Ti Nitride Coatings

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Can anyone tell me the thickness to color ratio?

I wanted to get blue lowers & the shop said its usually the first color to show wear.



Anyone ever have luck with blue ?
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DTR830 wrote:
Can anyone tell me the thickness to color ratio? I wanted to get blue lowers & the shop said its usually the first color to show...
Can anyone tell me the thickness to color ratio?

I wanted to get blue lowers & the shop said its usually the first color to show wear.



Anyone ever have luck with blue ?
Dlc is the best, wear , price etc. Old saying goes ya wanna play ya gonna pay. Good stuff isn't cheap. I would call around, compare prices and turn around time. Some parts can't be coated if they are damaged.
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DTR830 wrote:
Can anyone tell me the thickness to color ratio? I wanted to get blue lowers & the shop said its usually the first color to show...
Can anyone tell me the thickness to color ratio?

I wanted to get blue lowers & the shop said its usually the first color to show wear.



Anyone ever have luck with blue ?
mxb2 wrote:
Dlc is the best, wear , price etc. Old saying goes ya wanna play ya gonna pay. Good stuff isn't cheap. I would call around, compare...
Dlc is the best, wear , price etc. Old saying goes ya wanna play ya gonna pay. Good stuff isn't cheap. I would call around, compare prices and turn around time. Some parts can't be coated if they are damaged.
Ktm forks only have 6h on them.

I know DLC is best however I like the flash of the ti nitride colors more.

fashion over function ha
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DTR830 wrote:
Can anyone tell me the thickness to color ratio? I wanted to get blue lowers & the shop said its usually the first color to show...
Can anyone tell me the thickness to color ratio?

I wanted to get blue lowers & the shop said its usually the first color to show wear.



Anyone ever have luck with blue ?
mxb2 wrote:
Dlc is the best, wear , price etc. Old saying goes ya wanna play ya gonna pay. Good stuff isn't cheap. I would call around, compare...
Dlc is the best, wear , price etc. Old saying goes ya wanna play ya gonna pay. Good stuff isn't cheap. I would call around, compare prices and turn around time. Some parts can't be coated if they are damaged.
DTR830 wrote:
Ktm forks only have 6h on them. I know DLC is best however I like the flash of the ti nitride colors more. fashion over function...
Ktm forks only have 6h on them.

I know DLC is best however I like the flash of the ti nitride colors more.

fashion over function ha
Yea, I understood what you wanted. That being said it's more $$ and wears faster. Pay to play.
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mxb2 wrote:
Dlc is the best, wear , price etc. Old saying goes ya wanna play ya gonna pay. Good stuff isn't cheap. I would call around, compare...
Dlc is the best, wear , price etc. Old saying goes ya wanna play ya gonna pay. Good stuff isn't cheap. I would call around, compare prices and turn around time. Some parts can't be coated if they are damaged.
DTR830 wrote:
Ktm forks only have 6h on them. I know DLC is best however I like the flash of the ti nitride colors more. fashion over function...
Ktm forks only have 6h on them.

I know DLC is best however I like the flash of the ti nitride colors more.

fashion over function ha
mxb2 wrote:
Yea, I understood what you wanted. That being said it's more $$ and wears faster. Pay to play.
Ti is 500

dlc is coming back 600 At 2 different shops

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DTR830 wrote:
Ktm forks only have 6h on them. I know DLC is best however I like the flash of the ti nitride colors more. fashion over function...
Ktm forks only have 6h on them.

I know DLC is best however I like the flash of the ti nitride colors more.

fashion over function ha
mxb2 wrote:
Yea, I understood what you wanted. That being said it's more $$ and wears faster. Pay to play.
DTR830 wrote:
Ti is 500

dlc is coming back 600 At 2 different shops
I think the green,blue at pro circuit is 1k. Not cheap, but looks sick.
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Why don’t you do the green chameleon stuff? I bet your suspension guy has had great luck with it....
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Why don’t you do the green chameleon stuff? I bet your suspension guy has had great luck with it....
That's what Jeremy(evo) woukd like me to do. He's warned me that blue wears to gold quicker then other colors.

