Fill in Riders For Team Suzuki

scott_nz 5/21/2016 11:05pm
5/21/2016 11:05pm
I think Cody's ride was pretty dam good, on a pretty basic bike, out of a van, much better than he rode at the USGP last year, and the des nations even, i dont think Waters would have done any better on similar equipment,
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block75 5/21/2016 11:19pm
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Waters wouldn't do any better has always been good on home soil but results lacked overseas
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Jimmy_Sloan 5/21/2016 11:27pm
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Tarz483 wrote:
Who is next in line
For a fill in Ride ?
My vote is for Larry Ward or RC (in that order).
Stoop 5/21/2016 11:29pm
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block75 wrote:
Waters wouldn't do any better has always been good on home soil but results lacked overseas
You talking about the same Todd Waters who fnished in the top 10 and podiumed a Mxgp last year?

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Phillip_Lamb 5/21/2016 11:31pm
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well if legitimate options....Weimer unless he's out, i think i read something about that. they could IF they wanted to pick out a few privateers on RMZ's like Nick Schmidt, austin Howell
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block75 5/21/2016 11:58pm
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block75 wrote:
Waters wouldn't do any better has always been good on home soil but results lacked overseas
Stoop wrote:
You talking about the same Todd Waters who fnished in the top 10 and podiumed a Mxgp last year?
Yes his results weren't what was expected by many desalt finished behind him that year by like 20 maybe 30 points due to injuries as did strijbos, he did get a pair of fourths 1 round for. 3rd I think overall but other than that one splash he was a top 10-15 guy and in the US GP he finished just outside the top 15 and that was only with about 5 US guys so I don't think he would do any better at all.
Stoop 5/22/2016 12:39am
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Waters wouldn't do any better has always been good on home soil but results lacked overseas
Stoop wrote:
You talking about the same Todd Waters who fnished in the top 10 and podiumed a Mxgp last year?
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Yes his results weren't what was expected by many desalt finished behind him that year by like 20 maybe 30 points due to injuries as did...
Yes his results weren't what was expected by many desalt finished behind him that year by like 20 maybe 30 points due to injuries as did strijbos, he did get a pair of fourths 1 round for. 3rd I think overall but other than that one splash he was a top 10-15 guy and in the US GP he finished just outside the top 15 and that was only with about 5 US guys so I don't think he would do any better at all.
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Flynn842 5/22/2016 12:46am
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I'd like to see Schmidt, he's made more sx mains than both guys in 16 and will probably do the same in mx. Js is a liability. I get nervous watching him race, I'm always prepping for the next crash.
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Jrewing 5/22/2016 1:06am
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Cooper has ridden a Suzuki plenty.

Noren is equally solid. It'd be a good fill
KiwiBermRailer 5/22/2016 2:07am
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scott_nz wrote:
I think Cody's ride was pretty dam good, on a pretty basic bike, out of a van, much better than he rode at the USGP last...
I think Cody's ride was pretty dam good, on a pretty basic bike, out of a van, much better than he rode at the USGP last year, and the des nations even, i dont think Waters would have done any better on similar equipment,
I agree. People don't realise that it's hard to run up front with stock gear.

For us a factory or stock bike would make F all difference. For a pro it's huge.

Get Cooper on a factory Suzuki and give him a few rounds and watch out. You all remember him running 2nd to Bubba when he was with JGR...

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block75 5/22/2016 2:42am
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Stoop wrote:
you have no idea
i can not see him being a top 15 in the states and obviously neither do any of the teams as I believe he did a bit of shopping around for a team when ferris went over there and before he came back home but no one either willing to pay or offer a ride to him. Well seems you know more than everyone here Who in the top 20 do you think he will beat constantly besides cooper then?
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Feldspar 5/22/2016 4:24am
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Matthes if you say Kyle Chisholm like you always do when a factory rider goes down, I will never listen to your content again! Ok that's a lie, I will still listen.
rawmetalmedia 5/22/2016 4:48am
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Jrewing wrote:
Cooper has ridden a Suzuki plenty.

Noren is equally solid. It'd be a good fill
I think Noren is in too deep eith Honda but otherwise he'd put in solid rides on the yosh zook for sure
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My pick would immediately be Metcalfe but he is signed in Canada I think.

So I guess 1 could go to Tanel Leok. Fully privateer this year and top 10 in MXGP with a stock KTM. He is around the top 10 since forever in MXGP, since at least 11 or 12 seasons. A serious rider. He also knows the factory zook as he rode for Geboers in 2012. I see nobody as fast as him that could be looking for a ride.

Then I dont know, some ideas in this thread may be better than what I would say. It is a very very difficult year to pick a fill in rider since this season to crack the top 15-20 is already quite a win. Lots of top riders navigating the top 10 top 20 zone.

Edit ; seing Grant doing well, is Josh Hill fit right now ? He could be in this top 10-top 20 zone I believe. I am still amazed at how fast/stacked the 450 class is this year.

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Mr. Info wrote:
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^^hands down the best choice, just don't know if that's possible contractually.
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ML512 5/22/2016 8:58am
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I'll start off the why nots...

