mx vs atv all out

4/3/2018 8:13am
billyp330 wrote:
I havn't gotten a chance to play it a lot, but the little I have played I'm very disappointed. To me it doesn't "feel" like a...
I havn't gotten a chance to play it a lot, but the little I have played I'm very disappointed. To me it doesn't "feel" like a mx bike at all. Cornering is weird, and air physics can be good at times, but other times is just wants to get stuck in weird positions. Maybe I just need more time to get used to it, but again so far not good at all. Lots of weird game glitches as well such as race starts while I'm stuck looking at the podium, audio seems to cut out at times, I go flying off the track sometimes when AI bumps me in corner, etc. I havn't had any lag issues thus far however (I'm on PC). I will continue to play it and hope that my opinion of the game changes, but as of now the game reminds me of the worst parts of Alive and Reflex (clutch turbo and inconsistent speed of bike making some jumps really easy one time, and impossible the next like Alive and funky cornering, glitchy air physics sometimes like Reflex). Supercross is so much better IMO.
chaseodc wrote:
Took me a solid week to not feel exactly like you. I am really enjoying it now!
billyp330 wrote:
Sounds like I just need to give it more time then. When my bro can come over and we can play some split screen maybe then...
Sounds like I just need to give it more time then. When my bro can come over and we can play some split screen maybe then ill change my mind on it. I do only have like an hr or so on game right now so not much.
Yeah I'd give it some more play time to me it has the best feel of any game yet but need to get used to it once you do its great. I just hope they get the frame rate issue fixed it can drive you nuts.
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4/3/2018 8:24am
I have one major issue with this game and hopefully they will fix it. I hate the barrel roll whips and front flip physics.
I just want to race. I don't want to be upside down like an arcade game. Maybe they can come out with a different chassis that is tighter and let us have the option to pick like the last game. If you want to do flip whips you can pick the original chassis.
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4/3/2018 8:32am Edited Date/Time 4/3/2018 8:35am
Denn700 wrote:
I have one major issue with this game and hopefully they will fix it. I hate the barrel roll whips and front flip physics. I just...
I have one major issue with this game and hopefully they will fix it. I hate the barrel roll whips and front flip physics.
I just want to race. I don't want to be upside down like an arcade game. Maybe they can come out with a different chassis that is tighter and let us have the option to pick like the last game. If you want to do flip whips you can pick the original chassis.
you’re doing barrel rolls and front flips because that’s what you’re telling the sticks to do. don’t push them that hard and that far.

the bike only does what you make it do. it’s not like the bike does barrel rolls on its own. if you don’t like the way your bikes acting in the air, then you gotta change what you’re doing with the sticks in the air. chances are you’re playing it like you would previous games and it’s just not like that at all.

the movement of the sticks is much more subtle then other games. you have to adapt and learn the way the game is meant to be played!

i compare what you’re saying to the real life scenario as the following: my hinda keeps endoing in the air, i need to get a new bike and honda needs to change their front end, and the track owner needs to fix the jumps

when really the problem is the way you’re riding the bike becaus A class Eddy just scrubbed right by you on the same bike

see what i’m sayin? lol
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4/3/2018 8:44am Edited Date/Time 4/3/2018 8:58am
Hey Mav have you played All Out? Havent read your impressions yet unless I missed it.
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I honestly haven't played All Out all that much, probably less than an hour. I've been finishing up the last DLC of Assassin's Creed Origins. I...
I honestly haven't played All Out all that much, probably less than an hour. I've been finishing up the last DLC of Assassin's Creed Origins. I completed it so I'll be switching things up between Far Cry 5 and All Out now.

Seems like the opinions have been split down the middle from what I've read on here. The last true experience I have with the series is Alive. Played Supercross Encore for 15-20 minutes on PS Now and I decided not to buy it. All Out seems promising so I'm looking forward to put some time in to see what it's really like. I enjoyed both Reflex and Alive.
i'm like 30 hours into FC5 and have just barely liberated 1 of 3 areas completely... game is SO addicting. even more so than FC3 and i can't even begin to imagine how many hours i had on that one. FC5 is an amazing game. there is so much shit to do, seems like every NPC you run into gives you another thing to do. then throw in hunting and fishing...

as for All Out... i've fired it up twice. i know there's potential, but with such a close release date to FC5 it was always going to come second to me.

