Do You Think Dungey's Scared?

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dirtworldmx 3/26/2017 8:52pm
3/26/2017 8:52pm
Dungey is exhausted at this point....he needs to drop Aldon Baker, and go SX only, so we can get a few more years out of him.
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rutsmash 3/26/2017 8:58pm
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The only thing that might have scared him was Roczen's crash. He backed it down last week after that sideways run thru the whoops when he was close to Tomac which makes me think he's not willing to do anything at this point. He is looking at the exit (end of career) which makes it hard to beat someone like Tomac who is Clubber Lang at this point.
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tempura 3/26/2017 9:10pm
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When a diesel runs out of fuel, you can't just fill it up again...
Baker syndrome. There seems to be inevitable burn out (mentally and physically) on his program.
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Mr. Ted 3/26/2017 9:11pm
3/26/2017 9:11pm
Heard he might be out for sphincter surgery. Hasn't been confirmed, but similar to arm pump survey.

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toroP 3/26/2017 9:31pm
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kiwifan wrote:
Nope
rutcross wrote:
dunge is pry scared because he knows once he retires he won't get free bikes anymore. Not everyone has that kiwi speed
"pry". The internet is revealing. Fun.

The dumbass can't even spell "prolly"Dry
Ah, but he probably doesn't care.
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FARANG 3/26/2017 9:52pm
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He's not scared, he was banking on Tomac having a bad race or two.

That hasn't really happened so he'll realize he needs to ramp up the speed/aggression and get some decent starts. It's called managing a championship. I still have Dungey as favourite, always feel Tomac has a 8th or a 9th place in him somewhere.

It's great to have a close Championship battle anyway, too often it's all over by this point and yet they're neck and neck. 450's and 250's are great at the moment. Don't really mind who wins, Tomac and Dungey are both great for the sport and worthy Champions IMO.
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MX Guy 3/27/2017 9:23am
3/27/2017 9:23am
FARANG wrote:
He's not scared, he was banking on Tomac having a bad race or two. That hasn't really happened so he'll realize he needs to ramp up...
He's not scared, he was banking on Tomac having a bad race or two.

That hasn't really happened so he'll realize he needs to ramp up the speed/aggression and get some decent starts. It's called managing a championship. I still have Dungey as favourite, always feel Tomac has a 8th or a 9th place in him somewhere.

It's great to have a close Championship battle anyway, too often it's all over by this point and yet they're neck and neck. 450's and 250's are great at the moment. Don't really mind who wins, Tomac and Dungey are both great for the sport and worthy Champions IMO.
JT$ would punch you in the face for that
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LoudLove 3/27/2017 9:50am
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Dungey sees the big picture at the race level. Tomac and MM had significant time over Ryan, so he knows barring an accident those positions are set. Meanwhile, there's little reason to aggressively set sail after 3rd and 4th when precision riding will reel in those targets.

RD can and has made aggressive moves, when required. In this instance, as in the past, Ryan calculates the time/laps remaining, evaluates the probabilities, and executes the plan.

That being said, Eli has the field covered from a pure speed perspective. He still needs to finish ahead of RD, and that interpolates into solid top-3 starts. Neither rider can absorb a significant misstep, yet neither can afford to relax. However, Dungey seems to be waiting for Eli to make a mistake, which may be a losing strategy.
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tkimb 3/27/2017 10:14am
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Dungey does calculate and stay smart, and it did seem like he would only get 3rd and could take his time getting around Grant and Millsaps, however by the checkers he wasn't far off of Marvin and was closing, a couple laps not behind Millsaps could have gotten him 2nd.
Although it's obviously easier to look back now compared to it happening in the moment to him.

