hauler/trailer question

pitbike502
Profile picture for user pitbike502
Posts
4509
Joined
12/26/2007
Location
Syracuse, NY, USA
pitbike502
Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 2:50pm
i just bought a 22ft pace hauler. towing it with my 5.6 titan. literally just bought it, and the biggest thing i have towed is my 12 ft camper. trailer rep told me i should get sway bars and all that, anybody know anything else?
|
drmarkr
Profile picture for user drmarkr
Posts
3226
Joined
8/21/2006
Location
Tucson, AZ, USA
drmarkr 4/8/2009 9:44pm
4/8/2009 9:44pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:19pm
Is that engine/drivetrain going to handle that much weight?? I'd move to a Duramax....seriously. It would have to last way longer pulling that trailer than the Titan.


MxDaD324
Profile picture for user MxDaD324
Posts
1628
Joined
9/28/2008
Location
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
MxDaD324 4/8/2009 10:06pm
4/8/2009 10:06pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:19pm
Yes you will definitely need sway control on a bumper pull trailer. I have had several trailers over the years and they are a must have. I recommend a system like this below made by Reese.


UpTiTe 4/8/2009 10:10pm
4/8/2009 10:10pm
With a truck that size I would get an equlizer hitch with a sway bar. I pull a 31 foot trailer with a F-350 and that is what I use. It works great I can do 75-80 no prob without worring about it going side to side, pulls straight and true, I highly recomend it.

Hope that trailer has an electric brake or youll need to buy some stock in a brake company with that truck.

The Shop

See All »
wet paint
Profile picture for user wet paint
Posts
404
Joined
7/15/2008
Location
Chesnee, SC, USA
wet paint 4/9/2009 5:44am
4/9/2009 5:44am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:19pm
How many bikes? How much wt. 4 bikes and tools ,gear ? 55 gl. of water is about 400 lbs. I have never had the need for the sway device as long as you load it right. But it is insurance. Use the front axle as your center line for the trailer. Keep the wt. 55% front 45% rear. If you do haul a water drum or two put them over the axles in the center of the trailer .Your truck should pull it fine as long as you dont get over 2000 lbs.remember the trailer was designed to haul about 4200 or up depending on your axles. I would go with levelers for the reason of keeping the trailer as level as possible. If you have torsion axles it needs to be level or as close as you can get it to keep the tires from wearing out fast .To high in the front and you kill the rear tires on the inside, to low and you kill the front plus you have moved the center line of the trailer up and now you are looking for it to sway or get you in trouble, be sure to check the jam nut on the bottom of the hitch before you tow, it is designed to pivit on the lower bolt ,if the jam nut is tight and the ball can not pivit your truck will ride ruff and crack or brake your frame after a period of time. The jam nut is for pulling a trailer with out the leveling arms hooked up so the ball does not flop forward and backward. And yes the electric brake is a must. Sorry for writing so much , just trying to save you some headaches.
lumpy790
Profile picture for user lumpy790
Posts
11707
Joined
9/18/2007
Location
York, SC, USA
lumpy790 4/9/2009 6:07am
4/9/2009 6:07am
I agree with wet paint......as long as you balance the load right you will be ok. I also agree with the trailer needing brakes.
CR250Rider
Profile picture for user CR250Rider
Posts
6706
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Moses Lake, WA, USA
CR250Rider 4/9/2009 6:29am
4/9/2009 6:29am
#1 DON'T SPEED
those Titans are pretty stout, aren't they rated to tow +9,000 lbs?

RNagy052
Profile picture for user RNagy052
Posts
768
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Bryceville, FL, USA
RNagy052 4/9/2009 6:41am
4/9/2009 6:41am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:19pm
I pull a 24ft Campmaster with my 5.4L F-150 no problem. Of course what I put in my trailer and what you put in yours may make a big difference in actual weight of what you are towing. I put two bikes, generator, gear, tools, fill up the fresh water tank, plus stuff in the living area and also have a full drum of water in the back bed of my pickup for washing the bikes at the track..

I would recommend getting a leveling and anti-sway device like others on here have posted. You really don't want to get blasted going down the freeway by a semi hauling ass past you without the anti-sway device.
pitbike502
Profile picture for user pitbike502
Posts
4509
Joined
12/26/2007
Location
Syracuse, NY, USA
pitbike502 4/9/2009 8:35am
4/9/2009 8:35am
Thanks guys, I checked out all the sway bars,750lbs ones i guess is what im getting. def goin to get the electric brake set up too.
Steve47
Profile picture for user Steve47
Posts
274
Joined
8/15/2006
Location
Winter Springs, FL, USA
Steve47 4/9/2009 8:52am
4/9/2009 8:52am
drmarkr wrote:
Is that engine/drivetrain going to handle that much weight?? I'd move to a Duramax....seriously. It would have to last way longer pulling that trailer than the...
Is that engine/drivetrain going to handle that much weight?? I'd move to a Duramax....seriously. It would have to last way longer pulling that trailer than the Titan.


Funny shit right there!!!!

That Titan will tow that thing like it's not even there. They'll tow over 9500 without being over rating.

