Another Moto Van Build

john.aron
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1/2/2017 11:51am
Huckster wrote:
Just curious, why not a full wall divider?
A few different reasons, but mostly because I want to be able to carry my 8' long surfboard!

Honestly, I don't really understand the motivation for the full wall. It is probably safer in a crash but in every other way it just makes the vehicle less versatile and if I was really that concerned for my safety, I probably wouldn't ride moto.
john.aron
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tomm55x wrote:
great build, one of the nicest and detailed builds I have seen.
Thank you! I really appreciate it.
Huckster
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1/2/2017 11:58am
Huckster wrote:
Just curious, why not a full wall divider?
john.aron wrote:
A few different reasons, but mostly because I want to be able to carry my 8' long surfboard! Honestly, I don't really understand the motivation for...
A few different reasons, but mostly because I want to be able to carry my 8' long surfboard!

Honestly, I don't really understand the motivation for the full wall. It is probably safer in a crash but in every other way it just makes the vehicle less versatile and if I was really that concerned for my safety, I probably wouldn't ride moto.
If you seal it properly there are no fumes if you intend to sleep in it. That's why I always did a full wall. Great looking build though. Very impressive.
john.aron
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1/2/2017 12:03pm
Huckster wrote:
If you seal it properly there are no fumes if you intend to sleep in it. That's why I always did a full wall. Great looking...
If you seal it properly there are no fumes if you intend to sleep in it. That's why I always did a full wall. Great looking build though. Very impressive.
Yeah I understand that concern. I haven't noticed any fumes in mine yet. When I sleep though I open the vent above the bed and crack both of the front two windows. I've never smelled any fumes like that.

The other issue I had with a full wall is figuring out how to heat the space. I wouldn't want to be in that small of a space with the propane heater so my setup lets me put the heater all the way in the back. Any fumes from that also leave through the vent, while I still get most of its heat, meanwhile breathing fresh air from the front.

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1/2/2017 1:27pm Edited Date/Time 1/2/2017 3:54pm
Motivation for a wall is your health saftey. Motorcycles and gas cans expel fumes whether your capable of smelling them or not.
david225
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1/2/2017 1:35pm
Thats pretty awesome dude. Definitely like the creativity and functionality in your design. I wish that I had the cash to come out to Cali and buy it!
john.aron
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2/8/2017 11:59am
Well I messed up pretty good…I’m typing this update from my hospital room at Santa Barbara Cottage Hospital, where I've been since Saturday, January 28th.  I got a little more drive than I was expecting up a jump face, and OJ’d a double by a good amount.  I landed to flat, on the bike, but my T9 vertebrae broke, and a fragment of bone hit my spinal cord.  I currently have no feeling below my waist.

It's been a difficult week.  I’m struggling with this emotionally as well as physically, while the doctors try to get my pain under control.  Finally though, I’m off all IV pain medicine, and it looks like tomorrow morning I will be flown back to Colorado where I will begin the long process of rehab.  I will eventually be at Craig Hospital in Denver, but will have to wait a few weeks before going there in order to allow my wrist to heal; it was also broken in the accident and is not yet able to bear weight.

As far as details…In the crash my spinal cord was not cut and neither was the sack that contains the fluid surrounding the spinal cord. I have felt some nerve sensations from time to time, and I also think I have got my legs to move just a tiny bit on two separate occasions.  I’m just hoping and hoping that this isn’t permanent.  I’ve left out the name of the track, because there's no reason to give them bad press.  This could have happened anywhere.  I also don’t really want to talk about the crash itself all that much.

I do have insurance, and so far most things have been covered, but I’ve started a Go-Fund-Me to help raise some money for some equipment I’ll require, the handicapped accessible renovations that my place will need, and the care I’ve received that hasn't been covered.  If you've enjoyed following the progress of my van build on VitalMX, and feel like making a contribution, it would really mean a lot to me. This is a kinda shitty ending to what had been a really happy story of building a motovan and the bliss of cruising Cali with no fixed agenda.  Thanks for all your interest and all your support.  

https://www.gofundme.com/home-reno-after-spinal-cord-injury
john.aron
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2/8/2017 12:13pm
Also the motovan is back in Colorado and will be for sale, the proceeds to help me get back on my feet.
Sidecar
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2/8/2017 1:19pm
No man.... That really sucks.... I'm speechless and don't know what to say. I have really enjoyed watching your van build as I continue to work on and improve my own van, it's funny how the www allows guys like us to be friends as we live similar lives in different corners of the world, building bikes and vans, going on road trips and hitting up races and tracks.
Stay strong and fight with every ounce of strength you have to regain movement and keep us posted about your progress.
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2/8/2017 1:41pm
Donation sent (from Steve Jones)
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2/8/2017 1:56pm
Man, John, that's a tough blow for sure. I will say though, judging by the work and attention to detail you put into your van, I'd say you will attack this and especially rehab full force and kick it's ass!
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2/8/2017 2:20pm
Bummer to hear, I hope that you get back to 100% and soon. I don't post much but I've followed this thread for ideas on my enclosed trailer. I appreciate you documenting it so thoroughly.

I probably couldn't afford it, but how much are you thinking for the van? Any idea how much money you have in it?
john.aron
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2/8/2017 2:23pm
Maddeh wrote:
Bummer to hear, I hope that you get back to 100% and soon. I don't post much but I've followed this thread for ideas on my...
Bummer to hear, I hope that you get back to 100% and soon. I don't post much but I've followed this thread for ideas on my enclosed trailer. I appreciate you documenting it so thoroughly.