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4/3/2018 9:53am
All Out isn't ready to play on Xbox until a patch is released that fixes the frame rate drag. Been waiting before I play much more.
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4/3/2018 10:07am Edited Date/Time 4/3/2018 10:08am
OK so i did some tuning to the bike and got the camera distance i like, i have to say the game is fun once you get the hang of it. The sticks are very sensitive in the air so that takes some time to get use to. Its a cool game to kill some time and once i get better i'll do some online racing.
4/3/2018 10:15am
Hey there. Just going to chime in on this one subject only. Sit tight, we're just waiting on approval from Microsoft for the latest patch and that should fix the majority of problems y'all are experiencing. Their process is different and just takes a little bit longer to get through.
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4/3/2018 10:46am Edited Date/Time 4/3/2018 11:45am
4rings wrote:
Another issue with this pathetic game- what are the units? Label the fucking chart!!!


Game is so bad it's offensive.

seraphim wrote:
it doesn’t really matter what the units are suspension: right is stiff left is soft. find where you like it sprocket is gear ratio. left is...
it doesn’t really matter what the units are

suspension: right is stiff left is soft. find where you like it

sprocket is gear ratio. left is short right is long. just like all other moto games

clutch: you don’t like clutch boots?, all the way left turns it off!! (or very minimal)

tires: left is slick right is the most grab.

engine: left is more low end speed and all the way right is more high end speed

i’m telling you guys. play with the bike settings. every time i hear someone talk about “how weird the bike turns” i’m like...you have your bike setup like shit!

that’s what’s great about this game and so many people don’t realize it. you can make your bike feel many different ways. the devs are probably shaking their heads like damn, all the bugs got everyone so pissed off that they won’t even give the game the time it needs. there’s way more detail to the physics of this game then many people are realizing. also, if you are the guy that writes “got the game played it for a couple days and hated it” then you’re just showing that you didn’t really want to learn the game anyway and you dont even deserve to play it. go play encore. it’s not even about the game to me..i really don’t care that much. it’s just how people always need instant gratification nowadays and no one wants to work at figuring something out.
i get the game has bugs. that’s why i do freeride or ghost racing and there’s no lag at all. until they fix it. i’ll stop rambling now. the game is a hidden gem

so many people are going to end up loving this game. i really wish i knew how to upload my gameplay videos.
The PROBLEM is Rainbow didnt do a good job showing / demonstrating this. Look around at all the comments easily demonstrates how nobody knows this. Why? They were too busy showing off whips. This and there is zero helpful info. Looking at the tuning it shows a line bar and a number. This can easily be misunderstood, as is probably the majority of cases, to think that a higher number is better for all the stats. Maybe if they had your little snippets of info for each setting people would get it. I messed with the traction and that was it! Dumb on me for not trying out the other settings, so thanks for explaining it.
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4/3/2018 11:26am
I was tempted to give this game ago but the gameplay I watched along with the price tag I had second thoughts.
How can the series go backwards after reflex? The gameplay and graphics should be top bollocks by now.



4/3/2018 11:57am
seraphim wrote:
it doesn’t really matter what the units are suspension: right is stiff left is soft. find where you like it sprocket is gear ratio. left is...
it doesn’t really matter what the units are

suspension: right is stiff left is soft. find where you like it

sprocket is gear ratio. left is short right is long. just like all other moto games

clutch: you don’t like clutch boots?, all the way left turns it off!! (or very minimal)

tires: left is slick right is the most grab.

engine: left is more low end speed and all the way right is more high end speed

i’m telling you guys. play with the bike settings. every time i hear someone talk about “how weird the bike turns” i’m like...you have your bike setup like shit!

that’s what’s great about this game and so many people don’t realize it. you can make your bike feel many different ways. the devs are probably shaking their heads like damn, all the bugs got everyone so pissed off that they won’t even give the game the time it needs. there’s way more detail to the physics of this game then many people are realizing. also, if you are the guy that writes “got the game played it for a couple days and hated it” then you’re just showing that you didn’t really want to learn the game anyway and you dont even deserve to play it. go play encore. it’s not even about the game to me..i really don’t care that much. it’s just how people always need instant gratification nowadays and no one wants to work at figuring something out.
i get the game has bugs. that’s why i do freeride or ghost racing and there’s no lag at all. until they fix it. i’ll stop rambling now. the game is a hidden gem

so many people are going to end up loving this game. i really wish i knew how to upload my gameplay videos.
sdjeff wrote:
Man I totally agree. I have a few days on it now just learning the bike and it's such a fun/rewarding game. I love throwing my...
Man I totally agree. I have a few days on it now just learning the bike and it's such a fun/rewarding game. I love throwing my own style over everything.
https://youtu.be/vMtfY7RuVzY?start=345
That is the first video i've seen in a while that looks somewhat realistic. He's actually using his brakes and sliding into turns and all.

