How many loads of dirt to build an arenacross track

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Hey guys, has any of you built your own arenacross track or know how many loads of dirt it takes?
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sumdood 2/9/2017 7:08am
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Shitloads
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it takes half the dirt from a normal sx track.
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JBecker 72 2/9/2017 7:35am
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When my friend had dirt delivered from a construction site to build his backyard track, he got 50 loads from those large trucks with 5 rear axles. He still needed more.
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huck 2/9/2017 7:37am
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A lot!

You can use things like round bales of hay, they push dirt over them for the big jumps.
We'd build a full sized arenacross track each year...and we were lucky to have dirt in the arena and would just push it up. I added 5 loads of good dirt and you couldn't even tell it was there. I'd estimate that just using dirt, you'd need around 30-40 loads, just for the big jump and landing.

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shiftmx_22 2/9/2017 7:39am
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If this is your first track build, I'd say take the number of truck loads you think you will need and times that by 5. That should at least get you halfway there.

Sorry I can't be more help, but I do know that people often underestimate how much dirt it actually takes to build a track.
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Dtat720 2/9/2017 7:40am
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If you have no dirt to start with, it will take atleast 250-300 loads. The supercross track that was built where i practiced was 600 loads. The ax track was 300.
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JBecker 72 2/9/2017 7:44am
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What do those big dump trucks hold? 25 cubic yards or so?
gpnewhouse 2/9/2017 7:46am
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Are you building it in a stadium or just in a field for you to practice on? If it's in a field just hire a digger and a dozer for a few days, put some drains in and then scrape off the top until you have enough soil.

Unless you can get good soil free then it will either cost a fortune to buy in good stuff or if you let companies have a free tip it'll most likely be rough rubble crappy stuff.
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JBecker 72 wrote:
What do those big dump trucks hold? 25 cubic yards or so?
A dump truck holds up to 14 yards. I'd guess the tractor with a dirt trailer can haul around 20-25 yards.

My dad and I went to get some dirt for a garden, and we ordered 2 yards. It was a 16' flatbed tandem axle. Not made for more than 2 yards. They loaded us up with a 10 yard bucket and I thought the damn trailer was going to split in half. I think we hauled 4 yards home that day and his truck barely could pull that damn thing. The axles were flexing to say the least.
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gpnewhouse wrote:
Are you building it in a stadium or just in a field for you to practice on? If it's in a field just hire a digger...
Are you building it in a stadium or just in a field for you to practice on? If it's in a field just hire a digger and a dozer for a few days, put some drains in and then scrape off the top until you have enough soil.

Unless you can get good soil free then it will either cost a fortune to buy in good stuff or if you let companies have a free tip it'll most likely be rough rubble crappy stuff.
I think the latter is what they did to build Oakland's SX track. It had all kinds of debris in the track.
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JBecker 72 2/9/2017 8:04am
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JBecker 72 wrote:
What do those big dump trucks hold? 25 cubic yards or so?
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A dump truck holds up to 14 yards. I'd guess the tractor with a dirt trailer can haul around 20-25 yards. My dad and I went...
A dump truck holds up to 14 yards. I'd guess the tractor with a dirt trailer can haul around 20-25 yards.

My dad and I went to get some dirt for a garden, and we ordered 2 yards. It was a 16' flatbed tandem axle. Not made for more than 2 yards. They loaded us up with a 10 yard bucket and I thought the damn trailer was going to split in half. I think we hauled 4 yards home that day and his truck barely could pull that damn thing. The axles were flexing to say the least.
The ones that delivered the dirt to my friends place had 5 axles and were very big trucks. Not your typical tandem axle.
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schaefsh 2/9/2017 8:14am
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1400-1700 cu/yds for a normal AX footprint in a hockey stadium.
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sumdood wrote:
Shitloads
That woulda been my guess!
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kkawboy14 2/9/2017 8:18am
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schaefsh wrote:
1400-1700 cu/yds for a normal AX footprint in a hockey stadium.
That's 100 truckloads
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Its going to be in a field. Im really just trying to help a buddy out who is trying to get his arenacross points so he can race supercross next year. My brother in law owns a sitework company, and has tri axle dump trucks and a clay pit and all that. Im trying to talk him hooking up my buddy with some dirt but just curious how much it would take. Doesnt have to be exactly the amount they use at the races but enough for a good practice track
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schaefsh wrote:
1400-1700 cu/yds for a normal AX footprint in a hockey stadium.
kkawboy14 wrote:
That's 100 truckloads
Yep
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MELTON139 wrote:
Its going to be in a field. Im really just trying to help a buddy out who is trying to get his arenacross points so he...
Its going to be in a field. Im really just trying to help a buddy out who is trying to get his arenacross points so he can race supercross next year. My brother in law owns a sitework company, and has tri axle dump trucks and a clay pit and all that. Im trying to talk him hooking up my buddy with some dirt but just curious how much it would take. Doesnt have to be exactly the amount they use at the races but enough for a good practice track
I'd ask him if you paid the fuel and driver if he could do it. That would cover his costs.
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MELTON139 wrote:
Its going to be in a field. Im really just trying to help a buddy out who is trying to get his arenacross points so he...
Its going to be in a field. Im really just trying to help a buddy out who is trying to get his arenacross points so he can race supercross next year. My brother in law owns a sitework company, and has tri axle dump trucks and a clay pit and all that. Im trying to talk him hooking up my buddy with some dirt but just curious how much it would take. Doesnt have to be exactly the amount they use at the races but enough for a good practice track
Man, I used to love that track in Milton. The one that looked like it was an old quarry or something. Good times.

