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Crush 10/17/2016 4:23pm
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YellowZonker wrote:
I call BS on Jimmy turning down factory Suzuki support for his team. There's no way he turns that down so he can be a privateer...
I call BS on Jimmy turning down factory Suzuki support for his team. There's no way he turns that down so he can be a privateer next year like he said in the podcast. I suspect Suzuki didn't like something about the program so they gave the support to JGR instead. This is purely speculation on my part and not to be taken as fact.
IT could have been you do this and we want you to take this... as in another certain 450 rider who Suzuki is trying to help find a home for.
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Phillip_Lamb 10/17/2016 4:34pm
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I have a feeling Suzuki pulled support when MS dropped out. I remember hearing the rumor that MS Team would be the Factory 250 effort for next year recently but if there is no money there is no reason to supply bikes and parts
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ML512 10/17/2016 4:35pm
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YellowZonker wrote:
I call BS on Jimmy turning down factory Suzuki support for his team. There's no way he turns that down so he can be a privateer...
I call BS on Jimmy turning down factory Suzuki support for his team. There's no way he turns that down so he can be a privateer next year like he said in the podcast. I suspect Suzuki didn't like something about the program so they gave the support to JGR instead. This is purely speculation on my part and not to be taken as fact.
I talked to some folks at Suzuki and Yoshimura, they confirmed that it was Jimmy's decision. On Jimmy'a end, it had to with not wanting to leave some people that have had his back always, so I understand why he did it.
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I have a feeling Suzuki pulled support when MS dropped out. I remember hearing the rumor that MS Team would be the Factory 250 effort for...
I have a feeling Suzuki pulled support when MS dropped out. I remember hearing the rumor that MS Team would be the Factory 250 effort for next year recently but if there is no money there is no reason to supply bikes and parts
Suzuki didn't pull their support.

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kzizok 10/17/2016 4:40pm
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These contract issues are not unique to the MX industry. Generally not worth the paper they are written on unless you have plenty of money and time to sue or defend. Even if you are on the right side of it. Im not an attorney, and there can be exceptions, but I have seen contractual issues in many instances (including MX).

