So Byrne gets his doors blown off by an old man ?

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MXR 8/30/2009 6:46am
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500guy wrote:
Yup there's a Factory ride for someone in the future.

Just not him
Motodude wrote:
What sort of bullshit topic heading is this Jay???
Byrner faded faster than cheap medication .
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mccread 8/30/2009 6:51am
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500guy wrote:
Yes

everyone should be embarrassed. I could buy a top 10 by Dowd but 3rd OA ? The Sport needs a serious readjustment.
too much focus on supercoss in the states dowd is an old school motocross rider from the east. Would he have got 3rd in lierop? I dont think so. Although Dowd is amazing he deserves all he gets hard working old fashioned american motocross hero.
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500guy wrote:
Yup there's a Factory ride for someone in the future.

Just not him
Motodude wrote:
What sort of bullshit topic heading is this Jay???
MXR wrote:
Byrner faded faster than cheap medication .
Ya know in past years he has, since coming back after the Bubba Daytona SX incident he's really put on the speed.
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Huckster 8/30/2009 9:16am
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500guy wrote:
Yes

everyone should be embarrassed. I could buy a top 10 by Dowd but 3rd OA ? The Sport needs a serious readjustment.
mccread wrote:
too much focus on supercoss in the states dowd is an old school motocross rider from the east. Would he have got 3rd in lierop? I...
too much focus on supercoss in the states dowd is an old school motocross rider from the east. Would he have got 3rd in lierop? I dont think so. Although Dowd is amazing he deserves all he gets hard working old fashioned american motocross hero.
Your boy Calimaro, who I believe won Lierop, came over here and couldn't even finish two motos at southwick.......

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Devil1nNj 8/30/2009 9:42am
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I have never been to an Am race at Southwick without John Dowd racing there, same with Marshall.

But who cares if they can kill their backyard track. The point that Jay is fishing with is a viable one. Someone needs to add up the dollar amounts on the racers salaries that Dowd beat, at 44, and give us a fun fact to store in the warehouse of useless information.

It's racing and anything can happen, but, I doubt Chaplin Kawi, and Johndowdracing.com (i think) invested anywhere near what 70% of the teams there did. Only to have the 3rd overall finish of the day be the highlight. (no disrespect to MG, that was great to see)

It's not just moto, it's everywhere. Hard work is not the norm. Many feel they are owed something simply for existing.
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mccread 8/30/2009 10:24am
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500guy wrote:
Yes

everyone should be embarrassed. I could buy a top 10 by Dowd but 3rd OA ? The Sport needs a serious readjustment.
mccread wrote:
too much focus on supercoss in the states dowd is an old school motocross rider from the east. Would he have got 3rd in lierop? I...
too much focus on supercoss in the states dowd is an old school motocross rider from the east. Would he have got 3rd in lierop? I dont think so. Although Dowd is amazing he deserves all he gets hard working old fashioned american motocross hero.
Huckster wrote:
Your boy Calimaro, who I believe won Lierop, came over here and couldn't even finish two motos at southwick.......
De Dycker won leirop this year.... would Dowd have been 3rd today? i dont think so.
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500guy wrote:
Yes

everyone should be embarrassed. I could buy a top 10 by Dowd but 3rd OA ? The Sport needs a serious readjustment.
and windham only got what 20th in his 250/125 ride a couple weeks ago? man the lights riders have to be anxious to get into the 450 class next year and smoke everyone.
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Huckster 8/30/2009 10:30am
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too much focus on supercoss in the states dowd is an old school motocross rider from the east. Would he have got 3rd in lierop? I...
too much focus on supercoss in the states dowd is an old school motocross rider from the east. Would he have got 3rd in lierop? I dont think so. Although Dowd is amazing he deserves all he gets hard working old fashioned american motocross hero.
Huckster wrote:
Your boy Calimaro, who I believe won Lierop, came over here and couldn't even finish two motos at southwick.......
mccread wrote:
De Dycker won leirop this year.... would Dowd have been 3rd today? i dont think so.
and DyDecker would not podium at southwick.........
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BobbyM 8/30/2009 11:16am
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The speeds are different today Booby. And the track wasn't dusty hardpack freeway with rolllers. Dowd is who I root for everytime he lines up no...
The speeds are different today Booby.

