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Yall, "blue" "buffalo" "dog"
No!..I blame it on PBR, That shit is like no other beer. Makes you see and say things you really didn't mean...Whistling Blush Dry
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Using my decoder ring, I believe he's saying a mechanic made a gate girl cry then something with being late to get in the gate. Gate...
Using my decoder ring, I believe he's saying a mechanic made a gate girl cry then something with being late to get in the gate. Gate guy was not white and an N-bomb got dropped as well as a "suck my d". An empty case of PBR may or may not have been found in said mechanics tool box...

Feel free to correct my interpretation.
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pete24 5/29/2016 5:05pm
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how come no one asked mr info to not say what was in Davis locker?
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This thread is pointless without names and quotes. Man...the secrecy and behind the scenes bullshit that goes on in this sport is disgusting, and you wouldn't...
This thread is pointless without names and quotes. Man...the secrecy and behind the scenes bullshit that goes on in this sport is disgusting, and you wouldn't see it in many other legitimate sports.
On the other hand, some people don't know when to shut up.

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mxjon454 5/29/2016 5:33pm
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Blue buffalo yamaha was there or at least i saw Lamay #52 out there in the 450 motos with a blue baffalo/slater skins/yamaha. Can moss those big handlebar guards.
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GuyB 5/29/2016 5:36pm
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Blue buffalo yamaha was there or at least i saw Lamay #52 out there in the 450 motos with a blue baffalo/slater skins/yamaha. Can moss those...
Blue buffalo yamaha was there or at least i saw Lamay #52 out there in the 450 motos with a blue baffalo/slater skins/yamaha. Can moss those big handlebar guards.
As mentioned previously, the riders were allowed to stay. The BB team was given 20 minutes or so to pack up and leave the property. They did lose a couple hard cards, pending further review.

The 3D Racing team allowed the riders to pit under their tent for the day.
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I am not naming names but a small team owner with a big name sponsor was thrown out on Friday from the Glen Helen National for...
I am not naming names but a small team owner with a big name sponsor was thrown out on Friday from the Glen Helen National for making one of Glen Helen break into tears for actions the mechanic committed and then not 30 minutes late to gate security because he felt he was above the same rules as everyone else.
It then escalated to the team owner and mechanic making racial comment and sexual comments asking for services and then not stopping when security head came over and tried to quite the whole thing down without anyone leaving but the team owner would not stop and it led to them both being ejected, hard cards taken as well. Security did not punish the riders because they were not there and let them ride.
This will not be accepted at Glen Helen and DC said it will not be accepted at any National.
Probably went to a hooters after they got kicked out I bet.
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MxKing809 5/29/2016 5:36pm
5/29/2016 5:36pm Edited Date/Time 5/29/2016 5:38pm
Ok I'll try this again not quoting the picture that was clipped:

Dear Team involved and the guys from the team that post here,

Here's your chance. Spill the beans on the actual story and if your team fucked up, own it here and now and explain what you did to ensure it doesn't happen again. Face issues head on. Dodging the great Hooters incident of 2016 didn't work well last week for some green riders, and made the party involved look bad. Own your mistakes, and you'll be forgiven easier. So here's your chance, don't blow it.

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In all seriousness, the person who made the original post should be ashamed of their spelling, grammar, punctuation and inability to communicate a simple story in...
In all seriousness, the person who made the original post should be ashamed of their spelling, grammar, punctuation and inability to communicate a simple story in a straightforward way. The real crime in this story, happened in the education system.
Might be on a cell posting stuff.
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GuyB 5/29/2016 5:39pm
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MxKing809 wrote:
Ok I'll try this again not quoting the picture that was clipped: Dear Team involved and the guys from the team that post here, Here's your...
Ok I'll try this again not quoting the picture that was clipped:

Dear Team involved and the guys from the team that post here,

Here's your chance. Spill the beans on the actual story and if your team fucked up, own it here and now and explain what you did to ensure it doesn't happen again. Face issues head on. Dodging the great Hooters incident of 2016 didn't work well last week for some green riders, and made the party involved look bad. Own your mistakes, and you'll be forgiven easier. So here's your chance, don't blow it.

The pic wasn't clipped. I cleaned up some other posts, and it went out with the tide on those.



The Hooters thing was way overblown by the kangaroo court.
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MxKing809 5/29/2016 5:42pm
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MxKing809 wrote:
Ok I'll try this again not quoting the picture that was clipped: Dear Team involved and the guys from the team that post here, Here's your...
Ok I'll try this again not quoting the picture that was clipped:

Dear Team involved and the guys from the team that post here,

Here's your chance. Spill the beans on the actual story and if your team fucked up, own it here and now and explain what you did to ensure it doesn't happen again. Face issues head on. Dodging the great Hooters incident of 2016 didn't work well last week for some green riders, and made the party involved look bad. Own your mistakes, and you'll be forgiven easier. So here's your chance, don't blow it.

