Garage Floor Epoxy Coating - Input needed.

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lumpy790 10/21/2014 6:29am
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Camp332 wrote:
I don't have a Newmann style garage, but I'm working on this 14 X 20 workshop at my house simultaneous to getting an addition. Sealed the...
I don't have a Newmann style garage, but I'm working on this 14 X 20 workshop at my house simultaneous to getting an addition.

Sealed the wood floor with the Behr "DeckOver"


Then I saw all the great reviews on Garage Journal about RaceDeck, so I got it. I'm pumped on this floor so far.


Consider RaceDeck as an option for you.


Once our addition on the house is done I'll be able to button up my workshop with drywall, electric, TV, internet and all that good stuff.

that is what we use on our EXPO floor.

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Camp332 wrote:
I don't have a Newmann style garage, but I'm working on this 14 X 20 workshop at my house simultaneous to getting an addition. Sealed the...
I don't have a Newmann style garage, but I'm working on this 14 X 20 workshop at my house simultaneous to getting an addition.

Sealed the wood floor with the Behr "DeckOver"


Then I saw all the great reviews on Garage Journal about RaceDeck, so I got it. I'm pumped on this floor so far.


Consider RaceDeck as an option for you.


Once our addition on the house is done I'll be able to button up my workshop with drywall, electric, TV, internet and all that good stuff.

lumpy790 wrote:
that is what we use on our EXPO floor. [URL=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lumpy790/media/APA/MotoHose/EXPO/imagejpg1_zps5f788177.jpg.html][IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/lumpy790/APA/MotoHose/EXPO/imagejpg1_zps5f788177.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
that is what we use on our EXPO floor.

The owner of RaceDeck is actually my neighbor. It's a good product.
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Very nice! I do like that body style. First car I ever painted was my 70 1/2 SS which I bought incomplete from a guy who...
Very nice! I do like that body style. First car I ever painted was my 70 1/2 SS which I bought incomplete from a guy who had pieced a couple wrecked ones together. That was 1983. Built a 73 Camaro in 85 and have been without since. Keep wanting another one but have entirely too much crap as it is.
Yep this body style was always my favorite. I grew up in IL where muscle cars were king, but everyone and their brother had 60s Camaros, etc. The 70s stand out and are different. And Hugger Orange - I still do this day love the color (the car was originally white with black stripes - had it been all-original, I would have kept it white & black, but without the LT1, I felt I could do whatever I wanted).

I always thoughts I would build another car, but they're way too time consuming with a wife and two kids. Now all I want to do is ride my motorcycle and mountain bike with my extra time.
sclark309d 10/21/2014 12:05pm
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well, that does it, I looked at pics of garages on this thread, went out to look at the catastrophe I call a garage. Hopeless.

I decided to take a year off then quit.....

fantastic jobs fellas.

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sclark309d wrote:
well, that does it, I looked at pics of garages on this thread, went out to look at the catastrophe I call a garage. Hopeless. I...
well, that does it, I looked at pics of garages on this thread, went out to look at the catastrophe I call a garage. Hopeless.

I decided to take a year off then quit.....

fantastic jobs fellas.
Haha, I hear ya! We just moved into our new house so of course my garage and my shop is still filled with a bunch of crap I need to get rid of. I've been putting it off, but my dad just gave me a nice snap-on box that I need to get moved to my house. It's the kick in the pants I needed to get my shop in order, haha.
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sclark309d wrote:
well, that does it, I looked at pics of garages on this thread, went out to look at the catastrophe I call a garage. Hopeless. I...
well, that does it, I looked at pics of garages on this thread, went out to look at the catastrophe I call a garage. Hopeless.

I decided to take a year off then quit.....

fantastic jobs fellas.
We should compare pics.... I did some work on my KTM 950 Adventure. Turning sideways to get tools and putting everything I took off right into a box to go out into a shed. Pathetic .. I since have cleaned it a little. I don't have a storage problem it is more of a buying stuff problem.. Next home will be 3 car garage min...
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I'm getting ready to cover my 3-car garage floor with an epoxy finish. With my previous house I used the Rustoleum product from Home Depot, but...
I'm getting ready to cover my 3-car garage floor with an epoxy finish. With my previous house I used the Rustoleum product from Home Depot, but I want to go with a more high-end professional product this time around.

That said, what product did you use, how did it turn out, how has it held up, how was it applied?, etc.


Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I have had used Valspar Epoxy Paint in my garage for 5 years. I applied it nearly a year after the slab was poured.I have had zero issues with peeling, flaking or wear. We use this garage for vehicles every day and it probably doesn't get swept more than once or twice a month. 
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Newman, i pimch the shit out of tubes too. So i bought a baja no pinch. 3 heavy duty tunes more than pays for it. Buddies that are great at tires are ordering it now
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Camp332 wrote:
I don't have a Newmann style garage, but I'm working on this 14 X 20 workshop at my house simultaneous to getting an addition. Sealed the...
I don't have a Newmann style garage, but I'm working on this 14 X 20 workshop at my house simultaneous to getting an addition.

Sealed the wood floor with the Behr "DeckOver"


Then I saw all the great reviews on Garage Journal about RaceDeck, so I got it. I'm pumped on this floor so far.


Consider RaceDeck as an option for you.


Once our addition on the house is done I'll be able to button up my workshop with drywall, electric, TV, internet and all that good stuff.

My racedeck garage



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I did my three car with U-Coat It. And also did a topcoat with the gray tinted clear. Holding up well for ten years now. Still looks new. Wasn't cheap. About $600 in materials. Prep is easy.
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MxRyder 10/18/2016 6:16am
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Ebs wrote:
Look into having the concrete ground/polished as well. It comes out pretty nice. [img]http://www.liquidfloors.com/assets/Cocnrete-Polishing-20140319-2-1024x768.jpg[/img]
Look into having the concrete ground/polished as well. It comes out pretty nice.




KGAspeed wrote:
Agreed - I am thinking of this as well.
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I have a floor restoration business, I'm just south of you in LV. 1) What's your budget? 2) DO NOT use those home depot kits. Concrete...
I have a floor restoration business, I'm just south of you in LV. 1) What's your budget? 2) DO NOT use those home depot kits. Concrete polishing is expensive figure $6-$8 per sq ft easy. The good part about polishing, you really dont have to do anything again, no maintenance. The epoxy floors are nice with or without chips. Buy the product from a commercial supplier. Border is all over west coast, they sell all concrete supplies. There is a local supplier here in LV, Concrete Accessories that is very popular in the industry. They'll ship to you. Im in million dollar houses every day and theire stuff is used quite a bit and holds up well in the extreme heat. The only maintenance you'll have is a new clear coat in 5-10 years if you like your floor real shinny. Doing it yourself? Its all prep and patience. Clean it then take a sanding screen 80 grit, then acid wash, neutral clean, let it dry then do your kit steps, primer, base, color, chips, clear etc etc. Its not that difficult. Like mentioned, use sika flex for your joints, expensive, but good stuff. Im happy to help if you want to purchase through me at concrete accessories, prob save 10-15% off retail, nothing major for your project. For a 3 car garage, you got about $800 or so in product for GOOD stuff, not peel and stick home depot crap.
I also do highend homes.....and this guys is 110%correct all the so called garage floor kits from HomeDepot and Lowes are garbage...use the correct 2part epoxy finishes from commercial/industrial floor finishes......i do it to every house we flip or remodel........
Missing_Muffs 10/18/2016 6:36am
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KGAspeed wrote:
Agreed - I am thinking of this as well.
Rizzo wrote:
I have a floor restoration business, I'm just south of you in LV. 1) What's your budget? 2) DO NOT use those home depot kits. Concrete...
I have a floor restoration business, I'm just south of you in LV. 1) What's your budget? 2) DO NOT use those home depot kits. Concrete polishing is expensive figure $6-$8 per sq ft easy. The good part about polishing, you really dont have to do anything again, no maintenance. The epoxy floors are nice with or without chips. Buy the product from a commercial supplier. Border is all over west coast, they sell all concrete supplies. There is a local supplier here in LV, Concrete Accessories that is very popular in the industry. They'll ship to you. Im in million dollar houses every day and theire stuff is used quite a bit and holds up well in the extreme heat. The only maintenance you'll have is a new clear coat in 5-10 years if you like your floor real shinny. Doing it yourself? Its all prep and patience. Clean it then take a sanding screen 80 grit, then acid wash, neutral clean, let it dry then do your kit steps, primer, base, color, chips, clear etc etc. Its not that difficult. Like mentioned, use sika flex for your joints, expensive, but good stuff. Im happy to help if you want to purchase through me at concrete accessories, prob save 10-15% off retail, nothing major for your project. For a 3 car garage, you got about $800 or so in product for GOOD stuff, not peel and stick home depot crap.
MxRyder wrote:
I also do highend homes.....and this guys is 110%correct all the so called garage floor kits from HomeDepot and Lowes are garbage...use the correct 2part epoxy...
I also do highend homes.....and this guys is 110%correct all the so called garage floor kits from HomeDepot and Lowes are garbage...use the correct 2part epoxy finishes from commercial/industrial floor finishes......i do it to every house we flip or remodel........
say a fellow did use the home depot crap and it held up good for what little traffic was on it.
What if that same guy now will be running a business out of said garage and needs a much better/durable finish. how would he go about getting rid of the old stuff to put new stuff down? lots and lots of sanding?