Often times, one side (or both) realizes you cant get blood from a stone and its just better to move on.
Moens_Andy 10/17/2016 4:43pm
10/17/2016 4:43pm
Do you think it was a dumb decision by Jimmy Michael? In al fairness i do understand why he did it but he must have realised this is probably a one of opportunity and could possibly launch his future carreer.
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malachi177 10/17/2016 5:18pm
10/17/2016 5:18pm
mx_563 wrote:
I think it's a blessing.
Please explain??
Langhammx 10/17/2016 5:48pm
10/17/2016 5:48pm
YellowZonker wrote:
I call BS on Jimmy turning down factory Suzuki support for his team. There's no way he turns that down so he can be a privateer...
I call BS on Jimmy turning down factory Suzuki support for his team. There's no way he turns that down so he can be a privateer next year like he said in the podcast. I suspect Suzuki didn't like something about the program so they gave the support to JGR instead. This is purely speculation on my part and not to be taken as fact.
You are incorrect and probably do not realize how deep his roots are with FMF. He's a very loyal guy and didn't want to be told how to run his own team by Yoshimura. Not hard to understand why he did it. You can take this as FACT !!
Langhammx 10/17/2016 5:50pm
10/17/2016 5:50pm
Moens_Andy wrote:
Do you think it was a dumb decision by Jimmy Michael? In al fairness i do understand why he did it but he must have realised...
Do you think it was a dumb decision by Jimmy Michael? In al fairness i do understand why he did it but he must have realised this is probably a one of opportunity and could possibly launch his future carreer.
I'm sure it was tough to turn down the factory Suzuki offer, but I bet he didn't even take long to make his decision. Just my honest opinion.
YellowZonker 10/17/2016 5:59pm
10/17/2016 5:59pm
YellowZonker wrote:
I call BS on Jimmy turning down factory Suzuki support for his team. There's no way he turns that down so he can be a privateer...
I call BS on Jimmy turning down factory Suzuki support for his team. There's no way he turns that down so he can be a privateer next year like he said in the podcast. I suspect Suzuki didn't like something about the program so they gave the support to JGR instead. This is purely speculation on my part and not to be taken as fact.
Langhammx wrote:
You are incorrect and probably do not realize how deep his roots are with FMF. He's a very loyal guy and didn't want to be told...
You are incorrect and probably do not realize how deep his roots are with FMF. He's a very loyal guy and didn't want to be told how to run his own team by Yoshimura. Not hard to understand why he did it. You can take this as FACT !!
I stand corrected. I still can't believe he would throw that away to stay with FMF. Loyalty is great but I'm sure FMF would be happy to see him have success even with another brand. FMF was classy about JGR leaving.
Langhammx 10/17/2016 6:10pm
10/17/2016 6:10pm
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I stand corrected. I still can't believe he would throw that away to stay with FMF. Loyalty is great but I'm sure FMF would be happy...
I stand corrected. I still can't believe he would throw that away to stay with FMF. Loyalty is great but I'm sure FMF would be happy to see him have success even with another brand. FMF was classy about JGR leaving.
Very DEEP roots. And it's his team, he wants to run it on his own terms. I respect that and so does all of his other sponsors. It will hopefully pay off in the long run.
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Crush 10/17/2016 7:33pm
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YellowZonker wrote:
I call BS on Jimmy turning down factory Suzuki support for his team. There's no way he turns that down so he can be a privateer...
I call BS on Jimmy turning down factory Suzuki support for his team. There's no way he turns that down so he can be a privateer next year like he said in the podcast. I suspect Suzuki didn't like something about the program so they gave the support to JGR instead. This is purely speculation on my part and not to be taken as fact.
Langhammx wrote:
You are incorrect and probably do not realize how deep his roots are with FMF. He's a very loyal guy and didn't want to be told...
You are incorrect and probably do not realize how deep his roots are with FMF. He's a very loyal guy and didn't want to be told how to run his own team by Yoshimura. Not hard to understand why he did it. You can take this as FACT !!
YellowZonker wrote:
I stand corrected. I still can't believe he would throw that away to stay with FMF. Loyalty is great but I'm sure FMF would be happy...
I stand corrected. I still can't believe he would throw that away to stay with FMF. Loyalty is great but I'm sure FMF would be happy to see him have success even with another brand. FMF was classy about JGR leaving.
Ya, if that's what and why, it's admirable but holy hell, I hope it was because FMF was offering the same thing, especially if the other option is it's all done and dusted.
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mx510 10/17/2016 7:43pm
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Moens_Andy wrote:
Do you think it was a dumb decision by Jimmy Michael? In al fairness i do understand why he did it but he must have realised...
Do you think it was a dumb decision by Jimmy Michael? In al fairness i do understand why he did it but he must have realised this is probably a one of opportunity and could possibly launch his future carreer.
Who is Jimmy Michael? Laughing
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mxwrench66 10/17/2016 7:44pm
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great guy. but why would he turn down suzukies offer to do the 250 factory effort? maybe they wanted different riders on the team? jimmy sure...
great guy. but why would he turn down suzukies offer to do the 250 factory effort? maybe they wanted different riders on the team? jimmy sure seems like he sticks to his word, no matter what.
Panic_Rev wrote:
Just a thought, but maybe they would have made him ditch all the people that have stuck behind him over the years. Top Jimmy seems pretty...
Just a thought, but maybe they would have made him ditch all the people that have stuck behind him over the years. Top Jimmy seems pretty loyal to the people that care about him.
Panic_Rev gets it.
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rohleder644 10/17/2016 8:12pm
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Can we just take a second to applaud the tenacity of ol Mr Albertson and the whole crew along side him? Dude has gotten the raw end of more than his fair share of deals and he keeps plugging away. And he sure seems to keep a pretty kick ass attitude the whole way through.
YellowZonker 10/17/2016 9:06pm
10/17/2016 9:06pm
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I stand corrected. I still can't believe he would throw that away to stay with FMF. Loyalty is great but I'm sure FMF would be happy...
I stand corrected. I still can't believe he would throw that away to stay with FMF. Loyalty is great but I'm sure FMF would be happy to see him have success even with another brand. FMF was classy about JGR leaving.
Langhammx wrote:
Very DEEP roots. And it's his team, he wants to run it on his own terms. I respect that and so does all of his other...
Very DEEP roots. And it's his team, he wants to run it on his own terms. I respect that and so does all of his other sponsors. It will hopefully pay off in the long run.
I think I'm picking up what you're laying down. Ronnie Mac is the cheese in the FMF sandwich.
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mx_563 10/17/2016 9:09pm
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mx_563 wrote:
I think it's a blessing.
malachi177 wrote:
Please explain??
I just think things happen for a reason. Maybe this keeps Jimmy from expending his energies in pursuit of....I'm not even sure....becoming a.....Mitch Payton? Jeff Majkrzak? Mike Genova? Coy Gibbs?

I think you have to be a guy like that (loaded) to make a private team work. Otherwise you are just going to be scraping to get by, trying not to get screwed by the next promising title sponsor, trying to keep guys on your team (remember the Mitchel Oldenburg scenario?) etc. Jimmy even talked about it in the interview with Matthes, his home life suffered last year due to the stress and workload of trying to run the team. And for what? So he could pit out of a semi?

I don't think losing MS is such a terrible thing in the grand scheme of things.

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Langhammx 10/17/2016 9:51pm
10/17/2016 9:51pm
YellowZonker wrote:
I stand corrected. I still can't believe he would throw that away to stay with FMF. Loyalty is great but I'm sure FMF would be happy...
I stand corrected. I still can't believe he would throw that away to stay with FMF. Loyalty is great but I'm sure FMF would be happy to see him have success even with another brand. FMF was classy about JGR leaving.
Langhammx wrote:
Very DEEP roots. And it's his team, he wants to run it on his own terms. I respect that and so does all of his other...
Very DEEP roots. And it's his team, he wants to run it on his own terms. I respect that and so does all of his other sponsors. It will hopefully pay off in the long run.
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I think I'm picking up what you're laying down. Ronnie Mac is the cheese in the FMF sandwich.
Wink
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-eagle- 10/18/2016 5:31am
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Any pics of his bike from The Monster Cup?
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jpracer931 10/19/2016 12:51am
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His loyalty to merge racing is probanly a reason also,some of his instagram and twitter posts have related to that relationship,he and jim have done alot of testing together and he rides at compound 77 all the time which jim is the owner i believe,so to me as far as a factory backed effort he wanted to stay merge not yosh

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