Roczens 2nd healthy 450 outdoor season...

woody woodpecker 7/4/2016 6:53pm
7/4/2016 6:53pm
pilotdude wrote:
Dungey will never win another championship. Tomac will never win another championship. Roczen will win every championship he ever enters from now until he retires. Dungey...
Dungey will never win another championship.
Tomac will never win another championship.
Roczen will win every championship he ever enters from now until he retires.
Dungey will never win another moto.
Tomac will never win another moto.
Roczen will win every moto he ever enters from now until he retires.

Gosh I hopened I'm doing this right...I just want to fit in.

Pardon me while I puke.
crusty_xx wrote:
what the hell are you talking about
Looks like people gave too much credit to a non-American rider and someone got butt-flustered.
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CrGuy2T 7/4/2016 7:13pm
7/4/2016 7:13pm Edited Date/Time 7/4/2016 7:14pm
Why is it not ok for Roczen to have Eli covered this year? Why does everyone have every excuse in the world for their personal favorite rider to not be winning. It's ok for your guys to not be winning. If if if if if........
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Starcrossed 7/4/2016 8:09pm
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pilotdude wrote:
Dungey will never win another championship. Tomac will never win another championship. Roczen will win every championship he ever enters from now until he retires. Dungey...
Dungey will never win another championship.
Tomac will never win another championship.
Roczen will win every championship he ever enters from now until he retires.
Dungey will never win another moto.
Tomac will never win another moto.
Roczen will win every moto he ever enters from now until he retires.

Gosh I hopened I'm doing this right...I just want to fit in.

Pardon me while I puke.
crusty_xx wrote:
what the hell are you talking about
woody woodpecker wrote:
Looks like people gave too much credit to a non-American rider and someone got butt-flustered.
I think it's more of a satirical way of trying to say its a foolish concept. Kenny lined up for every moto, and all the guys are dealing with one injury or another, usually multiple. Yeah, Kenny is riding great and, barring catastrophe, will win his second outdoor 450 title, but I fail to see the point in making excuses for why he hasn't won every single title. Or you could say it's a creative and imaginative way of demonstrating a new level of fanboism. Fanboiism?
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kkawboy14 7/4/2016 8:12pm
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matze wrote:
..and hes on his way to his 2nd premier class title. Just came to my mind.. Pretty impressive tho.
NO, he's on his way to his 9th million $

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Jimmy_Sloan 7/4/2016 9:10pm
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woody woodpecker wrote:
Looks like people gave too much credit to a non-American rider and someone got butt-flustered.
That's what it comes down to with some of you, American or non-American. Too bad you missed pilotdude's point.
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mxmasta 7/5/2016 12:28am
7/5/2016 12:28am Edited Date/Time 7/5/2016 12:34am
pilotdude wrote:
Dungey will never win another championship. Tomac will never win another championship. Roczen will win every championship he ever enters from now until he retires. Dungey...
Dungey will never win another championship.
Tomac will never win another championship.
Roczen will win every championship he ever enters from now until he retires.
Dungey will never win another moto.
Tomac will never win another moto.
Roczen will win every moto he ever enters from now until he retires.

Gosh I hopened I'm doing this right...I just want to fit in.

Pardon me while I puke.
crusty_xx wrote:
what the hell are you talking about
It's just pilotdude, you can't take him serious! He has a history in overreacting in every thread he enters. Never saw a post of him that sounds positive or concurring.
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Sam954 7/5/2016 1:11am
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Eli need to be 100% fit to ride a bike like he does. He's not as smooth or technical as Roczen, he's using a lot more body strength to make a bike go wherewer he wants. A lot of people rides smaller bike like that and when they move to 450 they are in trouble and that's what i thought would happen to Eli too.... Well, last year he proved me wrong and it was simply amazing to watch how he attacks 35min moto on a 450.
There might be issues with bike setup, but i'm pretty sure that bigger problem right now is his shoulders.
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pilotdude 7/5/2016 9:40am
7/5/2016 9:40am Edited Date/Time 7/5/2016 9:45am
mxmasta wrote:
It's just pilotdude, you can't take him serious! He has a history in overreacting in every thread he enters. Never saw a post of him that...
It's just pilotdude, you can't take him serious! He has a history in overreacting in every thread he enters. Never saw a post of him that sounds positive or concurring.
And you, sir, are a fucking asshole. So there you go. Did I hurt your little feelers because Roczen is German? Awwww, I'm sooooo sooorrrry. Carry on with your circle jerk.
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mxmasta 7/5/2016 9:44am
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mxmasta wrote:
It's just pilotdude, you can't take him serious! He has a history in overreacting in every thread he enters. Never saw a post of him that...
It's just pilotdude, you can't take him serious! He has a history in overreacting in every thread he enters. Never saw a post of him that sounds positive or concurring.
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And you, sir, are a fucking asshole. So there you go. Did I hurt your little feelers because Roczen is German? Awwww, I'm sooooo sooorrrry. Carry...
And you, sir, are a fucking asshole. So there you go. Did I hurt your little feelers because Roczen is German? Awwww, I'm sooooo sooorrrry. Carry on with your circle jerk.
Thank you for approving my point.
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pilotdude 7/5/2016 9:49am
7/5/2016 9:49am Edited Date/Time 7/5/2016 10:09am
mxmasta wrote:
It's just pilotdude, you can't take him serious! He has a history in overreacting in every thread he enters. Never saw a post of him that...
It's just pilotdude, you can't take him serious! He has a history in overreacting in every thread he enters. Never saw a post of him that sounds positive or concurring.
pilotdude wrote:
And you, sir, are a fucking asshole. So there you go. Did I hurt your little feelers because Roczen is German? Awwww, I'm sooooo sooorrrry. Carry...
And you, sir, are a fucking asshole. So there you go. Did I hurt your little feelers because Roczen is German? Awwww, I'm sooooo sooorrrry. Carry on with your circle jerk.
mxmasta wrote:
Thank you for approving my point.
Right. Apparently only you have the right to speak negatively about others on this forum, but when someone responds in kind, it's "proving your point."

