do you think a woman will ever qualify for a national?

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i already know i'm going to catch hell for this, but let me start by saying i love watching the WMA at the nationals, because it's some of the best racing of the day. that said, however, i feel there is no way fiolek, patterson, gieger and company could ever qualify for a national. i know a few women have tried (unsuccessfully), and that skill levels and equipment have imporoved, but i just got done looking at the lap times from top 5 at whitney (thanks, vurbmoto.com), and patterson had the best for women's expert class at 2.27.328. certainly not bad, i'm sure, but when i saw the best lap in the 50cc stock 7-8 year old class posted by jordan bailey was 2.27.879, it made me think, if the fastest woman at whitney has a lap time comparable to the best 50 rider (even if he is a phenom), there's just no shot at her making a national. btw, best times of the day by the pros were in the 2.11's. flame on...
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fcr 3/10/2009 9:21am
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No, they don't have the strength.
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already has happened...try to keep up.

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MOTOCOACH 3/10/2009 9:22am
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lol, sorry guys, i'm so new i didn't know this road was travelled. please feel free to let it die...
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fcr 3/10/2009 9:22am
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BobbyM wrote:
already has happened...try to keep up.
Really?
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MOTOCOACH 3/10/2009 9:22am
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who bobby, sue fish?
SlowOldGuy 3/10/2009 9:24am
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Jordan Bailey and the 50 class don't run about a third of the track. They don't go up the big hill.

That being said, I don't think any of the women are even close to the speed of the outdoor nationals qualifiers
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Racer92 3/10/2009 9:25am
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MOTOCOACH wrote:
lol, sorry guys, i'm so new i didn't know this road was travelled. please feel free to let it die...
We're just BSing ya coach, but this has been cussed & discussed lots of times.

I think the day is coming, there are some crazy fast girls coming thru the system and its only a matter of time.
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fcr 3/10/2009 9:26am
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Forgot about her. But at todays level i still think that it would be nearly impossible if it is a full line up.
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oh, thanks SOG--didn't think about that. i'm really not trying to rip on the women, i think theyre great for the sport, but like i said, just seeing those times made me think.

also, i knew sue fish tried to qualify, but didn't think she made it...
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They oughta have an automatic spot open for female riders in bikinis.
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jtomasik wrote:
They oughta have an automatic spot open for female riders in bikinis.
there is, in my motorhome
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Rob Beams said that ashley was going to try this year on dmxs.
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mxdad 3/10/2009 10:16am
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Mercedes Terrell has already qualified and won. Perect season. Just saying.
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lumpy790 3/10/2009 10:18am
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This would make for some great TV coverage. I sponsor Penni Cyrus and she is doing the wma pro nationals and womens pro worcs races. She just won a worcs race.
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peelout719 wrote:
there is, in my motorhome
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Alex 3/10/2009 10:37am
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Its different for each track but Two examples from last season were Bulgaria (hardpack) and Holland (sand) In Bulgaria the fastest lap of the second race was Pourcell on 1.55 whilst fastest female was Livia Lancelot on 2.16 and Ashleys Fioleks fastest time was a 2.22.

In holland Marc posted a 2.10 lap time whilst Stephi laier was a 2.36 and Ashley on a 2.41.

Hardpack there was a 21 second difference and in sand a 26 second difference. thats not even in close unfortunateley.

The crucial margin is obviously that between the final qualifier in the mens, and the pole sitter in the womens and results on hardpack are considerably more encouraging. In Bulgaria Larissa Papenmier on 2.01 was 10 seconds off the final mens qualifier at 1.51 whereas in Holland the difference between final qualifier Ray Rowson on a 2.09 and Larrissa on a 2.29 was clearly double.

10 seconds sounds doable but its important to note that 7 men sat on a 1.51 lap time in bulgaria so the margins are very tight. Its unlikeley but who knows.
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Ashley Fiolek will make the main at an AMA Pro National Outdoor event.
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jtomasik wrote:
They oughta have an automatic spot open for female riders in bikinis.
peelout719 wrote:
there is, in my motorhome
Do you have a brass support beam installed?
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jtomasik wrote:
They oughta have an automatic spot open for female riders in bikinis.
peelout719 wrote:
there is, in my motorhome
crowe176 wrote:
Do you have a brass support beam installed?
I'll be bringing my pockets stuffed with $1 bills...
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Racer92 wrote:
[img]http://www.meikathon.net/roflmao/facepalm4.jpg[/img]
Look at Picard's face...Laughing
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Racer92 wrote:
[img]http://www.meikathon.net/roflmao/facepalm4.jpg[/img]
Big Lenbroski wrote:
Look at Picard's face...Laughing
He's droppin' a deuce !
motoxistence 3/10/2009 12:20pm
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As someone said.. the 50s run a shortened version of the track.

I stop-watched Fiolek last summer at Washougal, and she had lap times were just outside the top ten men in the consolation race.
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they should have their own races!
you don't see female players mixing it up in the men's NBA league! or soccer or tennis or football or any other physical sport... let them have their own races... also things like sending some chicks to the MXoN on an IndoChina or PuertoRican Team makes our sport look unprofessional imo! You also don't see women on a men's team at the Olympics. screw that shit!
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I'm all for it, but I want them to qualify through the locals like the other pros do. If they get the local pro experience and have the speed to win at that level....I'm for it.
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teggers wrote:
I'm all for it, but I want them to qualify through the locals like the other pros do. If they get the local pro experience and...
I'm all for it, but I want them to qualify through the locals like the other pros do. If they get the local pro experience and have the speed to win at that level....I'm for it.
Of course they have to qualify as all others do...I don't they would just get a free pass to line up.
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Slow ~ Pro wrote:
Of course they have to qualify as all others do...I don't they would just get a free pass to line up.
Remember the Annika Sorenstam thing?
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KAWboy14 3/10/2009 5:33pm
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if a black guy can then women wont be far behind?

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