Suzuki prototype RM125

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Built by cernics

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tempura 8/3/2016 4:07pm
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I don't know why they used an alloy frame on this build.
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adiaz791 8/3/2016 4:08pm
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BobPA wrote:
Built by cernics

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Just saw the other posting. I guess I am a little late to the party.
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HenryA 8/3/2016 4:08pm
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Yeah it was up earlier this week.Still a sweet build tho

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IceMan446 8/3/2016 4:16pm
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Keefer called it a month ago.

powertrip456 8/3/2016 4:36pm
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That thing is bad AF is all I know. One-off or not.
lostboy819 8/3/2016 4:47pm
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tempura wrote:
I don't know why they used an alloy frame on this build.
Why not, if they want them to sell its the right thing to do
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tempura 8/3/2016 4:55pm
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lostboy819 wrote:
Why not, if they want them to sell its the right thing to do
Why do you think an AF would sell more?
Admittedly, I haven't tested it... But I'm sure it's lost some of its feeling/handling traits with that frame. Think stiffness.
j. lee rolle 8/3/2016 4:58pm
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tempura wrote:
I don't know why they used an alloy frame on this build.
lostboy819 wrote:
Why not, if they want them to sell its the right thing to do
What if they sold a steely for $1,000 less?
lostboy819 8/3/2016 5:05pm
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Wont matter, why invest in building a new 125 if its going to be a old 125.
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MR. X 8/3/2016 5:09pm
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tempura wrote:
Why do you think an AF would sell more? Admittedly, I haven't tested it... But I'm sure it's lost some of its feeling/handling traits with that...
Why do you think an AF would sell more?
Admittedly, I haven't tested it... But I'm sure it's lost some of its feeling/handling traits with that frame. Think stiffness.
How could you be possibly SURE about the handling of a bike that doesn't exist?
Dirty Points 8/3/2016 5:14pm
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MR. X wrote:
How could you be possibly SURE about the handling of a bike that doesn't exist?
Just get over it. It handles like a yellow turd, Bro.
Sheriff245 8/3/2016 5:20pm
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tempura wrote:
I don't know why they used an alloy frame on this build.
lostboy819 wrote:
Why not, if they want them to sell its the right thing to do
j. lee rolle wrote:
What if they sold a steely for $1,000 less?
What if the AF was actually cheaper?
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tempura 8/3/2016 5:20pm
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MR. X wrote:
How could you be possibly SURE about the handling of a bike that doesn't exist?
well, I'm not sure. But it's likely, or a possibility, going on experience.
Dirty Points 8/3/2016 5:25pm
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tempura wrote:
I don't know why they used an alloy frame on this build.
Because it's a 2-stroke engine in a more modern RM-Z chassis build? And modern RM-Zs have aluminum frames...

It is what they wanted it to be.
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Seriously?

People think they've gone to the cost of retooling an ali-frame and bringing back a 125 when their actual race bikes are nearly a decade old...

The only thing more retarded than believing this is if Suzuki actually did it.
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tempura 8/3/2016 5:33pm
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Because it's a 2-stroke engine in a more modern RM-Z chassis build? And modern RM-Zs have aluminum frames...

It is what they wanted it to be.
Yeah, I get that..
It's been labelled a prototype, and I understand it's properly just a playful project to try spark some interest.
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tempura 8/3/2016 5:37pm
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Crush wrote:
Seriously? People think they've gone to the cost of retooling an ali-frame and bringing back a 125 when their actual race bikes are nearly a decade...
Seriously?

People think they've gone to the cost of retooling an ali-frame and bringing back a 125 when their actual race bikes are nearly a decade old...

The only thing more retarded than believing this is if Suzuki actually did it.
I don't think anyone here seriously believes that. It's not a prototype made by Suzuki.

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KazFu 8/3/2016 5:42pm
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Suzuki will never make this happen.
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JB 19 8/3/2016 5:51pm
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Crush wrote:
Seriously? People think they've gone to the cost of retooling an ali-frame and bringing back a 125 when their actual race bikes are nearly a decade...
Seriously?

People think they've gone to the cost of retooling an ali-frame and bringing back a 125 when their actual race bikes are nearly a decade old...

