Dungey's lead would be 16 positions if it weren't for a point system designed to prevent consistent finishes from winning Championships

Ghost of Jabroni wrote:

So basically you want a system where anyone not in striking distance of the leader can just mail it in. As if the 4th thru 20th...

So basically you want a system where anyone not in striking distance of the leader can just mail it in.

As if the 4th thru 20th "battles" arent apathetic enough.

Funyun wrote:

I dont want any new system its fine how it is. I just dont want some stupid 1 point system that was mentioned in the original...

I dont want any new system its fine how it is. I just dont want some stupid 1 point system that was mentioned in the original post where settling for 2-3rd waiting for other people to crash is rewarded heavily. At least with the current system the faster riders can make their way back if they have bad races. If roczens crash only cost him 1 race he too could of made his way back but if we had this genius 1 point system trying to make up 25 points in series with no competition besides 3 people that would be pretty hard.

Ghost of Jabroni wrote:

FYI, there is NOTHING complacent about racing on a SX track. Guys of Dungey's commitment level are the LAST people we should be questioning. I find...

FYI, there is NOTHING complacent about racing on a SX track.

Guys of Dungey's commitment level are the LAST people we should be questioning.

I find it really funny that Dungey is accused of "coasting to a 4th place" in a sport littered with mechanics who would be more accurately labeled "parts changers" and a field of racers mostly made up of "athletes" that'd never pass the eyeball test if you didnt already know who they are. This entire sport is overflowing with complacency due to the extremely small talent pool the sport has to pull from. Yet people want to ask more of the one guy that has been more dedicated and focused than anyone else in the sport during his time? WTF.

Im not directly bashing you Funyun. Im moreso making a total observation of the fans misplaced criticism. Fuck, Im not even a Dungey fan. I wasnt a RV2 fan either. But I would NEVER question them or say they have "settled" for anything in life. Dungey's entire career is owed to the rest of the (more talented) field "settling" while he put in the work.

I was a JLaw fan. Didnt care for RV2 or Dungey. But never in a million years would I slight both their accomplishments. I dont care if RV2 took PEDs and I dont give a fuck if Dungey "played it safe" en route to 4 straight SX titles. RV2 & Dungey are 2 legitimate HoF'ers that take some serious undue criticism. It's asinine.

(sorry to bring RV2 into the discussion (I could list Bubba as well in this category) but I wanted to illustrate that this isn't a fanboi anti-Dungey issue. It's a deeper problem in that fans have a really hard time recognizing/appreciating greatness when they see it. It's a really bizzare phenomenon)

ab5772 wrote:

Nope. If Tomac wins, it's because he's an animal who mounted an incredible comeback against the best riders in the world. If Dungey wins it's because...

Nope. If Tomac wins, it's because he's an animal who mounted an incredible comeback against the best riders in the world. If Dungey wins it's because the field is weak and he got lucky. I like Tomac, but his fans on Vital make it tough.

Brownstone322 wrote:

According to whom? When did you last win a world title?

Acidreamer wrote:

Let me try another explanation. When you play basketball, do you feel better about a win vs your peers, or a kindergarten team? Or is it...

Let me try another explanation. When you play basketball, do you feel better about a win vs your peers, or a kindergarten team? Or is it the same? Will you go brag to your friends about beating up on little kids? Doubt it. Hope this makes sense to you.

Brownstone322 wrote:

You think Tomac and Musquin and Webb or Paulin and Stribos and Van Horbeek and Coldenhoff are "little kids"? Because Dungey and Febrve beat them all...

You think Tomac and Musquin and Webb or Paulin and Stribos and Van Horbeek and Coldenhoff are "little kids"?

Because Dungey and Febrve beat them all. Does that make sense to you?

Acidreamer wrote:

Let me try another explanation. When you play basketball, do you feel better about a win vs your peers, or a kindergarten team? Or is it...

Let me try another explanation. When you play basketball, do you feel better about a win vs your peers, or a kindergarten team? Or is it the same? Will you go brag to your friends about beating up on little kids? Doubt it. Hope this makes sense to you.

Brownstone322 wrote:

You think Tomac and Musquin and Webb or Paulin and Stribos and Van Horbeek and Coldenhoff are "little kids"? Because Dungey and Febrve beat them all...

You think Tomac and Musquin and Webb or Paulin and Stribos and Van Horbeek and Coldenhoff are "little kids"?

Because Dungey and Febrve beat them all. Does that make sense to you?

Acidreamer wrote:

Lol dude really? The riders outside the top 5 in points are miles behind tomac dungey musquin and roczen. The analogy is those outside of the...

Lol dude really? The riders outside the top 5 in points are miles behind tomac dungey musquin and roczen. The analogy is those outside of the top 5 are kids compared to dungey and tomac.

blusmbl wrote:

Dungey has an average finish of 2.4. Tomac's is 3.4...

Ghost of Jabroni wrote:

Thankyou for this stat. I always find it interesting.

Dungey clearly has had the better year. He's the deserving champ.