d be fine with 4. So that’s why he got thumbs down.
Rohr144 wrote:
I meant take 4 on a trade in. Not selling outright.
Mort443 wrote:
So you’d rather give it to the dealer who’s “screwing you” for 4,000 and have to charge $6,000 to unload a problematic bike on some random?
If the 17 Honda he is looking at say $6K than:

$4K trade in = $2K difference on Honda + tax on the $2K (~$300). Complete total $6300 of Honda.
$6K private sale = $6K on Honda + tax on the $6K (~$900). Complete total $6900 of Honda.

I know what I would do. Take the trade and your hands are wiped clean of it and leave it as the dealers problem. Sell it privately and you may have a very pissed off person coming after you.
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Rohr144 wrote:
I meant take 4 on a trade in. Not selling outright.
Mort443 wrote:
So you’d rather give it to the dealer who’s “screwing you” for 4,000 and have to charge $6,000 to unload a problematic bike on some random?
foreman52 wrote:
If the 17 Honda he is looking at say $6K than: $4K trade in = $2K difference on Honda + tax on the $2K (~$300). Complete...
If the 17 Honda he is looking at say $6K than:

$4K trade in = $2K difference on Honda + tax on the $2K (~$300). Complete total $6300 of Honda.
$6K private sale = $6K on Honda + tax on the $6K (~$900). Complete total $6900 of Honda.

I know what I would do. Take the trade and your hands are wiped clean of it and leave it as the dealers problem. Sell it privately and you may have a very pissed off person coming after you.
Or if the private party gave him 4K he’s still paying his Yamaha loan and can give the dealer 4K on the Honda and only have tax on 2k....

I doubt he’s going to pay off his loan for the Yamaha because I’m sure it’d be over $5,000 and then he’s financing another $6,000+ I’d just buy a motor at that point.

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Rohr144 3/26/2019 10:53am
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I meant take 4 on a trade in. Not selling outright.
Mort443 wrote:
So you’d rather give it to the dealer who’s “screwing you” for 4,000 and have to charge $6,000 to unload a problematic bike on some random?
foreman52 wrote:
If the 17 Honda he is looking at say $6K than: $4K trade in = $2K difference on Honda + tax on the $2K (~$300). Complete...
If the 17 Honda he is looking at say $6K than:

$4K trade in = $2K difference on Honda + tax on the $2K (~$300). Complete total $6300 of Honda.
$6K private sale = $6K on Honda + tax on the $6K (~$900). Complete total $6900 of Honda.

I know what I would do. Take the trade and your hands are wiped clean of it and leave it as the dealers problem. Sell it privately and you may have a very pissed off person coming after you.
Exactly my thoughts. The 17 Honda is $5000 at the same dealer, which is what is catching my eye.
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Mort443 3/26/2019 11:01am
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So you’d rather give it to the dealer who’s “screwing you” for 4,000 and have to charge $6,000 to unload a problematic bike on some random?
foreman52 wrote:
If the 17 Honda he is looking at say $6K than: $4K trade in = $2K difference on Honda + tax on the $2K (~$300). Complete...
If the 17 Honda he is looking at say $6K than:

$4K trade in = $2K difference on Honda + tax on the $2K (~$300). Complete total $6300 of Honda.
$6K private sale = $6K on Honda + tax on the $6K (~$900). Complete total $6900 of Honda.

I know what I would do. Take the trade and your hands are wiped clean of it and leave it as the dealers problem. Sell it privately and you may have a very pissed off person coming after you.
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Exactly my thoughts. The 17 Honda is $5000 at the same dealer, which is what is catching my eye.
Just trying to help not being a dick... I’m guessing if you’re making payments you don’t have the title. I know you can sell private party this way but can you trade it in?

