Jmart going backwards!

motokiwi 7/22/2017 11:45pm
7/22/2017 11:45pm
Ramrod wrote:
I think the Honda is a good bike but it just seems that the Yamaha motor is better than the rest. Jmart isn't doing bad but...
I think the Honda is a good bike but it just seems that the Yamaha motor is better than the rest.

Jmart isn't doing bad but it's not like his last few years. He'll be alright.
People forget that the yzf 250 is basically a cheater bike. Especially a few years ago while the other brands were playing catch up.


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kiwifan 7/23/2017 12:34am
7/23/2017 12:34am
kiwifan wrote:
he already has a 450 rider for 2018
GuyB wrote:
You don't say...
Yeah clearly PhilG missed the memo
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kiwifan 7/23/2017 12:35am
7/23/2017 12:35am
kiwifan wrote:
oh sorry I missed the part where you compared a factory Yamaha to a Factory Geico Honda, how the hell do you know its underpowered?? oh...
oh sorry I missed the part where you compared a factory Yamaha to a Factory Geico Honda, how the hell do you know its underpowered?? oh you think a stock bike is underpowered (not that the Honda isnt by much, it certainly isnt the slowest stock 250, nor is the Yamaha the most HP) then it means the factory bike is? Surely you are not that naive???
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It's amazing on some of the stuff I read on these dirt bike forums & the stuff members actually believe. I find it hard to believe...
It's amazing on some of the stuff I read on these dirt bike forums & the stuff members actually believe. I find it hard to believe that someone thinks what you & I can buy at the showroom floor is even remotely close to what the AMA pros are running. Besides the chassis everything else is pretty much modified to the riders preference with bike set up on suspension & how the engine power is delivered through the rpm range.
At that level they're all making good power.
yup.... Smile
Underground 7/23/2017 2:36am
7/23/2017 2:36am
mx rider 722 wrote:
No disrespect to Jeremy Martin but is his career going backwards? Rewind to 2015 his beating Cooper Webb & Marvin Musquin (outdoors) for a back to...
No disrespect to Jeremy Martin but is his career going backwards? Rewind to 2015 his beating Cooper Webb & Marvin Musquin (outdoors) for a back to back title.
Both Webb & Marv are now top riders in the premier 450 class while Jmart is still fighting hard for podiums in a class where he was a 2 time champion!

Is it best he reboots his career by going 450? I'm thinking try something new cos his going backwards in the class.... and I guess his sx results don't help... Thoughts?
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The Honda is under powered and yes, maybe he just gelled with the Yamaha chassy better....otherwise, what else could it be? He is over his sickenss...
The Honda is under powered and yes, maybe he just gelled with the Yamaha chassy better....otherwise, what else could it be? He is over his sickenss right?



How do you explain these?

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Yamaknockers 7/23/2017 2:40am
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He's riding pretty much the same as he did last year on the Yamaha.
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philG 7/23/2017 3:11am
7/23/2017 3:11am
kiwifan wrote:
he already has a 450 rider for 2018
GuyB wrote:
You don't say...
kiwifan wrote:
Yeah clearly PhilG missed the memo
Yeah i did..

Am i right in remembering the RCH thing, i recall he was looking at going 450, then didnt and Star had already filled their roster with Ferrandis..and ended up at Geico as a result.

Its getting increasingly difficult for teams these days to find a rider who can ride SX and MX, JMart didnt even make mains, after having a great outdoors when he came up from Ams , and every year , despite being a 'favourite' , he seems to cock it up, and get hurt ... Hill is the opposite, until yesterday i would have said the same about Savatgy, but he rode well.

Its why Plessinger IMO is the top value 250 rider right now, as he can do both.

As for JMart at Daytona, i forgot about that , but i recall Wilson doing the same on a Kawi, its not a true SX , and throws some wierd results like that..

He is deffo a great rider , but like the OP said he isnt maintaining his trajectory. The even spoke about it in the broadcast.. at one point in Moto 1 he was getting caught by Steven Clarke , in his own back yard.


I do think that too many riders get overlooked , as they dont win titles at Lorettas , AMart is one of those, he can ride SX and MX , but didnt have the skills at the early age.


I'm assuming his 450 deal will be like Tomac, factory bike under the Geico tent.

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