I might give this one a second chance once the xbox patch hits.
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4/3/2018 12:37pm
Hey there. Just going to chime in on this one subject only. Sit tight, we're just waiting on approval from Microsoft for the latest patch and...
Hey there. Just going to chime in on this one subject only. Sit tight, we're just waiting on approval from Microsoft for the latest patch and that should fix the majority of problems y'all are experiencing. Their process is different and just takes a little bit longer to get through.
Thanks for the update.
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4/3/2018 4:17pm
Looks like patch 1.03 is being combined into 1.04 for xbox. Twitter peeps complaining about the 16g 1.04 patch for PS not doing much. I feel like Im in the twilight zone and reliving last month with MES and patch madness. I've purchased two mx games and haven't played either online.
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4/3/2018 4:28pm Edited Date/Time 4/3/2018 4:31pm
I'm loving this game and the way it plays but the online really needs fixed. I've lost connection more times than laps completed online. The worst part is, you join a game, wait for the race to end, go to the minute warm up, and then I'm booted before the race starts. So much time wasted. Also, the track rotation needs to be random for non-hosted rooms. I've played Anaheim, San Diego, la, so many times and then I'm booted before any new tracks are reached. I know there's many more great tracks but the current way rotations are set are a problem. Again, I love the game, just some constructive feedback.
4/3/2018 6:59pm
The SX tracks are a work of art. The nats are hit or miss but actually really fun either way online with real guys. This game fuckin rocks.
4/3/2018 7:46pm
I’m still downloading the 1.04 update on ps4. My internet is slow did anyone get it yet and did it fix the lagging frame rate issues? I really like this game but the updates are always big and I spend way to much time updating. I hope it makes it better I only get so many gb of data on my internet before it slows and I’m using it all on updates. If it fixes it I’ll be a lot less annoyed.
4/3/2018 8:25pm
Ive been racing online for a few hours and it didnt lag once with sx or nats. Could just be luck idk
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4/3/2018 10:53pm
JohnnyMc wrote:
The PROBLEM is Rainbow didnt do a good job showing / demonstrating this. Look around at all the comments easily demonstrates how nobody knows this. Why...
The PROBLEM is Rainbow didnt do a good job showing / demonstrating this. Look around at all the comments easily demonstrates how nobody knows this. Why? They were too busy showing off whips. This and there is zero helpful info. Looking at the tuning it shows a line bar and a number. This can easily be misunderstood, as is probably the majority of cases, to think that a higher number is better for all the stats. Maybe if they had your little snippets of info for each setting people would get it. I messed with the traction and that was it! Dumb on me for not trying out the other settings, so thanks for explaining it.
yeah i mean at this point we all know the game was rushed for release. so a lot of details were missed including measurements for bike tuning but i do like how for example there’s not just two selections for gear ratio (high and low like in mesx). there’s a lot of options for bike tuning.

in terms of them not explaining this stuff to us, that’s where i disagree sort of. i mean it’s up to us to figure the game out. for some reason (im not referring to you) moto people need instant gratification with their games lol. lag issues and online issues is one thing but when it comes to the learning of the physics, it’s up to the gamer to learn how to play it. imo this game has the biggest skill gap in any moto game next to mx sim. it’s crazy how much i hated the motocross tracks for a while because of how the bike felt on the track in terms of speed and turning but once i learned the game and got pretty good and have a really good setup, all a sudden the track came to life. this game surprises me more and more. the fluidity of the bike and rider is so freakin good. i know everyone has their opinions but i just wish all these guys hating the game could experience what i am lol

i think the devs we’re trying to grab new players before the release. they already knew the hardcore moto fans were going to buy it