And the track wasn't dusty hardpack freeway with rolllers.

Dowd is who I root for everytime he lines up no matter where but let's not rip the guy's he beat's.

Dr. Mark nailed it.
you don't know me and you don't know what we raced either. you base yer stupid observations on one lame ass hangtown track. fact is the old hangtown plymouth track makes southwick look like a lesbiam quad track...modern days or not.
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Crash82 8/30/2009 11:47am
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killerdwarf wrote:
44 yrs. old and able to ride a 45 minute moto at the front of the pack is simply amazing. Doing it at a pro level...
44 yrs. old and able to ride a 45 minute moto at the front of the pack is simply amazing. Doing it at a pro level, and in the sand is fucking astonishing! GREAT JOB JYD!
Ya I was was pretty stoked for him, he kicked ass, I really enjoyed seeing that, thanks John Dowd.
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BobbyM 8/30/2009 11:58am
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It don't matter if Southwick is his home track and that he always rides great there. The guy is44 years old, and this is nothing short...
It don't matter if Southwick is his home track and that he always rides great there.

The guy is44 years old, and this is nothing short of amazing.
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Absolutely!!! You're right it is amazing. But there is no coincidence that he chose THIS race to race. Southwick is one in its own a "specialty"...
Absolutely!!! You're right it is amazing. But there is no coincidence that he chose THIS race to race.

Southwick is one in its own a "specialty" track if you will and he is truly a specialist at this race.
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OK, If 44 y/o isn't old enough, lets say he does this again when he's 50. Will you give him more credit then him just being...
OK, If 44 y/o isn't old enough, lets say he does this again when he's 50.

Will you give him more credit then him just being a specialist at Southwick?



i agree dad, dowd could probably put it in the top 10 or 15 at every track imho.
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BobbyM 8/30/2009 12:01pm
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500guy wrote:
You win, I'm done. You so smart we so dumb , sorry massa
BobbyM wrote:
jay is right...most of these pooseys racing today wouldn't last a fucking minute over 40 in a 45. that is a fact. there are a few...
jay is right...most of these pooseys racing today wouldn't last a fucking minute over 40 in a 45. that is a fact.

there are a few badass's...there are a few more fuckass's. look around...tedesco blows ass...short needs to grow some balls. hill needs to quit quitting, hepler needs...well fuck who knows what he needs.

sure these guys..all these guys racing are great...to a fat fuck like me and jay but to the sport many are a fucking disgrace..jlaw leads the fucking sorry ass pack. i might add.

i love motocross none the less
Shimokitazawa wrote:
the 450 class is a joke and has been for quite a long time.
only because james and mike and ryan aren't racing
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BobbyM 8/30/2009 12:02pm
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killerdwarf wrote:
44 yrs. old and able to ride a 45 minute moto at the front of the pack is simply amazing. Doing it at a pro level...
44 yrs. old and able to ride a 45 minute moto at the front of the pack is simply amazing. Doing it at a pro level, and in the sand is fucking astonishing! GREAT JOB JYD!
45 minutes??...roll another one.
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Junkyard Rocks!!!
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mccread 8/30/2009 12:54pm
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Huckster wrote:
Your boy Calimaro, who I believe won Lierop, came over here and couldn't even finish two motos at southwick.......
mccread wrote:
De Dycker won leirop this year.... would Dowd have been 3rd today? i dont think so.
Huckster wrote:
and DyDecker would not podium at southwick.........
this year? ha ha ha he would have smoked them - Swanepole was 10th today btw....
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Nerd 8/30/2009 1:41pm
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All anyone needs to know about Dowd and Southwick you know by looking at last year's results. Dowd showed up at Unadilla and went 19-33 for...
All anyone needs to know about Dowd and Southwick you know by looking at last year's results. Dowd showed up at Unadilla and went 19-33 for 27th overall.

Then, only a month later (and three rounds later), he went 9-5 for sixth overall at Southwick.

