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flarider
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Edited Date/Time 1/23/2012 6:14am
Pestering your local news outlets?
TV and Print?

If you do, and I will, put your thoughts together on items affected ALONG WITH motorcycles.

Second hand clothing
Second hand toys
New and used bicycles
Antiques
Hand made items

Do some research and find other businesses or industries affected, post them here for others to use as ammo when calling your local media
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2/12/2009 12:31pm Edited Date/Time 2/12/2009 12:33pm
The clothing people/ second hand shops have been fighting this for MONTHS now. Sorry it has effected you, but welcome to the fight. Strange I couldn't get my husband to even acknowledge the issue yesterday when it just effected "childrens clothing and toys" but now he is calling everyone he knows to talk about it, lol.

Oh, and it effects alot of small businesses. Once the third party testing goes into effect especially. With third party certification it cost several hundred dollars for EACH item to be tested, so people making custom, one of a kind garments/handmade toys would have to have EACH one tested where the big companies only have to have a few of the thousands of shirts/dolls tested. Oh, and testing destroys the sample.
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2/12/2009 12:32pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:28pm
Fishing and hunting equipment and every accessory possible associated?
Skateboards, pads.
Skiing equipment,clothing, etc.
Bicycles, replacement parts and accessories.

Any of those help? See ya got the bikes...oops. Handtools.
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2/12/2009 12:37pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:28pm
How so? Are these manufacturers and/or distributors?


This doesn't seem like a retroactive Act either. If it's new and hasn't been sold, this applies. It doesn't read that it affects secondhand shops, private individual sales, etc.

Ebay will be busier than ever.


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Way I understand it, commercial retailers cannot sell untested (uncertified) items intended for children 12 and under, new or used

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http://frugalliving.about.com/b/2009/01/09/cpsia-update.htm

CPSIA Update
Friday January 9, 2009

Well, it looks like second-hand shoppers have reason to celebrate. The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission has issued a press release clarifying how the new – and confusing – Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act pertains to resellers.

According to the release, "The new safety law does not require resellers to test children’s products in inventory for compliance with the lead limit before they are sold. However, resellers cannot sell children’s products that exceed the lead limit and therefore should avoid products that are likely to have lead content, unless they have testing or other information to indicate the products being sold have less than the new limit."

While this update does leave some questions unanswered – how a reseller is supposed to know a product exceeds lead limits without testing, for example – it does at least look like the right to shop second-hand for children's items will remain intact.
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2/12/2009 12:43pm
Where is a list of certifiied items? CPSA?
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It imposes new requirements on manufacturers of apparel, shoes, personal care products, accessories and jewelry, home furnishings, bedding, toys, electronics and video games, books, school supplies, educational materials and science kits.


Targeted industries
It is targeted mostly toward "children's products", which are defined as any consumer product designed or intended primarily for children 12 years of age or younger.

There are also new rules governing All terrain vehicle (ATVs).

It also affects any product that is subject to anything the CPSC regulates by requiring certificates of conformance which state that the product was tested to conform to the regulations its subject to.
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Alot of the items pulled recently from clothing stores were pulled because of rivits, zippers and other functional pieces which because they contain metal are suspect. The manufacturer cannot afford to not be in compliance because fines start at $100,000. How about kneebraces, helmets(for any sport), boots with metal pieces(also tennis shoes with rivits or any laceup shoe for that matter), pants with a metal zipper, need I go on? Now to other sports, baseball bats that are painted, finished, wrestling shoes, plastic mouthguards(which is the only thing sports related that should comply), playground equipment, helmets, shoulderpads etc from any sport.
Oh, and resellers aren't exempt from complying, just exempt from testing. So you think you want to sell something the manufacturer just pulled because it isn't compliant and argue you didn't know it wasn't compliant. Fines start at 100k and the CPSC has been given over 100M for inforcement.
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2/12/2009 1:11pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:28pm
There are also new rules governing All terrain vehicle (ATVs)

Where was the AMA and other representative groups?

Go Karting must be included; not regulated by a car manufacturer as they are exempt according to the rule. Just a thought.
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2/12/2009 1:33pm
The AMA ignored this until the final hour of the lead and minibikes
ban issue.

No one wants to talk about the fact that the AMA and the MIC
(Motorcycle Industry Council) virtually ignored the minibike issue up
until about February 1st, when the OEM's started notifying dealers of
the ban, spurring public outcry.

Where was the AMA and MIC?
Why weren't they banging the war drums months ago?
Where was the letter writing then?
Where was the demand for public support when the legislation was being
drafted or being sent to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave?

No one talks about that....all they want to do is bitch about Congress
No one wants to demand answers as to why those who are supposed to
represent them were apparently asleep at the wheel.


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2/12/2009 1:50pm
Below is a link to a story in the local paper about a friend of mine's 2nd hand kid's store.

Friend's "Kid to Kid" story
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Just getting a 125 smoker for your kid 10-12 as big as some of these kids are now.

Don't let 'em get a mini, but it's ok for then to ride a bigger bike?



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We have Springfield, MO channel KY3 doing a story from KTM of the Ozarks and they will be interviewing a current mini racer and his family.
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andymoto wrote:
There are also new rules governing All terrain vehicle (ATVs) Where was the AMA and other representative groups? Go Karting must be included; not regulated by...
There are also new rules governing All terrain vehicle (ATVs)

Where was the AMA and other representative groups?