Hypocrite much?

In all seriousness MXMasta, I don't think you are a fucking asshole. You have every right to be extremely pumped on Roczen's success. There is no doubt that he is riding great right now and that the team finally has the bike dialed in the way he likes it, and that both of those are showing in the on-track results.

It's just that people on here (myself included) sometimes go overboard when a rider (any rider) shows some dominance, and then start sounding like idiots. I've been guilty of it myself. So I apologize if my non-PC way of expressing seemed a bit harsh.

And personally, as a military guy and student of history, I think Germany is pretty badass.

So there you go!
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Krallang 7/5/2016 10:43am
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matze wrote:
Last year? Kenny could barely walk at hangtown, looked way to stiff on the bike all season long. He was injured and the bike was way...
Last year? Kenny could barely walk at hangtown, looked way to stiff on the bike all season long. He was injured and the bike was way off. Speaking of this years sx season which jimmy ment i dont think it was the bike anymore, bad starts, to late of a charge and a very strong and consistent dungey got him.
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Do you think Eli's shoulders don't still bother him/are weak?. How do you know that Eli's bike "isn't way off" like Roczens last year? You can't...
Do you think Eli's shoulders don't still bother him/are weak?. How do you know that Eli's bike "isn't way off" like Roczens last year? You can't use excuses for KROC last year and then blow off what Eli is most likely going through this year at the same time. How about giving Eli the benefit of the doubt like you do KROC. They a both great riders, but KROC has a 1 year advantage on Eli right now is all. Hopefully they can get the bike working better for him by next year and hopefully Honda gets KROCS bike working for him quickly as well.
It more seems his results when he was blowing everyone's doors off were more of an outlier. His current results seem about right to me.

He's not doing bad.
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peelout 7/5/2016 3:29pm
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Roczen seems to have picked up the haters this season, i can't imagine if he was 12-0... people love to hate the guy that's winning, that's for sure

the best guy will win and right now, in 2016, it isn't even close.
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motomike137 7/5/2016 3:34pm
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peelout wrote:
Roczen seems to have picked up the haters this season, i can't imagine if he was 12-0... people love to hate the guy that's winning, that's...
Roczen seems to have picked up the haters this season, i can't imagine if he was 12-0... people love to hate the guy that's winning, that's for sure

the best guy will win and right now, in 2016, it isn't even close.
I don't see what's to hate. He is a super cool dude that right now is at least one of the two best riders in the world. He is poetry in motion right now on the bike.
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peelout 7/5/2016 3:53pm
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peelout wrote:
Roczen seems to have picked up the haters this season, i can't imagine if he was 12-0... people love to hate the guy that's winning, that's...
Roczen seems to have picked up the haters this season, i can't imagine if he was 12-0... people love to hate the guy that's winning, that's for sure

the best guy will win and right now, in 2016, it isn't even close.
motomike137 wrote:
I don't see what's to hate. He is a super cool dude that right now is at least one of the two best riders in the...
I don't see what's to hate. He is a super cool dude that right now is at least one of the two best riders in the world. He is poetry in motion right now on the bike.
i was watching RedBud this weekend and as soon as he passed Tomac, the camera was never on him again (maybe a couple times). got me thinking, how cool would it be to have an interactive selection like watching PGA Golf or The Masters. at least a few cameras are always on the leader, the rest on whatever the director wants to show, and you could pick which to watch. i know it would be very hard to do, but it would be awesome.

like you said, he's been poetry in motion through 12 motos so far
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motomike137 7/5/2016 4:14pm
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peelout wrote:
Roczen seems to have picked up the haters this season, i can't imagine if he was 12-0... people love to hate the guy that's winning, that's...
Roczen seems to have picked up the haters this season, i can't imagine if he was 12-0... people love to hate the guy that's winning, that's for sure

the best guy will win and right now, in 2016, it isn't even close.
motomike137 wrote:
I don't see what's to hate. He is a super cool dude that right now is at least one of the two best riders in the...
I don't see what's to hate. He is a super cool dude that right now is at least one of the two best riders in the world. He is poetry in motion right now on the bike.
peelout wrote:
i was watching RedBud this weekend and as soon as he passed Tomac, the camera was never on him again (maybe a couple times). got me...
i was watching RedBud this weekend and as soon as he passed Tomac, the camera was never on him again (maybe a couple times). got me thinking, how cool would it be to have an interactive selection like watching PGA Golf or The Masters. at least a few cameras are always on the leader, the rest on whatever the director wants to show, and you could pick which to watch. i know it would be very hard to do, but it would be awesome.

like you said, he's been poetry in motion through 12 motos so far
I really like that idea peely. I have always wished they would show us a minimum amount of laps of the leader whether he is yarding everybody or not. Think about how little we really got to watch RC when he was kicking everyone's ass. Thank god he and James had some battles because it was the only way we got to see much of either of them on TV. When someone is riding as brilliantly as Ken is right now I want to see it, thank god I was there in person Saturday because the dude is KILLING it right now!

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