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KGAspeed 10/18/2016 7:00am
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Missing_Muffs wrote:
say a fellow did use the home depot crap and it held up good for what little traffic was on it. What if that same guy...
say a fellow did use the home depot crap and it held up good for what little traffic was on it.
What if that same guy now will be running a business out of said garage and needs a much better/durable finish. how would he go about getting rid of the old stuff to put new stuff down? lots and lots of sanding?

No - proper prep (for an epoxy application) requires diamond-grinding. The diamond-grinding will rip off the previous coating, no matter what it is. Two birds, one stone. Grind to remove the Home Depot cheap Rustoleum product, and have a floor prepped for a better, more durable product at the same time.
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Armorseal 8100.
Moens_Andy 10/18/2016 7:12am
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I have done several PMMA resin floors when i was a self employee, i highly recommend that type of flooring.
Biggest advantages
* Is very viscous, i.e., very fluid. As a result, it is quick to apply
* Is highly UV-resistant
* Very fast drying
* The PPMA floor has a high resistance to chemicals and cleaning products
* Is resistant to water
These floors have a drying time of only two hours, which is incredibly short. The short drying time brings to you many advantages. When this is done, the stoppage in production halls is kept to a minimum. You can quickly resume your usual activities that take as little as possible of your time and within no time are again fully running. We notice that the PMMA floors much demanded by bakeries, butchers, Garage's of any kind and sanitary buildings.

The PMMA floor is a floor strewn mortar which is applied in thicknesses between 3 and 4 mm. The thickness is entirely dependent on the substrate. The floor consists of a colored sand, bound by the PMMA resin. The PMMA resin is obtained by polymerization of esters of acrylic acid or methacrylic acid, or combinations thereof.
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Missing_Muffs wrote:
say a fellow did use the home depot crap and it held up good for what little traffic was on it. What if that same guy...
say a fellow did use the home depot crap and it held up good for what little traffic was on it.
What if that same guy now will be running a business out of said garage and needs a much better/durable finish. how would he go about getting rid of the old stuff to put new stuff down? lots and lots of sanding?

KGAspeed wrote:
No - proper prep (for an epoxy application) requires diamond-grinding. The diamond-grinding will rip off the previous coating, no matter what it is. Two birds, one...
No - proper prep (for an epoxy application) requires diamond-grinding. The diamond-grinding will rip off the previous coating, no matter what it is. Two birds, one stone. Grind to remove the Home Depot cheap Rustoleum product, and have a floor prepped for a better, more durable product at the same time.
Sounds expensive. Can the equipment be rented?
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KGAspeed 10/18/2016 7:54am
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Yes you can, but you will still have to buy your own diamonds. Those are expensive too (they'll be $200-$300) for a set depending on how many the machine needs).

You're better off finding a flooring company in your area to grind it for you. That would probably be $1 per square foot.

Everything about epoxy flooring is expensive. But the process is very time consuming, and chemicals are pricey, even when purchased at volume. When done right, it will be very durable, look great and last years.

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Yes you can, but you will still have to buy your own diamonds. Those are expensive too (they'll be $200-$300) for a set depending on how...
Yes you can, but you will still have to buy your own diamonds. Those are expensive too (they'll be $200-$300) for a set depending on how many the machine needs).

You're better off finding a flooring company in your area to grind it for you. That would probably be $1 per square foot.

Everything about epoxy flooring is expensive. But the process is very time consuming, and chemicals are pricey, even when purchased at volume. When done right, it will be very durable, look great and last years.
Most of the good epoxies can't be purchased by anyone who walks into most paint stores. I have a lot of pissed off people leave my store when I let them know all the epoxies we have are for commercial accounts only. Though H&C just came out with a "retail" 2 part epoxy kit. Not sure how well it hold up.
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For anyone reading this and thinking about epoxy flooring, there are nearly unlimited companies out there that make a great industrial product. Do not put too much thought into what product to choose; just make sure it is a high-end industrial chemical produced by the company-itself (for lack of a better way to state the obvious).

The most important part: look for a company that has a distributor or product rep in your city. That is what you want. They can answer your questions, or direct you to a company that can install it for you. I know most of us on here are the DIY crowd, and you can certainly install it yourself, just be prepared to have a boat-load of questions, make a few mistakes along the way, and spend a lot of hours getting it done right.