Go Karting must be included; not regulated by a car manufacturer as they are exempt according to the rule. Just a thought.
They have been working on it:

Motorcycle Industry Council and Specialty Vehicle Institute of America
Rally Against Youth ATV and Motorcycle Prohibition

- Visit MIC Booth 4705 to Assist in Reaching Out to Legislators -
INDIANAPOLIS, Feb. 12, 2009 -The Motorcycle Industry Council and the Specialty Vehicle Institute of America are doing all they can at Dealer Expo 2009, and at their offices, to help get youth ATVs and motorcycles back on showroom floors. The U.S. Government banned sales of many of these models, beginning on Tuesday, under the lead-content provisions of the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act (CPSIA).

"We're implementing a full court press at the Dealer Expo," said Paul Vitrano, general counsel for the MIC and SVIA. "We are rallying everyone at Indy. Pre-printed letters to the Consumer Product Safety Commission, which can be signed and we'll send in, will be available throughout the show. Co mputers will be available in the MIC business center so that dealers and exhibitors can easily make their opinions known to members of Congress."

Everyone is encouraged to visit the Web site of Americans for Responsible Recreational Access, at www.ARRA-access.com, which features a letter generator for constituents to reach their own members of Congress. The MIC also is alerting stakeholders about a new Web site that state Rep. Tom Self of Missouri has launched in support of youth off-highway vehicles. The site, at www.tomself.com, offers e-mail templates to simplify sending messages to members of Congress with oversight of the CPSC.

For weeks, the MIC and SVIA have urged the CPSC to grant (and for members of Congress to support) petitions for temporary exclusions so that youth models could continue to be sold. The powersports industry demonstrated in the petitions, through the scientific analysis required by the CPSIA, that the lead-containing parts of youth A TVs and motorcycles pose no risk of increasing the lead levels in children aged 12 and younger.

On Feb. 5, the CPSC denied a request for an emergency stay, made by the National Association of Manufacturers CPSC Coalition, and joined by the MIC and SVIA. The CPSC stated that it did not have authority under the law to grant such a stay.

The Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act, however, includes provisions that enable the CPSC to grant exclusions for products on a case-by-case basis. The MIC and SVIA believe that the lead-content provisions of the act, which originally were aimed at toys that can be mouthed by children, were never intended to apply to youth ATVs and motorcycles.

On Feb. 10, the lead-content provisions of the CPSIA went into effect. Powersports companies are now prohibited from selling products that are intended primarily for youth, aged 12 and under, and having lead content in excess of the limits identified in the act.

The i mpact of this act is far-reaching. Applying the new lead-content regulations to youth models has resulted in many smaller models being unavailable to families, and could mean more children riding adult-only ATVs or dirt bikes that are too large for them.

Most of the components making up youth powersports products are in compliance. But some parts unavoidably contain small quantities of lead in excess of the CPSIA limits, such as the valve stems on the tires, the aluminum in some brake components and the terminals on the batteries. Lead in these components is necessary, either because small amounts of lead are needed for safety (such as machining the deep grooves on tire valves, which is needed to assure tire air retention) or functionality (such as the lead in battery terminals, which is needed to conduct electricity).

"It's critical for everyone within the business, and for all of our customers, to step up and support the petitions now in front of the CPSC," Vitrano said. "The ban is harming motorcycling and ATV riding right now. Dealernews has estimated that affected inventories could be more than $100 million. Kids don't have a chance to get on the bikes and ATVs sized for them. We need the power and voice of the industry, as well as enthusiasts, to reinforce our concerns in Washington. We're only asking for common-sense exclusions for powersports parts that simply do not present any risk to children in the real world. Kids don't lick or eat ATV and motorcycle components."

Since 1983, the Specialty Vehicle Institute of America® has promoted the safe and responsible use of All-Terrain Vehicles through rider training programs, public awareness campaigns, and state legislation. The SVIA also serves as a resource for ATV research, statistics, and vehicle standards. The SVIA, based in Irvine, Calif., is a not-for-profit trade association sponsored by Arctic Cat, BRP, CROSSRUNNER, Honda, Kawasaki, KTM, KYMCO, Polaris, Suzuk i, Tomberlin and Yamaha. For membership information, call (949) 727-3727. For safety information or to enroll in the ATV RiderCourseSM nearest you, visit www.atvsafety.org and click on "Online Enrollment" or call (800) 887-2887.

The Motorcycle Industry Council exists to preserve, protect and promote motorcycling through government relations, communications and media relations, statistics and research, aftermarket programs, development of data communications standards, and activities surrounding technical and regulatory issues. It is a not-for-profit, national trade association representing manufacturers and distributors of motorcycles, scooters, motorcycle/ATV/ROV parts and accessories, and members of allied trades such as publishing companies, advertising agencies, insurance firms and consultants. The MIC is headquartered in Irvine, Calif., with a government relations office adjacent to Washington, D.C. First called the MIC in 1970, the organizatio n has been in operation since 1914.
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2/12/2009 5:23pm
there will be a lot of new manufacturing here in america if this all holds up! maybe that was their objective?
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Has nothing to do with where the products were made but what they were made with.

I wish I was going to the dealer convention this weekend at Indy.
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They have been working on it:

I think the point is, they should have been working on it before Aug. of 08', and that's went it was passed. I'd have to assume there was word of the changes way before then also.

Either they didn't think it affected them at 1st, or some lawyers convinced them that their was a possibility it could affect them..

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