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4/4/2018 6:52am
How do I change my bike color?
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Hey there. Just going to chime in on this one subject only. Sit tight, we're just waiting on approval from Microsoft for the latest patch and...
Hey there. Just going to chime in on this one subject only. Sit tight, we're just waiting on approval from Microsoft for the latest patch and that should fix the majority of problems y'all are experiencing. Their process is different and just takes a little bit longer to get through.
Redneck, have you guys heard any new news from Microsoft today on the upcoming Xbox patch?
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WW444 wrote:
How do I change my bike color?
Select Graphic Kit
Choose one you like
Go on select style and click customise
The 3rd icon you'll see has a side shroud on it
Click customise
Play with the colors until you like what you see
Click accept and you're done
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4/4/2018 7:15am
Hey there. Just going to chime in on this one subject only. Sit tight, we're just waiting on approval from Microsoft for the latest patch and...
Hey there. Just going to chime in on this one subject only. Sit tight, we're just waiting on approval from Microsoft for the latest patch and that should fix the majority of problems y'all are experiencing. Their process is different and just takes a little bit longer to get through.
twotwosix wrote:
Redneck, have you guys heard any new news from Microsoft today on the upcoming Xbox patch?
I might be wrong, but i'm pretty sure that he made an account just to make that one post. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't respond. Hopefully he does though.
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4/4/2018 7:32am
#freethephotomodecamera
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4/4/2018 8:02am
Hey there. Just going to chime in on this one subject only. Sit tight, we're just waiting on approval from Microsoft for the latest patch and...
Hey there. Just going to chime in on this one subject only. Sit tight, we're just waiting on approval from Microsoft for the latest patch and that should fix the majority of problems y'all are experiencing. Their process is different and just takes a little bit longer to get through.
twotwosix wrote:
Redneck, have you guys heard any new news from Microsoft today on the upcoming Xbox patch?
Donovan759 wrote:
I might be wrong, but i'm pretty sure that he made an account just to make that one post. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't...
I might be wrong, but i'm pretty sure that he made an account just to make that one post. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't respond. Hopefully he does though.
It would be nice if they sparked up the old Nordic forum. If nothing else, just to get to that 500th page. Stopping on pg 499 just felt wrong haha
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4/4/2018 8:03am
After playing a little more last night, I have to give credit where credit is due.

The suspension mechanism and how to bike reacts to the ground is immensely better than "the other game". One thing thats always bothered me about the MXGP and MES games are the board-stiff, short flat-track look that ALL bikes games portray. The bikes literally look like they are short with no action in the swingarm. I've learned over time to block it out.

Tons of new gear- I was blown away they even had the Shift GI Fro

I think we've all forgotten how rough MX vs ATV Supercross was. Back end would always slide out on berms. This game is a huge step in the right direction for that. Can only hope there's (free) DLC to add more National and maybe even Arenacross tracks.

4/4/2018 9:03am
twotwosix wrote:
Redneck, have you guys heard any new news from Microsoft today on the upcoming Xbox patch?
Donovan759 wrote:
I might be wrong, but i'm pretty sure that he made an account just to make that one post. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't...
I might be wrong, but i'm pretty sure that he made an account just to make that one post. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't respond. Hopefully he does though.
DELTAmx19 wrote:
It would be nice if they sparked up the old Nordic forum. If nothing else, just to get to that 500th page. Stopping on pg 499...
It would be nice if they sparked up the old Nordic forum. If nothing else, just to get to that 500th page. Stopping on pg 499 just felt wrong haha
I miss the forum they closed it down when all out was announced. Wish they'd open it back up I'm sure it's a pain for them to have so many places to manage. They are good at answering messages through Facebook but with the forum they could answer something once and we all got the answer I'm sure now they answer the same questions over and over. I still don't get why so many Hate this game I think it's the best yet ,if you don't like it give it time your used to the stiff MES game like I was.
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4/4/2018 1:18pm
Donovan759 wrote:
I might be wrong, but i'm pretty sure that he made an account just to make that one post. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't...
I might be wrong, but i'm pretty sure that he made an account just to make that one post. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't respond. Hopefully he does though.
Correct. Redneck is OG MXvxATV. He goes way back.
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4/4/2018 1:20pm
Donovan759 wrote:
I might be wrong, but i'm pretty sure that he made an account just to make that one post. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't...
I might be wrong, but i'm pretty sure that he made an account just to make that one post. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't respond. Hopefully he does though.
twotwosix wrote:
Correct. Redneck is OG MXvxATV. He goes way back.
Nice. I didn't know that. It was cool that he cared to make an account just to directly update the vital community.
4/4/2018 2:42pm
How are you guys carrying momentum through corners? No matter what, I'm bogging. Ton of clutch work and all
4/4/2018 2:46pm
How are you guys carrying momentum through corners? No matter what, I'm bogging. Ton of clutch work and all
Is your bike upgraded? Manual or auto shifting? The auto shifting makes it feel like a slug last time I used it. Manual shifting is much better and a must if you wanna be fast.
4/4/2018 2:52pm
Is your bike upgraded? Manual or auto shifting? The auto shifting makes it feel like a slug last time I used it. Manual shifting is much...
Is your bike upgraded? Manual or auto shifting? The auto shifting makes it feel like a slug last time I used it. Manual shifting is much better and a must if you wanna be fast.
Yea its upgraded, not full motor (ran out of credits). Currently auto shift, I raced with manual, couldnt get the hang of it in a race situation. I'll have to go back to it.

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