Just trying to say it’s not like you’re spending $1,000 more if it’s $5,000 because you’d still be paying for the Yamaha. And $4,999 for a 17 Honda 250 is a smoking deal.
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Rohr144 3/26/2019 11:06am
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foreman52 wrote:
If the 17 Honda he is looking at say $6K than: $4K trade in = $2K difference on Honda + tax on the $2K (~$300). Complete...
If the 17 Honda he is looking at say $6K than:

$4K trade in = $2K difference on Honda + tax on the $2K (~$300). Complete total $6300 of Honda.
$6K private sale = $6K on Honda + tax on the $6K (~$900). Complete total $6900 of Honda.

I know what I would do. Take the trade and your hands are wiped clean of it and leave it as the dealers problem. Sell it privately and you may have a very pissed off person coming after you.
Rohr144 wrote:
Exactly my thoughts. The 17 Honda is $5000 at the same dealer, which is what is catching my eye.
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Just trying to help not being a dick... I’m guessing if you’re making payments you don’t have the title. I know you can sell private party...
Just trying to help not being a dick... I’m guessing if you’re making payments you don’t have the title. I know you can sell private party this way but can you trade it in?

Just trying to say it’s not like you’re spending $1,000 more if it’s $5,000 because you’d still be paying for the Yamaha. And $4,999 for a 17 Honda 250 is a smoking deal.
I understand. Yes I still owe on the Yamaha and no, I did not pay for the title. I understand I'd still have to pay the difference from my trade in value to what I still owe on the bike, all I'm saying is if I got offered an "okay" amount for trade in and was okay with how the numbers would turn out, I would take it. It's not a great situation to be in but its the situation I have and I'm trying to choose the best way to get away from this bike before I have more problems in 20 riding hours.
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Mort443 3/26/2019 11:14am
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Rohr144 wrote:
Exactly my thoughts. The 17 Honda is $5000 at the same dealer, which is what is catching my eye.
Mort443 wrote:
Just trying to help not being a dick... I’m guessing if you’re making payments you don’t have the title. I know you can sell private party...
Just trying to help not being a dick... I’m guessing if you’re making payments you don’t have the title. I know you can sell private party this way but can you trade it in?

Just trying to say it’s not like you’re spending $1,000 more if it’s $5,000 because you’d still be paying for the Yamaha. And $4,999 for a 17 Honda 250 is a smoking deal.
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I understand. Yes I still owe on the Yamaha and no, I did not pay for the title. I understand I'd still have to pay the...
I understand. Yes I still owe on the Yamaha and no, I did not pay for the title. I understand I'd still have to pay the difference from my trade in value to what I still owe on the bike, all I'm saying is if I got offered an "okay" amount for trade in and was okay with how the numbers would turn out, I would take it. It's not a great situation to be in but its the situation I have and I'm trying to choose the best way to get away from this bike before I have more problems in 20 riding hours.
I’d try another Yamaha dealer be crazy if it’s a known problem and no help.
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Rohr144 3/26/2019 11:19am
3/26/2019 11:19am
Mort443 wrote:
Just trying to help not being a dick... I’m guessing if you’re making payments you don’t have the title. I know you can sell private party...
Just trying to help not being a dick... I’m guessing if you’re making payments you don’t have the title. I know you can sell private party this way but can you trade it in?