Equalizer hitch, sway bar and brake controller and you'll be good to go!
DL
Profile picture for user DL
Posts
2627
Joined
8/20/2006
Location
Menifee, CA, USA
DL 4/9/2009 9:19am
4/9/2009 9:19am
Weight tow ratings don't meas didley. Bottom line is that you have a 1/2 ton truck and it is going to have a hard time with a trailer that size. Sure it will tow it but you'll wear it out pretty fast. It's one of those things that you'll have to learn for yourself. If you use the trailer a lot I bet you'll end up with a diesel 3/4 ton truck........ imo
lapper
Profile picture for user lapper
Posts
134
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Huntingtown, MD, USA
lapper 4/9/2009 11:10am
4/9/2009 11:10am
I pull a 22ft Toy Hauler (Nitrous Hyperlite) with my 1/2 ton Suburban. You should be OK with your Titan. My trailer is listed at 4,200 lbs dry. I'm in the mid-7,000s' loaded up (3 bikes, gear, fuel, pressure washer, generator and 100 gals. of water). Some old RV'ers told me as long as you stay below 80% of the Tow Vehicles rating you've got nothing to worry about.
You want both an equalizer, or load leveling, hitch and Anti-sway. They're not the same, although they can be all in one hitch set up. Spend the money and have a trailer shop set it up right for you. Your setup needs to be the proper rates and adjustments for your rig. Also, invest in one of the "proportional" electronic brake controllers. I got a Hayes, but there's several good ones out there. They adjust the amount of trailer braking based on inertia levels. Well worth the money.
A friend of mine pulled a 28' All American @ about 9,500 lbs. with his Titan...once. Overheating the rear differential seem to be the weakest link on that truck. Watch your temps on hard pulls.
Cygnus
Profile picture for user Cygnus
Posts
14845
Joined
8/15/2006
Location
Hanover, CO, USA
Cygnus 4/9/2009 11:18am
4/9/2009 11:18am
Get the load levelers and sway bar. Or you could just go buy a dually and you won't that crap.
Sledneck
Profile picture for user Sledneck
Posts
1201
Joined
1/23/2009
Location
Steamboat Springs, CO, USA
Sledneck 4/9/2009 11:22am
4/9/2009 11:22am
drmarkr wrote:
Is that engine/drivetrain going to handle that much weight?? I'd move to a Duramax....seriously. It would have to last way longer pulling that trailer than the...
Is that engine/drivetrain going to handle that much weight?? I'd move to a Duramax....seriously. It would have to last way longer pulling that trailer than the Titan.


Titan will pull it, barely. If you are mostly low elevation, and flat ground, you'll be OK but I would invest the 250 bucks for a Draw-Tite, Reese, Husky or similar 10,000 lb Weight Distributing Hitch with a sway control and adjust it accordingly.

You dont need to be level, I like a bit of rear end sag.

I run a similar 12,000 lb setup with a 14,000 GTW enclosed and can tow it at 90 MPH in a cross wind with a 3/4 ton crew cab.

Invest the 100 bucks for a Tekonsha Prodigy brake controller too.
Set the boost to 1 or 2 and the gain to how much braking you need.

The Titan or anything in that range is way low on power here, in fact, nothing is worth a shit at 10,000 feet and a 25-30% grade(yah that steep) around 10 MPH switchbacks.

Sledneck
Profile picture for user Sledneck
Posts
1201
Joined
1/23/2009
Location
Steamboat Springs, CO, USA
Sledneck 4/9/2009 11:25am
4/9/2009 11:25am
drmarkr wrote:
Is that engine/drivetrain going to handle that much weight?? I'd move to a Duramax....seriously. It would have to last way longer pulling that trailer than the...
Is that engine/drivetrain going to handle that much weight?? I'd move to a Duramax....seriously. It would have to last way longer pulling that trailer than the Titan.


Steve47 wrote:
Funny shit right there!!!! That Titan will tow that thing like it's not even there. They'll tow over 9500 without being over rating. Equalizer hitch, sway...
Funny shit right there!!!!

That Titan will tow that thing like it's not even there. They'll tow over 9500 without being over rating.

Equalizer hitch, sway bar and brake controller and you'll be good to go!
LMAO, yah, they will tow 20,000 lbs too. Good luck stopping, and even better luck in the wind.

You might need 4 wheel low to climb a grade too. I use 4 wheel low with a similar trailer to get up some grades here and a D-maxes 1st gear is damn near a granny gear.

Huckster
Profile picture for user Huckster
Posts
2592
Joined
8/15/2006
Location
Woodstock, NY, USA
Huckster 4/9/2009 12:04pm
4/9/2009 12:04pm
Hey pitbike502 what shop in syracuse do you work at? I am going to be out there on business next week and have some free time. I will stop in and check out your shop.
pitbike502
Profile picture for user pitbike502
Posts
4509
Joined
12/26/2007
Location
Syracuse, NY, USA
pitbike502 4/9/2009 1:21pm
4/9/2009 1:21pm
Huckster wrote:
Hey pitbike502 what shop in syracuse do you work at? I am going to be out there on business next week and have some free time...
Hey pitbike502 what shop in syracuse do you work at? I am going to be out there on business next week and have some free time. I will stop in and check out your shop.
sportmann honda, i have the broken collarbone behind the counter Cool

Post a reply to: hauler/trailer question