GuyB wrote:
The pic wasn't clipped. I cleaned up some other posts, and it went out with the tide on those. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/05/29/137158/s1200_4Q2A6504.jpg[/img] The Hooters thing was way overblown...
The pic wasn't clipped. I cleaned up some other posts, and it went out with the tide on those.



The Hooters thing was way overblown by the kangaroo court.
I agree, but the way the star rider involved bickered like a child on social media wasn't a good look either.... especially when the team ended up making it right in the end, validating the young woman claims
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Thanks for the info mr info. And who said this is not the place for this? If it's not on a moto board where n the hell would it be?

My god we spent days going over the tablecloth caper....this inconsiderate racial, women abusing crap should be good for several days of great entertainment. I am confident we will get some names within 24 hrs.

Last week it was abusing waitress abuse and now this. Nice to know the pits are inhabited by some real Dickheads! Maybe we should make them take etiquette classes before the season starts
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mxjon454 5/29/2016 5:43pm
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Was it the acutal team owner and mechanic? Or larry brooks and a mechanic? Crappy way to handle things and very unprofessional if everything stated is in fact true.
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colintrax 5/29/2016 5:44pm
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So who's the mechanic?
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Was it the acutal team owner and mechanic? Or larry brooks and a mechanic? Crappy way to handle things and very unprofessional if everything stated is...
Was it the acutal team owner and mechanic? Or larry brooks and a mechanic? Crappy way to handle things and very unprofessional if everything stated is in fact true.
It was NOT Larry.
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I was only there for the end but Mr. Info is correct in what happened, how it happened, and how it was ultimately resolved. Mr Alan Kent had every right to use his years of law enforcement to peacefully evict the team in question after something fairly simple escalated quickly. Hats off to Mr. Kent for then making an exception to allow the riders (who weren't even there at the time) back in to race, and also Bill Dill of 3-D Racing for offering all of his support complete strangers in a bind. (And Bill was there to offer help to Kade Klason when he had his strange day at GH last year.) The riders found other places to work from, but the rig was last seen at a nearby Wal-Mart...

And forgive Mr. Info for some poor early grammar, he worked his butt off out there for weeks to help make the event happen. Everyone did and that was a great big race, with a whole bunch of people lining the fences and packing the infield to enjoy seeing the best riders in the world all day long.

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MxKing809 5/29/2016 5:55pm
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DC wrote:
I was only there for the end but Mr. Info is correct in what happened, how it happened, and how it was ultimately resolved. Mr Alan...
I was only there for the end but Mr. Info is correct in what happened, how it happened, and how it was ultimately resolved. Mr Alan Kent had every right to use his years of law enforcement to peacefully evict the team in question after something fairly simple escalated quickly. Hats off to Mr. Kent for then making an exception to allow the riders (who weren't even there at the time) back in to race, and also Bill Dill of 3-D Racing for offering all of his support complete strangers in a bind. (And Bill was there to offer help to Kade Klason when he had his strange day at GH last year.) The riders found other places to work from, but the rig was last seen at a nearby Wal-Mart...

And forgive Mr. Info for some poor early grammar, he worked his butt off out there for weeks to help make the event happen. Everyone did and that was a great big race, with a whole bunch of people lining the fences and packing the infield to enjoy seeing the best riders in the world all day long.

DC
Has anyone seen DC's diploma?



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500guy 5/29/2016 6:06pm
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I just don't understand why when something like this happens it gets thrown out there but only with enough info for people to speculate.

Just report what is known, it's not so hard.

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DC 5/29/2016 6:10pm
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GangGreen, the riders are responsible for their pit crew, absolutely. But in this case, the riders weren't even at the track. And they are privateers. 100%. We chose to work out a fair peace so that the riders were not punished, other than having to find some place to pit... But there is room to use judgement on each of the points you posted above.

The riders were "subject to disqualification" and "detrimental action" put the riders "at risk of disqualification" but Jeff Canfield and myself, working with Mr. Kent, the head of security, and we mutually came to the conclusion that the riders were not involved in any way, shape or form and did not deserve disqualification.

How is it a joke that we helped two privateers stay and race? And Larry Brooks was also doing his best to help the riders, but he wasn't involved either. He was a voice of reason.

I like to think we would end up at the same place if it were James Stewart or Trey Canard or you, in that situation. What would you have done?

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Mr. Knobby wrote:
In all seriousness, the person who made the original post should be ashamed of their spelling, grammar, punctuation and inability to communicate a simple story in...
In all seriousness, the person who made the original post should be ashamed of their spelling, grammar, punctuation and inability to communicate a simple story in a straightforward way. The real crime in this story, happened in the education system.
I would say the worst crime in this story is the invention of slater skins.



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I would think we can count on one less sponsor next year. Dry
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colintrax 5/29/2016 6:16pm
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DC wrote:
GangGreen, the riders are responsible for their pit crew, absolutely. But in this case, the riders weren't even at the track. And they are privateers. 100%...
GangGreen, the riders are responsible for their pit crew, absolutely. But in this case, the riders weren't even at the track. And they are privateers. 100%. We chose to work out a fair peace so that the riders were not punished, other than having to find some place to pit... But there is room to use judgement on each of the points you posted above.