Just trying to say it’s not like you’re spending $1,000 more if it’s $5,000 because you’d still be paying for the Yamaha. And $4,999 for a 17 Honda 250 is a smoking deal.
Rohr144 wrote:
I understand. Yes I still owe on the Yamaha and no, I did not pay for the title. I understand I'd still have to pay the...
I understand. Yes I still owe on the Yamaha and no, I did not pay for the title. I understand I'd still have to pay the difference from my trade in value to what I still owe on the bike, all I'm saying is if I got offered an "okay" amount for trade in and was okay with how the numbers would turn out, I would take it. It's not a great situation to be in but its the situation I have and I'm trying to choose the best way to get away from this bike before I have more problems in 20 riding hours.
Mort443 wrote:
I’d try another Yamaha dealer be crazy if it’s a known problem and no help.
I'm waiting on the call back from the service manager at the dealer right now. They have already told me that the labor bill is 600-700 alone just for taking apart the bike... am I allowed to pick up the bike with the parts in a box and take it elsewhere without having to pay that bill? I cant imagine how the bill is already that high, just from taking it apart and cleaning the head from carbon build up.
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Timo_2824 3/26/2019 11:20am
3/26/2019 11:20am
ben5020 wrote:
Yamaha are junk these days, my 15 yz250f snapped a rod at 56 hours and I never hit the rev limiter in my life, complete junk...
Yamaha are junk these days, my 15 yz250f snapped a rod at 56 hours and I never hit the rev limiter in my life, complete junk and I have an expensive paperweight because of it
Timo_2824 wrote:
Fix it and have a dirt bike again? So many people are bitching about things that happen and are completely repairable. Rods have always broke, piston...
Fix it and have a dirt bike again? So many people are bitching about things that happen and are completely repairable. Rods have always broke, piston skirts shatter, valve heads break off. Shit happens, especially on 1/4 liter engines pumping out 40hp. You use the service manual that came with the bike to disassemble, repair, reassemble, and then continue riding. I started breaking shit the same day I started riding...
MPJC wrote:
Weren’t there some threads about why the sport isn’t growing? Your $9000 machine breaks? Quit bitching and fix it - because everyone has the tools and...
Weren’t there some threads about why the sport isn’t growing? Your $9000 machine breaks? Quit bitching and fix it - because everyone has the tools and knowledge to do it. If you don’t, you shouldn’t be riding, right? Well, people are taking that advice and aren’t riding. And why would they, if they thought they were going to have to ride with people so dismissive of their concerns?
I didn't have the tools or knowledge when I started, I learned as different parts needed repaired. The problem I have with people is when they don't want to learn, or even try for that matter. The engine is blown up, what are you going to do to it if you tear into it, it's already broken. Parts are cheap, you don't have to replace the valves every time you take the engine apart. When I was in college I replaced the rings only on my 04 KX250, the piston was in spec so I reused it. On my 250f I ran the same valves for 300 hours because they were in spec. My first legitimate dirt bike was a blown up 98 yz250, I had never rebuilt an engine before. I tore the base gasket and used it anyway, when I started it was dumping coolant out the base of the cylinder, but it made me feel great because it started. A little bit of yamahabond and another hour I was riding it in my parents backyard. If you really want to ride, you'll find a way. Bikes have always been expensive, and they have always broke. People have changed more than bikes in the last 30 years.
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mattyhamz2 3/26/2019 11:26am
3/26/2019 11:26am
Rohr144 wrote:
I understand. Yes I still owe on the Yamaha and no, I did not pay for the title. I understand I'd still have to pay the...
I understand. Yes I still owe on the Yamaha and no, I did not pay for the title. I understand I'd still have to pay the difference from my trade in value to what I still owe on the bike, all I'm saying is if I got offered an "okay" amount for trade in and was okay with how the numbers would turn out, I would take it. It's not a great situation to be in but its the situation I have and I'm trying to choose the best way to get away from this bike before I have more problems in 20 riding hours.
Mort443 wrote:
I’d try another Yamaha dealer be crazy if it’s a known problem and no help.
Rohr144 wrote:
I'm waiting on the call back from the service manager at the dealer right now. They have already told me that the labor bill is 600-700...
I'm waiting on the call back from the service manager at the dealer right now. They have already told me that the labor bill is 600-700 alone just for taking apart the bike... am I allowed to pick up the bike with the parts in a box and take it elsewhere without having to pay that bill? I cant imagine how the bill is already that high, just from taking it apart and cleaning the head from carbon build up.
600-700 for labor? What a rip off....

Labor to fully rebuild a 4 stroke at the shop I worked at was 425...
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