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Dungey 19-22 to 4
Baggett 19-22 to 7
Malcolm Stewart 4 to 16
Grant 16 to 8
Osbourne 9 to 4 (in 11 laps)
Renzland 15 to 9 in 11 laps
Those who were good, won. Those who started bad, did not necessarily finish bad.
Imagine this were moto GP and the race was 22 minutes, not 45. Those who qualify bad would not make many passes and it would have absolutely nothing to do with the track and whether it was a "passing track" or not.
What we are seeing in SX this year is 22 very fit riders on 22 bikes where the difference between their bikes is marginal, almost negligible, and they are all pushing to the extreme of man and machine. The exact same as Moto GP, F1 and any other form of elite racing.
If there is hardly a difference in rider ability (except Dungey is in a league of his own and Tomac above that. They pass plenty), then yes, passing will be very difficult!
This isn't 90s SX where it was sketchy as hell and a huge difference in the bikes. You will not see 22nd to 1st any more. SX is reaching an apex and if you don't like it then maybe it's time to stop watching and stop getting upset on here.
Edit: BTW, I'm not saying things couldn't be better, because I think they possibly could be. But that's not a professional opinion, nor do I know any of the industry CONSTRAINTS (something alot of you forget about), so I will keep them to myself and enjoy super-cross for what it is
Baggett 19-22 to 7
Malcolm Stewart 4 to 16
Grant 16 to 8
Osbourne 9 to 4 (in 11 laps)
Renzland 15 to 9 in 11 laps
Those who were good, won. Those who started bad, did not necessarily finish bad.
Imagine this were moto GP and the race was 22 minutes, not 45. Those who qualify bad would not make many passes and it would have absolutely nothing to do with the track and whether it was a "passing track" or not.
What we are seeing in SX this year is 22 very fit riders on 22 bikes where the difference between their bikes is marginal, almost negligible, and they are all pushing to the extreme of man and machine. The exact same as Moto GP, F1 and any other form of elite racing.
If there is hardly a difference in rider ability (except Dungey is in a league of his own and Tomac above that. They pass plenty), then yes, passing will be very difficult!
This isn't 90s SX where it was sketchy as hell and a huge difference in the bikes. You will not see 22nd to 1st any more. SX is reaching an apex and if you don't like it then maybe it's time to stop watching and stop getting upset on here.
Edit: BTW, I'm not saying things couldn't be better, because I think they possibly could be. But that's not a professional opinion, nor do I know any of the industry CONSTRAINTS (something alot of you forget about), so I will keep them to myself and enjoy super-cross for what it is
There are always gonna be the elite dudes who push through, but to me, it's not that every dude should make 5 passes, that's unrealistic as you say... but even if they only make a couple, watching the races, these short straights just give no chance for dudes to even pull up on someone... you have no time to get a run. Then it's brakes.
And you guessed it, four strokes, they've got so much torque dudes aren't just missing obstacles left and right... and they're fast as hell so they try slow the tracks down.
At least the timed mains have removed the walls this year!
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I guess you could blame 4 strokes for evolving the sport to this point. But these guys get around the track so quick, that it's very hard to make a long straight away. They gotta slow them down with rhythm sections and turns, stop the riders from logging so many laps and destroying the track so much.
I guess that's why SX/MX fans, aren't always of fans MotoGP.
And the torque is huge. They can jump this or that, even with a mistake. Think about how many passes were results of mistakes back in the day. We just don't see it.
You would also see huge come from behind victories from great riders back in the day because you had factory level guys on the top of the line works (real works) bikes easily passing the 15 "pick up truck privateers" because they're bouncing everywhere like pogo sticks.
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Phoenix had options and had a ton of passing.
not to sound like ya missus, but every body has an opinion but can never back it up with anything. so unless you can some how prove me incorrect, then fuck along.
EDIT: Probably being too harsh there. I know now you're probably just trying to get you post count up
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