Now I'm thinking Tomacs the favorite to win races, he is more likely to get a bad start historically compared to Dungey, but he's shown he can get a bad start, catch pass and gap Dungey, whereas when Dungeys had bad starts he's only gotten to 3rd or 2nd. That being said, even with all the points Tomacs made up he still basically NEEDS to win, since it's usually the only position in front of Dungey.
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JWACK 3/27/2017 10:17am
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Mr. Ted wrote:
Heard he might be out for sphincter surgery. Hasn't been confirmed, but similar to arm pump survey.
First hand experience?
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Dtat720 3/27/2017 10:45am
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Calculated management of a points lead...... knowing 2nd and 3rds will do...... some of you guys need to listen to him when he talks. He knows he needs wins. He has said it. He knows 2nds and 3rds wont do. Hes said it. He isnt managing his points lead, he is doing everything he can to win races and it isnt enough. He has said this. Sheesh man..... when someone says, my goal is to win, each race, im trying to win. Calculating to settle isnt his plan, it is what he has to settle for because he hasnt the speed to win right now.
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MX Guy 3/27/2017 11:16am
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Dtat720 wrote:
Calculated management of a points lead...... knowing 2nd and 3rds will do...... some of you guys need to listen to him when he talks. He knows...
Calculated management of a points lead...... knowing 2nd and 3rds will do...... some of you guys need to listen to him when he talks. He knows he needs wins. He has said it. He knows 2nds and 3rds wont do. Hes said it. He isnt managing his points lead, he is doing everything he can to win races and it isnt enough. He has said this. Sheesh man..... when someone says, my goal is to win, each race, im trying to win. Calculating to settle isnt his plan, it is what he has to settle for because he hasnt the speed to win right now.
What you said makes absolutely no sense to me. Contradicts everywhere.
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Dtat720 3/27/2017 11:20am
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Dtat720 wrote:
Calculated management of a points lead...... knowing 2nd and 3rds will do...... some of you guys need to listen to him when he talks. He knows...
Calculated management of a points lead...... knowing 2nd and 3rds will do...... some of you guys need to listen to him when he talks. He knows he needs wins. He has said it. He knows 2nds and 3rds wont do. Hes said it. He isnt managing his points lead, he is doing everything he can to win races and it isnt enough. He has said this. Sheesh man..... when someone says, my goal is to win, each race, im trying to win. Calculating to settle isnt his plan, it is what he has to settle for because he hasnt the speed to win right now.
MX Guy wrote:
What you said makes absolutely no sense to me. Contradicts everywhere.
Nothing contradictory about it. Guys are saying hes not going for the win by calculation, he isnt, he has said as much. He is trying to win, not manage a points lead. How is that a contradiction?
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mxb2 3/27/2017 11:24am
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Crush wrote:
Why the fuck would he be scared. Dude has won and lost more titles than Eli has competed for.
X2, and I am a huge tomac fan,. Dungeys been a champ for 10 years, he knows what he is doing. Eli is just faster at the moment. Rd5 will go down as one of the best ever.
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MX Guy 3/27/2017 11:49am
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Dtat720 wrote:
Calculated management of a points lead...... knowing 2nd and 3rds will do...... some of you guys need to listen to him when he talks. He knows...
Calculated management of a points lead...... knowing 2nd and 3rds will do...... some of you guys need to listen to him when he talks. He knows he needs wins. He has said it. He knows 2nds and 3rds wont do. Hes said it. He isnt managing his points lead, he is doing everything he can to win races and it isnt enough. He has said this. Sheesh man..... when someone says, my goal is to win, each race, im trying to win. Calculating to settle isnt his plan, it is what he has to settle for because he hasnt the speed to win right now.
MX Guy wrote:
What you said makes absolutely no sense to me. Contradicts everywhere.
Dtat720 wrote:
Nothing contradictory about it. Guys are saying hes not going for the win by calculation, he isnt, he has said as much. He is trying to...
Nothing contradictory about it. Guys are saying hes not going for the win by calculation, he isnt, he has said as much. He is trying to win, not manage a points lead. How is that a contradiction?
My bad, I actually misread it
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rutcross wrote:
dunge is pry scared because he knows once he retires he won't get free bikes anymore. Not everyone has that kiwi speed
aeffertz wrote:
You create account after account to just make fun of Dungey? How old are you?
Pretty sure GuyB needs to do some spring cleaning on a few multiple accounts.

This idiot is embarrassing Pinch
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lando356 3/27/2017 1:09pm
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I know one thing , sick of Ralph Sheheen, saying how Tomac catching him and how great he is...
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Dtat720 wrote:
Calculated management of a points lead...... knowing 2nd and 3rds will do...... some of you guys need to listen to him when he talks. He knows...
Calculated management of a points lead...... knowing 2nd and 3rds will do...... some of you guys need to listen to him when he talks. He knows he needs wins. He has said it. He knows 2nds and 3rds wont do. Hes said it. He isnt managing his points lead, he is doing everything he can to win races and it isnt enough. He has said this. Sheesh man..... when someone says, my goal is to win, each race, im trying to win. Calculating to settle isnt his plan, it is what he has to settle for because he hasnt the speed to win right now.
MX Guy wrote:
What you said makes absolutely no sense to me. Contradicts everywhere.
Dtat720 wrote:
Nothing contradictory about it. Guys are saying hes not going for the win by calculation, he isnt, he has said as much. He is trying to...
Nothing contradictory about it. Guys are saying hes not going for the win by calculation, he isnt, he has said as much. He is trying to win, not manage a points lead. How is that a contradiction?
When they are lined up on the gate he obviously wants to win. After the gate drops plans change. He gets a bad start and it's no longer pushing for the win it's about damage control and making it to the next race. He's settling for thirds because that's what's been available. He can't magically close a ten second gap on the leaders and there is no use trying to. You push to hard and go down he could throw away the title. He still has the red plate. If he gets a good start and Tomac gets a bad start the roles will be reversed and Tomac will have to do damage control. Tomac has nothing to lose and everything to gain right now. Dungey has a lot to lose and nothing to gain by riding to far over the edge.

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monty 3/27/2017 2:59pm
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Here's the problem as i see it. Tomac is on rails right now. Hes getting hot like he did in outdoors before getting hurt. His dad was a world class mountain biker. That training in high altitude is key. The same thing is happening to Dungey that happened to RV2. Aldon's training is only good for a max 4 years. The guys have to train sooo hard under him. It takes all the fun out of it. It works but burns the guys out.

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