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MELTON139 2/9/2017 9:14am
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MELTON139 wrote:
Its going to be in a field. Im really just trying to help a buddy out who is trying to get his arenacross points so he...
Its going to be in a field. Im really just trying to help a buddy out who is trying to get his arenacross points so he can race supercross next year. My brother in law owns a sitework company, and has tri axle dump trucks and a clay pit and all that. Im trying to talk him hooking up my buddy with some dirt but just curious how much it would take. Doesnt have to be exactly the amount they use at the races but enough for a good practice track
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Man, I used to love that track in Milton. The one that looked like it was an old quarry or something. Good times.
Yeah that track was so sick, now it is just an empty clay pit and the land owners wont sell it to anyone for a track.
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MELTON139 wrote:
Its going to be in a field. Im really just trying to help a buddy out who is trying to get his arenacross points so he...
Its going to be in a field. Im really just trying to help a buddy out who is trying to get his arenacross points so he can race supercross next year. My brother in law owns a sitework company, and has tri axle dump trucks and a clay pit and all that. Im trying to talk him hooking up my buddy with some dirt but just curious how much it would take. Doesnt have to be exactly the amount they use at the races but enough for a good practice track
huck wrote:
Man, I used to love that track in Milton. The one that looked like it was an old quarry or something. Good times.
MELTON139 wrote:
Yeah that track was so sick, now it is just an empty clay pit and the land owners wont sell it to anyone for a track.
Even when the track was down the road a little (in that housing development), it was still super fun. But not as fun as the original one.
motoxmainiac_878 2/9/2017 9:30am
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We have two ponds for drainage and watering, one is 50'x80' and about 10' deep that built the AX. The other is 150'x150' and 6' deep that helped with the SX. It takes dirt. A lot. Start small, build it on a Platform so you can use the soil from the surrounding area to bring lanes up and to utilize the most dirt possible. We have brought dirt in too to expand over the years, but the first one was smaller but did the trick and it was built with minimal dirt. You will be fine w a nice size skid loader, ax size pad, and if possible a close by area to dig!


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sumdood 2/9/2017 12:48pm
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Here in Ca. swimming pool builders are always looking for ways to get rid of dirt. Could be a way to get some of it for free at least. Might be worth a phone call or two
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MELTON139 2/9/2017 12:59pm
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Thats a good idea, we actually had that happen at my cousins boat shop like 2 years ago. Then I had to follow my cousin in a truck while he drove the tractor about 15 miles there and load it all in a dump trailer and haul it out to there house. It took forever lol
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MELTON139 3/5/2018 2:39pm
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I'm back again... So we never got around to building the AX track at my buddies, but now I'm wanting to build on at my house. I have a about 150'x200' area I want to build it on. Was curious if anyone has built their own AX track and have any suggestions. I know if I hauled all the dirt in it would be about 100 loads, but I was curious how much of it I could get by scraping the ground in between the lanes and around the track. I was wanting to have a whoop section, a double double double section, and a finish line double. Then add a step on step off and double depending on how much dirt I can get.
dirtbikemike 3/5/2018 4:41pm
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You can clip 10 inches off that 150'x200' area and get enough dirt to build what you described. For our fairgrounds race we added some round bales to speed up the process and save dirt. Worked great for over 10 years. Huck helped a little bit. One small dozer and one skid steer and three days will get it done.











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Like someone else posted, 1400-1700 cu yards for an actual ax build.

Plan on 600- 700 yards of that being your base. So 800- 1000 yards for the obstacles and bowl turns.

If you cut down 12" between the lanes and cut down 6" between the jumps in your lanes and off your start you can get all the dirt you will need.

Keep in mind that table top and step on step offs take a lot more dirt than Rythm lanes or doubles.vcr,
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JustMX wrote:
Like someone else posted, 1400-1700 cu yards for an actual ax build. Plan on 600- 700 yards of that being your base. So 800- 1000 yards...
Like someone else posted, 1400-1700 cu yards for an actual ax build.

Plan on 600- 700 yards of that being your base. So 800- 1000 yards for the obstacles and bowl turns.

If you cut down 12" between the lanes and cut down 6" between the jumps in your lanes and off your start you can get all the dirt you will need.

Keep in mind that table top and step on step offs take a lot more dirt than Rythm lanes or doubles.vcr,
Yeah that’s why I was gonna do this step on/off last or not at all. Here’s the layout I drew up

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