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I plan to buy a new 2017 ktm 450 in about February in time for the start of race season. I will probably have to pay $13k for one..
In the meantime I will be looking for ( hopefully) a 2006 or newer YZ 250 2 t , for under $3k to use as a practice bike , haven't ridden for two years so I need to really put some work in.
I would probably keep the 2 banger and race it in the 250 class and use the ktm in the vets. Vets races are stupid short, I weigh 67 kg and I used to be very good at starts, but last time I was racing , I was never able to get a good start on my 250 2t against the 450's, they seem to get off of concrete starting pads a lot better. I'm thinking the ktm would be a real hole shot weapon for me..
Thing is I'm pretty sure I will find a good post 06 250 f for that money when the time comes, but I might be out of luck with the two stroke...would much rather race an old two stroke than an old four stroke in the 250 class
I've seen some really cheap 90s 2 strokes for less than $1000 in running condition. Last night there was an 04 RM250 for $500 in need of a rebuild. Was keen to get it but the seller message me at 3am to say the bike was sold (wtf?). I have seen other good deals, although they seem to be in Far North Queensland or W.A i.e. where few people live.
I have also bought a CRF450 for $1000 and sold for $2200. There are deals if you keep an eye out. You've gotta be quick. I got a CRF50 for $650 when they normally go for $1000, or $1500 used from a dealer. The only bikes I have bought that were over $2k were my CBR250RR and CBR600RR.
Keep an eye on Gumtree and eBay. I got one 125 off Gumtree and got another from eBay. The eBay bike was 2 states away but I was moving there soon so I had a mate get it for me ($100 his way for his service) and held onto it for me. Anyway, keep your eyes open and they will appear.
IMO Steel framed Yamaha bikes, some KX250s (early 2000s for some reason) and 98 CR250s are the cheapest bikes to be found. For 4 strokes, CRF250s and YZ250Fs seem to be the most common, but are also completely clapped out.
Oh, another bike. I bought a CRM250 for $900, spent $300 on it and didn't touch it for 3 years. Then I took it for an enduro ride and sold it for $1800 a week later.
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The YZ 250 two Stoke is an excellent bike and that's what I really want but I'm gonna stick to my 3 k budget so I'm gonna need to be lucky. There is a 2008 right now on gumtree for 3 k...owner says it's just had top and bottom end rebuild...I am suspicious but if I had the coin right now I'd be off to check it out for sure. It's in Melbourne.
It does seem that the cheaper bikes are in Queensland though.
On bike sales at the moment, a 2010 YZ 450 f , owner says it's only been ridden 3 times..I guess that justifies in his mind at least, the asking price of $10.5k. Very next ad down in order of dearest to cheapest, brand new 2016 yz450 f for $10k.
What kind of drugs are some of these people on? I mean really?
With the prices of old yzs I see I'll be throwing up my '13 ktm 250sx for 6k
But I'm starting to get it.....seems obvious that second hand four strokes are harder to sell...
Cut me some slack....I'm old and feeble minded! It's taking me a while to catch up here..
Versus the two strokes stopped being produced so a refreshed one is mostly on par with the brand new two stroke offerings.
Case in point, me personally I saved myself the hassle and went and got myself a brand new 2015 YZ250 rather than pick up a used bike and have to go through it. Albeit it's pretty much the same as an '06
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There is a 2008 YZ 250 on gumtree ( in Melbourne ) at the moment. Price has been coming down , it's now $3k .
I would go and have a look but I'm just not ready to buy yet, it's gonna be another month to six weeks ,so I've been spending a boring wet weekend searching the net for what's around
Looking for an 06 or newer YZ 250 for no more than 3k
Before I started looking I thought that would be a reasonable expectation , thought there would be plenty to choose from...been off bikes for about 2 years now so I'm totally not up with things.
I was just today looking at a 2001 yz250 that was a beater...Asking price $ 2800! Seriously! It's really been quite a revelation
Gonna stick to a $ 3 k maximum budget and a mimum age of 2006 model ( YZ 250 only )
The bike needs to be sound in the engine department, particularly the clutch. Not butchered by a brainless home mechanic and generally good order.
I want it to practice on, particularly long sessions on a rut track and figure 8's etc. just to get some skills working again, then either keep it and put some money into it and make it a viable 250 class race bike, or take whatever loss and sell it as is. Regardless I will buy a new bike in Feb next year to get back into racing in the open and vets classes. I'm planning on getting a ktm 450 2017 model
Never rebuild a 4 stroke but I would like to rebuild my 2014 CRF250 after this season.
Sold my bikes about 2 years ago....totally shitted of with the child minding / race scene , sitting around all weekend enduring junior class after junior class waiting for a poxy 5 min race...
Anyway all I do for fun now is sit on the couch , watch movies and drink beer...that's getting me ( and my liver ) absolutely nowhere ,so it's back to racing. Wanna be competetive in the over 40's vets in the northern regions and vics,start over again in c grade and see if I can get up to b grade...was in a grade back in 2001 but never tried to improve once I made it....more or less quit til 2011 and went racing again on a 144 yam and a 250. Actually won my first race back in the vets at tallangata 2 day and the next one at Myrtleford but then got hosed at the vics...got shitted off with the hassles with having to bring my own personal " corner marshal " to the races and being refused when I didn't have one and chucked it in again.
Got bored with riding on my own and sold my bikes a couple years ago.
There's my boring life story....you probably didn't really need to read that...
Anyway back racing for me and just as seriously as when I was 18....call it a mid life crisis
If a four stroke lunches itself and you throw a valve or cam chain...you can totally destroy the cylinder head ,in which case you bike might well be a write off....
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For example, at this moment, searching "250", the first bikes are:
1 - kx250- no year listed, but it's pre 1994. $2200.
2 - 2001 rm250. $2000. Not as bad, but still pretty high IMO.
3.- 2002 cr250. $2200. I guess not horrible, not good either.
4.- 1997 kx250 . $1600. No 4th gear, needs work.
5.- I would actually consider this if I wasn't leaving on a trip tomorrow. 2006 yz250 - $2100.
6.- 2000 rm250. $2000.
None of these bike make me say "wow, that is clean."
It continues like this, with some steep prices for old bikes and a decent bike here and there. I can understand the 05 and up YZ and RM prices being a little higher due to their popularity, but the other bikes have me scratching my head. I can't imagine they're getting many calls.
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