Idno about green
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Just buy Cone Valves sissy.
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premiersportsoutlet wrote:
Mine is like a purple/blue color and has proven to be very durable. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/10/08/218975/s1200_image.jpg[/img]
Mine is like a purple/blue color and has proven to be very durable.


How old/hours are they? Do seem to be holding up
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BobPA wrote:
Just buy Cone Valves sissy.
I don't have Bob money!!!


Coating $500 for forks I like
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I found Tin for 300 and DLC for 350. usually dlc is the more expensive coating and not as many places offer it..
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I found a UK company that did Tin for around 300 and DLC for 350 too.

Too bad that i forgot who it was and i haven't found the site again. I'm also thinking about coating my CV fork legs like Digger did his.
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jaredkeller96 wrote:
I found Tin for 300 and DLC for 350. usually dlc is the more expensive coating and not as many places offer it..
WHERE.
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Motofinne wrote:
I found a UK company that did Tin for around 300 and DLC for 350 too. Too bad that i forgot who it was and i...
I found a UK company that did Tin for around 300 and DLC for 350 too.

Too bad that i forgot who it was and i haven't found the site again. I'm also thinking about coating my CV fork legs like Digger did his.
Race connections are one of the cheapest in the uk,run by ex amca champ ben saunders,here's a link to the ebay shop....

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/RACE-CONNECTIONS?_trksid=p2047675.l2563

Other company's that offer it in england are RSS....G FORCE.....K TECH......SHOCK TECH.....FTR......BROOK.....or TILLET.....

SUSPENSION.



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I hear the black and gold are the hardest wearing.
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Motofinne wrote:
I found a UK company that did Tin for around 300 and DLC for 350 too. Too bad that i forgot who it was and i...
I found a UK company that did Tin for around 300 and DLC for 350 too.

Too bad that i forgot who it was and i haven't found the site again. I'm also thinking about coating my CV fork legs like Digger did his.
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Race connections are one of the cheapest in the uk,run by ex amca champ ben saunders,here's a link to the ebay shop.... http://stores.ebay.co.uk/RACE-CONNECTIONS?_trksid=p2047675.l2563 Other company's that...
Race connections are one of the cheapest in the uk,run by ex amca champ ben saunders,here's a link to the ebay shop....

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/RACE-CONNECTIONS?_trksid=p2047675.l2563

Other company's that offer it in england are RSS....G FORCE.....K TECH......SHOCK TECH.....FTR......BROOK.....or TILLET.....

SUSPENSION.



Thanks! It was Shock Tech that i was looking at a few months ago!
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10/9/2017 6:57am Edited Date/Time 10/9/2017 7:02am
None of the supension companies that offer this service do it in house , its all subcontracted to coating companies that work within the Motorsport Industry in the UK. Sandwell & Co , and Oerlikon Balzer are 2 companies that deal with high level coatings for Motorsports, but they will only do B2B work, and generally dont deal with the public, so while there are a few places that actually do it , all the places offering the service will send it to the same few places. The equipment and knowledge required to do this type of work is beyond any suspension company, even the OEM stuff will be subbed out.

Thickness typically 0.004 to 0.005mm

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Motofinne wrote:
I found a UK company that did Tin for around 300 and DLC for 350 too. Too bad that i forgot who it was and i...
I found a UK company that did Tin for around 300 and DLC for 350 too.

Too bad that i forgot who it was and i haven't found the site again. I'm also thinking about coating my CV fork legs like Digger did his.
smezmx wrote:
Race connections are one of the cheapest in the uk,run by ex amca champ ben saunders,here's a link to the ebay shop.... http://stores.ebay.co.uk/RACE-CONNECTIONS?_trksid=p2047675.l2563 Other company's that...
Race connections are one of the cheapest in the uk,run by ex amca champ ben saunders,here's a link to the ebay shop....

