Supercross, again???

JM485 wrote:

I don't care what anyone says, that dude just hit it out of the park with that article. I'm sick of the corporate BS everyone seems...

I don't care what anyone says, that dude just hit it out of the park with that article. I'm sick of the corporate BS everyone seems to eat up in their desperate hopes of "growing the sport". I hate to break it to you but "growing the sport" doesn't do crap for me when I'm out at the track in 100+ degree weather or stuck down in a rocky nightmare cursing life, only to miraculously find a way through and push myself to a new limit. That's what riding is about, not rattling off sponsors, promo hoes, and media training. Riding is about the dude who shows up in his pickup to do battle on the weekend after working all week and barely getting his bike together in time to go race, not multi million dollar rigs parked around a stadium. And that's what he's getting at, the soul of riding is about being who you want to be and riding how you want to ride, not changing who you are just to meet others expectations.

GeorgiePorgie wrote:

Jealous much? How does million dollar rigs affect you when you have the opportunity to show up in a pick up truck? Corporate this. Corporate that...

Jealous much? How does million dollar rigs affect you when you have the opportunity to show up in a pick up truck?

Corporate this. Corporate that. Blah blah. I fell into the same trap once like you are in now. The corporate or CEO doesnt affect YOU at all. You’re being led to beleive it does. But it doesnt. YOU ONLY AFFECT YOURSELF.

SOme people aspire to acquire million dollar rigs and race. Others aspire to race out of a back of a pickup truck a focus on other things in life. But that’s fine. Quit blaming corporate this corporate that. At the end of the day it’s in yourself. That’s it. Do what you want to do and quit bastardizing those in million dollar rigs That earned it.

JM485 wrote:

I don't care what anyone says, that dude just hit it out of the park with that article. I'm sick of the corporate BS everyone seems...

I don't care what anyone says, that dude just hit it out of the park with that article. I'm sick of the corporate BS everyone seems to eat up in their desperate hopes of "growing the sport". I hate to break it to you but "growing the sport" doesn't do crap for me when I'm out at the track in 100+ degree weather or stuck down in a rocky nightmare cursing life, only to miraculously find a way through and push myself to a new limit. That's what riding is about, not rattling off sponsors, promo hoes, and media training. Riding is about the dude who shows up in his pickup to do battle on the weekend after working all week and barely getting his bike together in time to go race, not multi million dollar rigs parked around a stadium. And that's what he's getting at, the soul of riding is about being who you want to be and riding how you want to ride, not changing who you are just to meet others expectations.

GeorgiePorgie wrote:

Jealous much? How does million dollar rigs affect you when you have the opportunity to show up in a pick up truck? Corporate this. Corporate that...

Jealous much? How does million dollar rigs affect you when you have the opportunity to show up in a pick up truck?

Corporate this. Corporate that. Blah blah. I fell into the same trap once like you are in now. The corporate or CEO doesnt affect YOU at all. You’re being led to beleive it does. But it doesnt. YOU ONLY AFFECT YOURSELF.

SOme people aspire to acquire million dollar rigs and race. Others aspire to race out of a back of a pickup truck a focus on other things in life. But that’s fine. Quit blaming corporate this corporate that. At the end of the day it’s in yourself. That’s it. Do what you want to do and quit bastardizing those in million dollar rigs That earned it.

JM485 wrote:

I'm not saying the corporate or CEO effects me in any way directly, lots of those guys worked hard to get there and I have no...

I'm not saying the corporate or CEO effects me in any way directly, lots of those guys worked hard to get there and I have no issue with it, I don't know where you got that I hate them all? I more hate the style they bring. My point was the soul of riding, to me, isn't found in $1m+ rigs and setups, it's found in the guys who work hard each week to go ride and make it happen. I'm thinking you missed my entire point, it wasn't jealously of guys and teams with money, it was more about the passion that seems to be lost when you have to conform to the mold sponsors/teams expect of you. I'm not even going so far as to say it's not necessary, I'm just making a point that in my opinion, and the opinion of the article writer, that's not what riding is all about and I personally don't like it.

BTW, I'm a firm believer in exactly what you said, only you effect yourself. Please don't confuse me with some others in my generation who sit back an complain about why they have nothing as they do absolutely nothing to improve their situation. This thread is about corporatism/selling out of moto, nothing more.

NorCal 50+ wrote:

I dug it- the mx media needs more of this kind of spirit. Bernardo has cred, he's been around a looooong time. I don't know if...

I dug it- the mx media needs more of this kind of spirit. Bernardo has cred, he's been around a looooong time.
I don't know if we need racers slinging beers and grabbing trophy girls though. These days you are talking about a 16-19 year old a lot of times, or a guy in his early 20s who has never done anything but pound laps all his life-- Not a grown man that is fond of weed and pit bunnies like the men of the 70s who happened to fall into a pro career in the sport. The 70s guys weren't trained from age 3 by a rabid moto dad with a jersey full of corporate sponsors to represent before he even becomes a teenager.
The incredible grind of becoming a top racer these days is not going to produce a colorful, multi-dimensional person, it's going to create a moto-robot who can spew out a list of sponsors but isn't going to have much personality. There are exceptions- Durham is a guy who comes to mind, but he can't seem to get many sponsors these days.
Sometimes just following Supercross seems like a grind (I will always love it)- because the riders act like it's a grind. There is nothing inspiring about Tomac's humorless talk of "working hard and coming back next week" and thanking his sponsors, which is right up there with watching paint dry. Same with Dungey and Villopoto. When Tomac lightens up like he does in the Racer X post-race vids, he's more fun to watch.
My last comments is the "team look" had destroyed he individualism. I can hardly tell the PC or Geico guys apart on the track. They start to seem like interchangeable moto robots with just the names on the jersey different.

chuck317 wrote:

folks would freak and jump off a bridge.

GeorgiePorgie wrote:

I think they wound just protest at a historical bridge site. Loot the gift shop. Burn it down. Then leave. And the 4 that get arrested...

I think they wound just protest at a historical bridge site. Loot the gift shop. Burn it down. Then leave. And the 4 that get arrested will cry discrimination in the name of being politically correct.