The only thing more retarded than believing this is if Suzuki actually did it.
Haha.....I'd say there is a 99% chance you're right.
j. lee rolle 8/3/2016 5:53pm
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What if the AF was actually cheaper?
I could be wrong but I don't see how it could be cheaper. A steel perimeter frame could be made with existing steel tube. Auto-bending/cutting, jigging, and welding a steel frame would be cheaper than building molds, casting, jigging and welding, no? And lighter, dare I say?
Might be a wash, I don't know. I also never really rode one but I don't imagine (steel)frame rigidity was an issue for the average 130-150lb 125 rider. Was it?
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Crush 8/3/2016 5:57pm
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Crush wrote:
Seriously? People think they've gone to the cost of retooling an ali-frame and bringing back a 125 when their actual race bikes are nearly a decade...
Seriously?

People think they've gone to the cost of retooling an ali-frame and bringing back a 125 when their actual race bikes are nearly a decade old...

The only thing more retarded than believing this is if Suzuki actually did it.
tempura wrote:
I don't think anyone here seriously believes that. It's not a prototype made by Suzuki.
You've clearly not seen these pics on social media.
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tempura 8/3/2016 6:22pm
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Crush wrote:
You've clearly not seen these pics on social media.
True, I haven't.. and from that angle, I can see where you're coming from..lol
Dirty Points 8/3/2016 6:41pm
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j. lee rolle wrote:
I could be wrong but I don't see how it could be cheaper. A steel perimeter frame could be made with existing steel tube. Auto-bending/cutting, jigging...
I could be wrong but I don't see how it could be cheaper. A steel perimeter frame could be made with existing steel tube. Auto-bending/cutting, jigging, and welding a steel frame would be cheaper than building molds, casting, jigging and welding, no? And lighter, dare I say?
Might be a wash, I don't know. I also never really rode one but I don't imagine (steel)frame rigidity was an issue for the average 130-150lb 125 rider. Was it?
They are selling complete, assembled shitty full suspension aluminum monocoque-style frame mountain bikes at WalMart for $89.
j. lee rolle 8/3/2016 7:14pm
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They are selling complete, assembled shitty full suspension aluminum monocoque-style frame mountain bikes at WalMart for $89.
...Built by skilled craftsmen using only the finest materials and a superior attention to detail for those that demand nothing but the best, I'm sure.
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hvaughn88 8/3/2016 7:17pm
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Dirty Points wrote:
They are selling complete, assembled shitty full suspension aluminum monocoque-style frame mountain bikes at WalMart for $89.
j. lee rolle wrote:
...Built by skilled craftsmen using only the finest materials and a superior attention to detail for those that demand nothing but the best, I'm sure.
yeah, I bet the linkage isn't even greased...
j. lee rolle 8/3/2016 7:18pm
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Oh, wait... This is Suzuki we're talking about...

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tempura 8/3/2016 7:28pm
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Dirty Points wrote:
They are selling complete, assembled shitty full suspension aluminum monocoque-style frame mountain bikes at WalMart for $89.
Please take that bike out on tough trail, then report back to us.lol
Not all manufacturing is equal.
Dirty Points 8/3/2016 7:53pm
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Dirty Points wrote:
They are selling complete, assembled shitty full suspension aluminum monocoque-style frame mountain bikes at WalMart for $89.
tempura wrote:
Please take that bike out on tough trail, then report back to us.lol
Not all manufacturing is equal.
I understand that. I wouldn't take an $89 steel full suspension bike on the trail either.

The point is we are not talking about any sort of exotic or difficult to work with material here. It's rolling daily out the doors of the crappiest, lowest tech, most unskilled sweatshops in the world.

Manufacturers can make cheap, crappy aluminum frames. Manufacturers can make cheap, crappy steel frames. They can make a nice, expensive aluminum frames. They can make a nice, expensive steel frames. Or anything in between. With sufficient quantity, there will not be a $1000 (or even $100) manufacturing gap between the two one way or another.
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tempura 8/3/2016 8:24pm
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I'd take a steel frame every time, on a dirt bike. It's preference. I'm sure there are many younger people among us that know nothing other than AF's on their dirt bikes, that is, unless they have a KTM or Husky.

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