(This thread is fairly old - I've since started a flooring business, more on the commercial side, and have learned quite a bit. If anyone has questions, feel free to post up).
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KGAspeed 10/18/2016 8:32am
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Jarid332 wrote:
Most of the good epoxies can't be purchased by anyone who walks into most paint stores. I have a lot of pissed off people leave my...
Most of the good epoxies can't be purchased by anyone who walks into most paint stores. I have a lot of pissed off people leave my store when I let them know all the epoxies we have are for commercial accounts only. Though H&C just came out with a "retail" 2 part epoxy kit. Not sure how well it hold up.
I wouldn't say "most". The product line I use is for commercial use only, but it's fairly easy to find a rep for this company, and I know my rep will sell to the public after a meeting with the customer.

There are quite a few you can find online that make a good product and like i said, the company I use has reps all over the US.
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I wouldn't say "most". The product line I use is for commercial use only, but it's fairly easy to find a rep for this company, and...
I wouldn't say "most". The product line I use is for commercial use only, but it's fairly easy to find a rep for this company, and I know my rep will sell to the public after a meeting with the customer.

There are quite a few you can find online that make a good product and like i said, the company I use has reps all over the US.
we're a little bit more restrictive up here in Canada. I know a lot of US SW's can all sort of different oil based coatings where up here we've restricted from bringing them up here.
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Rizzo wrote:
I have a floor restoration business, I'm just south of you in LV. 1) What's your budget? 2) DO NOT use those home depot kits. Concrete...
I have a floor restoration business, I'm just south of you in LV. 1) What's your budget? 2) DO NOT use those home depot kits. Concrete polishing is expensive figure $6-$8 per sq ft easy. The good part about polishing, you really dont have to do anything again, no maintenance. The epoxy floors are nice with or without chips. Buy the product from a commercial supplier. Border is all over west coast, they sell all concrete supplies. There is a local supplier here in LV, Concrete Accessories that is very popular in the industry. They'll ship to you. Im in million dollar houses every day and theire stuff is used quite a bit and holds up well in the extreme heat. The only maintenance you'll have is a new clear coat in 5-10 years if you like your floor real shinny. Doing it yourself? Its all prep and patience. Clean it then take a sanding screen 80 grit, then acid wash, neutral clean, let it dry then do your kit steps, primer, base, color, chips, clear etc etc. Its not that difficult. Like mentioned, use sika flex for your joints, expensive, but good stuff. Im happy to help if you want to purchase through me at concrete accessories, prob save 10-15% off retail, nothing major for your project. For a 3 car garage, you got about $800 or so in product for GOOD stuff, not peel and stick home depot crap.
MxRyder wrote:
I also do highend homes.....and this guys is 110%correct all the so called garage floor kits from HomeDepot and Lowes are garbage...use the correct 2part epoxy...
I also do highend homes.....and this guys is 110%correct all the so called garage floor kits from HomeDepot and Lowes are garbage...use the correct 2part epoxy finishes from commercial/industrial floor finishes......i do it to every house we flip or remodel........
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say a fellow did use the home depot crap and it held up good for what little traffic was on it. What if that same guy...
say a fellow did use the home depot crap and it held up good for what little traffic was on it.
What if that same guy now will be running a business out of said garage and needs a much better/durable finish. how would he go about getting rid of the old stuff to put new stuff down? lots and lots of sanding?

As long as the kit isnt peeling...the higher quality 2part commerical/industrial coatings should go down fine right over top....if its lifting and peeling....u can strip it or get orbital type sander and try to attack the areas in question....the higher end coatings are quite thick...and are self leveling....the HD/lowes stuff is really more like a paint......id try to get up any suspect areas....and do a small test area....let it dry for 48hours in a warmer temp....then park your car tire over that area to see if the orignal kit causes the quality one to lift and peel up on the tire.....if it does...then u will need to get your orignial coating removed from the concrete.......best of luck...hope the easier path works out for you .......SherwinWiiiiams makes a marine industrial kit called "(tileclad)"...its bullet proof...2 part epoxy...1 application with roller...throw on your colored speckles and the floor will.out last the home....its pretty affordable as well...1 kit per 2 car garage....u have about a 80mins to use the kit before it starts to set up....so have 1 person cut in the edges..and inbetween the expansion joints...and and roll out each section with a descent coating....dont saturate the areas as you will run short.........use a throw away bucket...roller..brush...let dry for 72hours......cement hard quality coating that will always look great......

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