The riders were "subject to disqualification" and "detrimental action" put the riders "at risk of disqualification" but Jeff Canfield and myself, working with Mr. Kent, the head of security, and we mutually came to the conclusion that the riders were not involved in any way, shape or form and did not deserve disqualification.

How is it a joke that we helped two privateers stay and race? And Larry Brooks was also doing his best to help the riders, but he wasn't involved either. He was a voice of reason.

I like to think we would end up at the same place if it were James Stewart or Trey Canard or you, in that situation. What would you have done?

DC
DC looks like his comment got removed. I don't think too many, if anybody agrees with him. IMO the AMA, Glen Helen, you, did the right thing. Riders weren't involved nor could they have benefited in any way.
Where as Lazergate, it made sense to punish Mike because you could argue he'd benefit from his brothers action. It could have also been argued Mike encouraged that behavior. I doubt it, but it's a possibility. Doesn't make sense to punish the riders in EVERY situation, punishing the riders for a team members actions should be on a case to case basis.
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RonSkj 5/29/2016 6:17pm
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DC wrote:
GangGreen, the riders are responsible for their pit crew, absolutely. But in this case, the riders weren't even at the track. And they are privateers. 100%...
GangGreen, the riders are responsible for their pit crew, absolutely. But in this case, the riders weren't even at the track. And they are privateers. 100%. We chose to work out a fair peace so that the riders were not punished, other than having to find some place to pit... But there is room to use judgement on each of the points you posted above.

The riders were "subject to disqualification" and "detrimental action" put the riders "at risk of disqualification" but Jeff Canfield and myself, working with Mr. Kent, the head of security, and we mutually came to the conclusion that the riders were not involved in any way, shape or form and did not deserve disqualification.

How is it a joke that we helped two privateers stay and race? And Larry Brooks was also doing his best to help the riders, but he wasn't involved either. He was a voice of reason.

I like to think we would end up at the same place if it were James Stewart or Trey Canard or you, in that situation. What would you have done?

DC
How about if it were Mike Alessi "in the same place" ?
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GuyB 5/29/2016 6:18pm
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DC wrote:
GangGreen, the riders are responsible for their pit crew, absolutely. But in this case, the riders weren't even at the track. And they are privateers. 100%...
GangGreen, the riders are responsible for their pit crew, absolutely. But in this case, the riders weren't even at the track. And they are privateers. 100%. We chose to work out a fair peace so that the riders were not punished, other than having to find some place to pit... But there is room to use judgement on each of the points you posted above.

The riders were "subject to disqualification" and "detrimental action" put the riders "at risk of disqualification" but Jeff Canfield and myself, working with Mr. Kent, the head of security, and we mutually came to the conclusion that the riders were not involved in any way, shape or form and did not deserve disqualification.

How is it a joke that we helped two privateers stay and race? And Larry Brooks was also doing his best to help the riders, but he wasn't involved either. He was a voice of reason.

I like to think we would end up at the same place if it were James Stewart or Trey Canard or you, in that situation. What would you have done?

DC
Just in case anyone's wondering what happened, I thought ganggreen's premise was so ridiculous regarding privateers, I deleted it. Davey gave it a reply any way.
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colintrax 5/29/2016 6:21pm
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RonSkj wrote:
How about if it were Mike Alessi "in the same place" ?
Read my responce above yours.
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I would like to also mention that we didn't know any of this was going on until Michael Rigdon came to the media tent and told me and Jeff Canfield we had better come check it out. The Rock was concerned that what was happening would negatively affect not only the riders but the sponsors, but also knew that things were escalating in real time. By the time we got down there Mr. Kent had the situation until total control -- everyone was leaving -- but then reconsidered the plight of the riders that weren't even at the track and what it might mean to their careers. He obliged our suggestion to stick to his guns on throwing the team out but also allowing the uninvolved riders back in so they could compete.

So thanks to Michael Rigdon, not to mention Mr. Kent, I believe proper justice was served and the people who behaved badly were made to leave, and the riders who were not even there allowed to compete.

(And yes Guy B, go fly that drone!)

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RonSkj wrote:
How about if it were Mike Alessi "in the same place" ?
colintrax wrote:
Read my responce above yours.
I think we were typing at the same time.

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Video????
Lmao
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colintrax 5/29/2016 6:35pm
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RonSkj wrote:
I think we were typing at the same time.

Guess my fingers are quicker Laughing I was just telling you to scroll up in case you didn't notice we posted at roughly the same time.
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I would say the worst crime in this story is the invention of slater skins. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/05/29/137161/s1200_s1600_IMG_5144.jpg[/img]
I would say the worst crime in this story is the invention of slater skins.



Holy shit, that is by far the ugliest bike I've ever seen.

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