Fill-in riders as a whole: Yoshimura Suzuki doesn't have a large outside-title sponsor, so it doesn't seem like they're required to race... thus no need for fill-ins.

I was told yesterday, that Blake's initial plan is to have his collarbone plated asap (probably Monday morning) and race Colorado.... meaning he'll only miss Glen Helen.

Other riders...

Josh Hill: Full-time job for Monster right now, just rides for fun.

Ronnie Stewart: Ronnie also suffered a shoulder injury yesterday.... plus, his team is built around him, he needs to stay put.

Freddy Noren: Freddy is Honda's test/development rider for the race team, and is getting hand me downs for his current program and Rocky Mountain ATV/MC... Such as works suspension and some other items.

Ben Townly: I don't even need to explain that one...

Nick Schmidt: Nick didn't even race Hangtown... He's quite good in Supercross, but not as good in Outdoors...

Malcolm Stewart: Even though Malcolm isn't racing Outdoors for Geico, he's still contracted to the team.

Todd Waters: He's racing in Australia for the new Suzuki team there, correct? Yoshimura Suzuki doesn't need to have fill-in riders, so there's no reason to steal from another Suzuki team.

Jimmy Albertson: Jimmy has his own team...

To wrap it up... Since Blake Baggett will likely only miss one week of racing, I doubt there will be any fill-in riders at Yoshimura Suzuki.
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cheers_22 5/22/2016 11:16am
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They already have budgeted to run through outdoors so why not put someone on them. I would want the bikes out there even if it means hiring young guns to fill the positions. Give someone a chance to ride the bikes.
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daemon616 wrote:
Kawasaki looking like a genius after dropping JS like a bad habit.
BangingBars wrote:
Yeah your totally right....not. Lets be a little more relevant why don't we.
Yeah they sure did win a lot last year, huh? Great post reply. Billy Madison debate comes to mind here...we are all now dumber....
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So basically Tanel Leok to fill in for JS7 is not that out of mind.
scott_nz 5/22/2016 12:02pm
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scott_nz wrote:
I think Cody's ride was pretty dam good, on a pretty basic bike, out of a van, much better than he rode at the USGP last...
I think Cody's ride was pretty dam good, on a pretty basic bike, out of a van, much better than he rode at the USGP last year, and the des nations even, i dont think Waters would have done any better on similar equipment,
KiwiBermRailer wrote:
I agree. People don't realise that it's hard to run up front with stock gear. For us a factory or stock bike would make F all...
I agree. People don't realise that it's hard to run up front with stock gear.

For us a factory or stock bike would make F all difference. For a pro it's huge.

Get Cooper on a factory Suzuki and give him a few rounds and watch out. You all remember him running 2nd to Bubba when he was with JGR...

he was on a Suzuki City RMZ450 when he did that, the next year i think he got 1 podium outdoors on the JGR bike,
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Jrewing 5/22/2016 3:00pm
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ML512 wrote:
I'll start off the why nots... Fill-in riders as a whole: Yoshimura Suzuki doesn't have a large outside-title sponsor, so it doesn't seem like they're required...
I'll start off the why nots...

Fill-in riders as a whole: Yoshimura Suzuki doesn't have a large outside-title sponsor, so it doesn't seem like they're required to race... thus no need for fill-ins.

I was told yesterday, that Blake's initial plan is to have his collarbone plated asap (probably Monday morning) and race Colorado.... meaning he'll only miss Glen Helen.

Other riders...

Josh Hill: Full-time job for Monster right now, just rides for fun.

Ronnie Stewart: Ronnie also suffered a shoulder injury yesterday.... plus, his team is built around him, he needs to stay put.

Freddy Noren: Freddy is Honda's test/development rider for the race team, and is getting hand me downs for his current program and Rocky Mountain ATV/MC... Such as works suspension and some other items.

Ben Townly: I don't even need to explain that one...

Nick Schmidt: Nick didn't even race Hangtown... He's quite good in Supercross, but not as good in Outdoors...

Malcolm Stewart: Even though Malcolm isn't racing Outdoors for Geico, he's still contracted to the team.

Todd Waters: He's racing in Australia for the new Suzuki team there, correct? Yoshimura Suzuki doesn't need to have fill-in riders, so there's no reason to steal from another Suzuki team.

Jimmy Albertson: Jimmy has his own team...

To wrap it up... Since Blake Baggett will likely only miss one week of racing, I doubt there will be any fill-in riders at Yoshimura Suzuki.
Cody cooper? Left that one out- top privateer. He'd go top ten on the Suzuki
Richard Tease II 5/22/2016 3:57pm
5/22/2016 3:57pm
And here's why Suzuki don't have a title sponsor they have the most marketable man in the sport probably the fastest ever and they can't get a title sponsor. Why would you sponsor a team that can't field its riders.
StartedTooLate 5/22/2016 4:19pm
5/22/2016 4:19pm Edited Date/Time 5/22/2016 4:20pm
This is a FACTORY team with no outside sponsor obligations. They will park it till Blake comes back.

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