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/RACE-CONNECTIONS?_trksid=p2047675.l2563

Other company's that offer it in england are RSS....G FORCE.....K TECH......SHOCK TECH.....FTR......BROOK.....or TILLET.....

SUSPENSION.



Motofinne wrote:
Thanks! It was Shock Tech that i was looking at a few months ago!
Your welcome Smile
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Really enjoyed my blue Ti Nitride lowers.

Yea, DLC coatings (the black ones) are the best in terms of performance. Although the Ti-Nit performed awesome and they didnt show no signs of wear. I was riding the sands of the Carolina's too for comparison.



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I had turquoise TiNi lowers on my A kit forks and shock shaft. It definitely wears pretty quick and is the most expensive. I would pull the dust seals off and clean/lube the seal regularly, especially after riding in sand or mud. The turquoise will wear faster than the gold TiNi. And black DLC will last forever. Gotta pony up the big bucks to have the really trick turquoise coatings that wears faster than the others.
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Motofinne wrote:
I found a UK company that did Tin for around 300 and DLC for 350 too. Too bad that i forgot who it was and i...
I found a UK company that did Tin for around 300 and DLC for 350 too.

Too bad that i forgot who it was and i haven't found the site again. I'm also thinking about coating my CV fork legs like Digger did his.
Tillitsuspension??
eric513anderson 10/9/2017 9:17am
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I've looked into have Enzo do Kashima & dlc coating on my suspension. $$$. Lots of money for looks, sure it helps with wear & to reduce friction but I doubt it's something an average rider like me would benefit from. They do look killer tho!
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DTR830 wrote:
That's what Jeremy(evo) woukd like me to do. He's warned me that blue wears to gold quicker then other colors.

Idno about green
The blue does wear faster than the torquise color. DLC holds up the best but his TiN guy is very good. Or just get cone valves and when you decide you should of got a 450 you can just take them with you to your next bike....
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DTR830 wrote:
That's what Jeremy(evo) woukd like me to do. He's warned me that blue wears to gold quicker then other colors.

Idno about green
aedwards07 wrote:
The blue does wear faster than the torquise color. DLC holds up the best but his TiN guy is very good. Or just get cone valves...
The blue does wear faster than the torquise color. DLC holds up the best but his TiN guy is very good. Or just get cone valves and when you decide you should of got a 450 you can just take them with you to your next bike....
Brutal ha... have you rode a newer 350? Nothing like the old ones.

I barely race & this bike is quickly becoming a perfect bike for me
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jaredkeller96 wrote:
I found Tin for 300 and DLC for 350. usually dlc is the more expensive coating and not as many places offer it..
m.hardesty16 wrote:
WHERE.
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Use thomasnet to find a supplier near you. It’s basically an Angie’s list for coatings and what not for industrial companies. Tool and die, machining etc, I just happened to find one close to me at a reasonable price. The dlc place is used by FC and Jgr in NC,
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There’s a dlc place 20 mins from me but they won’t touch forks as it’s a hit and miss with their process sticking to the chrome.
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jaredkeller96 wrote:
I found Tin for 300 and DLC for 350. usually dlc is the more expensive coating and not as many places offer it..
m.hardesty16 wrote:
WHERE.
Naanak wrote:
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motocross-Fork-Coating-Black-Titanium-Nitride…

https://www.shocktech.co.uk/suspension-motocross/motocross-suspension-u…
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got my lowers sent out yesterday. was deciding on blue but it was a 3 week turnaround. had a rose gold option and dlc..went with dlc as I am more confident with the final product and finish..300 for Dlc..quick search on thomasnet will find a supplier near you..carbon raptor does JGR and Fc..located in NC 350 for DLC there..but I went with a different supplier.. I get that suspension shops make money as thats their business..but if you have the means and resources to remove lugs and properly rebuild suspension then going direct to a supplier is the best option..and fastest.and yes these places will take single orders wether it be a single cam or a valve..

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