I probably couldn't afford it, but how much are you thinking for the van? Any idea how much money you have in it?
Not sure. You can see what Ive put into it, but just taking offers for now. Thanks for the interest.
jhansen510
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2/8/2017 2:55pm
God damnit I am absolutely shocked to read this update. Positive vibes and strength is being sent your way. You got this! Do not let yourself lose the will to fight.
TommyLee93
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2/8/2017 3:19pm
Damn, stay strong and please keep us updated.
race250r
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2/8/2017 3:57pm
Thinking of you right now, John. Keep fighting!
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2/8/2017 4:07pm
Fuck... I'm speechless John. Praying for you. hvaughn said it best and I also fully believe you will attack this rehab and kick ass.
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2/8/2017 4:22pm Edited Date/Time 2/8/2017 4:41pm
John, sorry to hear. I've enjoyed this thread and your enthusiasm in sharing your experiences with us.
Let me know what I can do to help. Already sent a small donation, but if you need any resources or knowledge PM me.

I have some questions, I don't expect you to answer them. I just want to make sure you have the best resources/knowlege available to you NOW.

What was the initial course of action? Any treatment using ice packs? Drugs (not for pain)? Anything else to help limit the initial swelling?
Are you going to get surgery to put hardware in your back? What have the doctors advised along those lines?
What hospital are you in now? It needs to be one capable of handling spinal/neuro care. These first days/weeks/months are the most important.
Are you mobile at all, or in bed 24/7? If you are mobile, are you in a hard plastic "clamshell" back brace? (I doubt you should be mobile, but that maybe depended on weather you have hardware or not)
Do the staff keep you changing positions? You DO NOT want to get any bed sores, pneumonia, blood clots, or any unnecessary complications.
How is your breathing/O2 levels? Is it assisted in any way? (Your injury is low enough it shouldn't be affected but if you have ANY difficulty breathing tell someone right away).


From there Craig Hospital in Denver is a great facility.
Keep us posted an let us know if I can help.

Keep strong brother!


edit: I saw more info in the gofundme update, but I'll leave the questions as they were more rhetorical anyway.

If you want to post how to send you a card at the hospital (or some get well goodies), I'd love to send you something.
RBernardi85
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2/8/2017 4:53pm
John, it's a shock to hear about your injuries. Though I've never posted in your thread I've lurked and was very impressed. I had 3 friends there that morning, said it was a scary ordeal. If I would have known I would have brought some stuff to distract you for a second. I wish you the best in your recovery.
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2/8/2017 5:45pm
So bummed to hear, truly. Thats too many SCIs in the last year.
I cannot help financially, but if there is anything you need as far as equipment to goes, I am a (new) fabricator and would be happy to build something and send it your way. Could be something small, aluminum or stainless, whatever you might need while adjusting to your new life.

Pm me or email me if/when the time comes

jwat381@gmail.com
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2/8/2017 6:54pm
Hey John, so bummed to hear! I wanted to meet up with you while you were here? I thought I had your number or email. But have you seen any spine specialist? I have some connections with DISC Sport And Spine in Santa Monica if you want to try and get in there? They work with all the professional Red Bull athletes. Please email me or text if there's anything I can help with. Carlinojoe@yahoo.com
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2/9/2017 5:16am
That is so heartbreaking to read, sending prayers and best wishes your way.

I have also loved following this thread and your build, gave me some awesome ideas for my motovan.
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2/9/2017 5:37am
This blows, all the work and dedication going in to that van and end up like this. I feel for you man. Hope everything turns out good.
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2/9/2017 5:58am
Hey mate! This is such bad news and such a bloody shame. I followed this thread everyday and never missed an update. Good luck with the recovery and everything that goes with a serious injury like this. I can't afford to donate at the minute, but I will be happy to chip in what I can over the next few weeks. Keep us updated mate. Hopefully an admin will pin this thread for support.
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2/9/2017 7:38am
John this truly blows and I am so sad to hear about this, but as other have said, based on your character and drive you will get after this injury and kick its ass.
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2/9/2017 10:41am
John,

My prayers are with you for a full recovery.

From your descriptions of the SC and the injury, I would take hope that things/movements come back to you...

Your article on the van was pretty damn sick bro.......I was envious that you were chasing your dream. . .

I did a bit of that back in the day. :-)

Heads up man, fight.

PS
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2/9/2017 6:52pm
John

Prayers for your recovery. I lurk on Vital non stop and happen to read through your moto van build and was heart broken to see your latest posts.

A small blessing that Craig Hospital is near your home. My wife and I have volunteered there with our Great Dane therapy dog and have friends who worked there and know you are in very good hands.

Truly wishing you a speedy and full recovery.

B
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2/10/2017 8:22am
Donation sent.Heal up quickly man :-)
2/10/2017 8:37am
Truly gut-wrenching seeing fellow riders get seriously injured doing what we love. I hope John gets everything he needs for a full recovery. Donation sent.
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2/10/2017 9:14am Edited Date/Time 2/10/2017 9:14am
Man so tough to hear, im praying for you!

Long journey ahead but from what you said there might be a chance for full recovery. Wishing you the best.

Im putting some money up for your gofundme and I hope you can get all the help and support you need.

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