Australia going cashless ,India to?

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11/18/2016 1:16pm
So, I have two opinions about this:

1- Money can be whatever you agree it is. It doesn't have to be paper and coins; it can be Kent cigarettes, voodoo dolls, gold bars or electronic records. As long as everyone in the market agrees upon the value of said tokens, the economy will work just fine. So I have no problem with this.

2- In sort of the opposite vein, I hate this idea. All it will take is one computer glitch or some malware and someone's life savings is erased. I bet if you asked the banks themselves if they were giving up on their non-liquid assets, they'd say "no way."
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11/18/2016 1:43pm Edited Date/Time 11/18/2016 1:51pm
I say go! Can't remember the last time I used cash. All I use these days are my card and swish. But maybe swish is a swedish thing only? Pinch


Oh just read it lol. "In Sweden, which has been identified as potentially being the first cashless society, buses have not accepted cash for years, retailers have the right to refuse cash payments and even homeless street vendors accept cards thanks to new digital payment systems."
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11/18/2016 3:58pm
I always ask myself, "What if?"

What if I wake up one morning and my savings account has been wiped clean? I go to the bank and they say, "No, there's no record of your [$42, $428, $4,954,992... insert whatever dollar amount makes sense to you,] ever having been here."
"But I have my statement from last month that shows $42."
"I don't know what to tell you, sir. Sorry. The front door is over there."

Truly, the same thing could happen in cash, because we don't actually have little boxes full of paper bills for our accounts anyway. The problem I have is that it seems so much easier to manipulate the value of our currency if there really isn't any physical evidence of it. Hell, they just print more of it whenever they want anyway so why do I even care?
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11/18/2016 4:18pm
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11/18/2016 4:19pm
Make it all digital and it can be siezed at any given moment without recourse. Cash gives independence. Digital gives total control away
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11/18/2016 4:46pm Edited Date/Time 11/18/2016 4:47pm
Well shit, there goes those "what's your cash price" deals. I'm sure the IRS (or whatever the equivalent is in those countries) will love this
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11/18/2016 5:43pm
It's coming and cannot be stopped..... will it be abused........ for sure. The insurance companies can't wait........
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11/18/2016 7:42pm
Wouldn't this mean state can make sure they collect sales tax on every last transaction. We have a use tax in CA and your are supposed to pay tax if you sell stuff at a garage sale. Nobody does but this would provide a record of the tranaction.

I don't like electronic payments myself. I was hoping this would not happen in my lifetime.
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11/18/2016 8:50pm Edited Date/Time 11/18/2016 9:19pm
It is an interesting concept, makes it hard to do illegal things, take bribes etc, Not sure how that would work out though would people just use a different cash currency? Will you have to bribe with gold?...I would say if this happens or looks to be on a large scale buy some physical gold or silver. In the US there was talk of the Amero as a new currency. but now they are talking about moving to the trump. kidding obviously



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11/18/2016 8:55pm Edited Date/Time 11/18/2016 8:56pm
I don't have a debit card. I use cash and a 0% CC. I go to the bank one time per week and withdraw the exact same amount. When I run out of cash, I go home knowing that I'll still have a lot of money in the bank next week.

If you don't accept cash, fuck you, someone else will.
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11/18/2016 9:14pm
Dtat720 wrote:
Make it all digital and it can be siezed at any given moment without recourse. Cash gives independence. Digital gives total control away
How much of your money, currently, is non-digital?
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11/19/2016 4:35am Edited Date/Time 11/19/2016 4:37am
Dtat720 wrote:
Make it all digital and it can be siezed at any given moment without recourse. Cash gives independence. Digital gives total control away
bsm121 wrote:
How much of your money, currently, is non-digital?
Aside from investment money i cant just withdraw, most of it. I keep a checking account for bills, paypal, stuff like that. I have reloadable visas for online purchases, i keep the majority of what i do as cash. I only deposit in the bank what i know i need to spend. The rest i keep out. Ive had my identity stolen twice. Credit wrecked twice, accounts drained twice. First time was an ebay hack, second time was mail fraud, neighbor was stealing mail...

For the most part, I invest the majority of my money. I dont see it.
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11/19/2016 6:30am
Going to a cashless system will give the big banks supreme power. It will also hinder your independence and the chance of being hacked and losing everything, with no recourse, will become a reality for everyone.

I always have three to five hundred in my pocket. I don't want a financial institution or the gubment to be able to track every transaction I make.
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11/19/2016 6:38am
What I saw on the news in India was huge crowds at the atm and you could only get 8 dollars a day or such.

The farmers markets were in turmoil because no one had money ,produce was rotting and such.

It was crazy.

At the same time they had a story were these big banks had oversold their gold 3 times and if you dont physical have it you aint going to get it.

Good times, i can always trade likker.
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11/19/2016 8:46am
Falcon wrote:
So, I have two opinions about this: 1- Money can be whatever you agree it is. It doesn't have to be paper and coins; it can...
So, I have two opinions about this:

1- Money can be whatever you agree it is. It doesn't have to be paper and coins; it can be Kent cigarettes, voodoo dolls, gold bars or electronic records. As long as everyone in the market agrees upon the value of said tokens, the economy will work just fine. So I have no problem with this.

2- In sort of the opposite vein, I hate this idea. All it will take is one computer glitch or some malware and someone's life savings is erased. I bet if you asked the banks themselves if they were giving up on their non-liquid assets, they'd say "no way."
Do you think your life savings is sitting in a bank in stacks of cash? Pretty sure we're already in the state you are afraid of. About all you can do is convert all your life savings of 1s and 0s into gold and hope someone doesn't find a gigantic vein of gold that makes gold worth no more than lead. Smile Best thing you could do is use your life savings to buy large quantities of thing that people will always need and it will last forever and isn't easily stolen.
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11/19/2016 9:02am
Laughing Hillbilly, did you actually read the article you posted a link to???

A single bank with a whole six branches won't have any cash in them. Their cards will, I'm sure, still work at ATMs.

That hardly constitutes "Australia going cashless".

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11/19/2016 10:27am
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11/19/2016 12:42pm
hvaughn88 wrote:
Well shit, there goes those "what's your cash price" deals. I'm sure the IRS (or whatever the equivalent is in those countries) will love this
That's right and no more "under the table".

But I did read that there is gonna be a new face on the $20

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