That's the story. Very simple.
Huckster wrote:
Yes, he may be considered a "southwick specialist" now that he is in his 40's but lets not forget the guy ran up front and won...
Yes, he may be considered a "southwick specialist" now that he is in his 40's but lets not forget the guy ran up front and won at different tracks during his career. John Dowd is a very talented motocross rider, regardless of his age. He won both a Lites SX title and a 250 SX race. He also was runner up several times in the Outdoor Nationals.

To discredit his accomplishment this weekend is very disrespectfull of his talent. To get beat by him is nothing to be embarrassed by.
I'm talking about current times, not 10 years ago. I'm not discrediting his accomplishment. Race results don't lie. But it's a fact that he can only do that at Southwick today.

It's still completely astonishing. It's just a skewed bar by which to judge the other riders he beats at Southwick.
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mccread wrote:
De Dycker won leirop this year.... would Dowd have been 3rd today? i dont think so.
Huckster wrote:
and DyDecker would not podium at southwick.........
mccread wrote:
this year? ha ha ha he would have smoked them - Swanepole was 10th today btw....
You're comparing Unadilla (hard-pack, rocky track) where Swanepoel rode for Monster Energy Kawasaki to a sand track? On top of that, he ran as high as third in the first moto before a fall this weekend.

Swanepoel is a good rider, but you're comparing apples to oranges.

Look at Swanepoel's results at tracks more similar to Unadilla, like Portugal, Spain or Czech Republic, and his results are pretty consistent with Unadilla, where he was arguably on superior equipment.
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andymoto 8/30/2009 2:42pm
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Think 30+ years ago, for the bikes there was none of the tech today and 440 or 465s with powerbands as wide as spaghetti; this was rough and got even rougher. This is a local race; note how rough; I forgot for those, put yer glasses on.

Oh...no tractors either smoothing out jack like yesterday and other races. Think you just can't compare eras....like the '83 Caddie to the '09.. geepers. And 45 mins on those bikes that were NOT '09 Caddie smooth life todays bikes....that when it was 80%+ rider hangin' on those things; todays bike does way more work for ya....

Sorry off subject. Dowd is a freak of nature and one if not the best ambassadors of MX with pal Doug Henry and others........Nothing po's me than to disrespect the past because there would be no future if there weren't no past.



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BobbyM 8/30/2009 8:52pm
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hangtown 74-78 was the roughest track in america...still is. not one mufuckder will argue that if they were there.
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knowitallnovice 8/30/2009 9:28pm
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The speeds are different today Booby. And the track wasn't dusty hardpack freeway with rolllers. Dowd is who I root for everytime he lines up no...
The speeds are different today Booby.

And the track wasn't dusty hardpack freeway with rolllers.

Dowd is who I root for everytime he lines up no matter where but let's not rip the guy's he beat's.

Dr. Mark nailed it.
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you don't know me and you don't know what we raced either. you base yer stupid observations on one lame ass hangtown track. fact is the...
you don't know me and you don't know what we raced either. you base yer stupid observations on one lame ass hangtown track. fact is the old hangtown plymouth track makes southwick look like a lesbiam quad track...modern days or not.

sounds good.

i always wonder why they didn't just leave the suspensions alone on the modern bikes and save the cash?

silly japanese....always giving us luxuries we don't need.
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TG130 8/30/2009 9:39pm
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Anybody here have video/dvd copy of yesterday's race from SPEED ?
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mccread 8/31/2009 3:31am
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Huckster wrote:
and DyDecker would not podium at southwick.........
mccread wrote:
this year? ha ha ha he would have smoked them - Swanepole was 10th today btw....
Nerd wrote:
You're comparing Unadilla (hard-pack, rocky track) where Swanepoel rode for Monster Energy Kawasaki to a sand track? On top of that, he ran as high as...
You're comparing Unadilla (hard-pack, rocky track) where Swanepoel rode for Monster Energy Kawasaki to a sand track? On top of that, he ran as high as third in the first moto before a fall this weekend.

Swanepoel is a good rider, but you're comparing apples to oranges.

Look at Swanepoel's results at tracks more similar to Unadilla, like Portugal, Spain or Czech Republic, and his results are pretty consistent with Unadilla, where he was arguably on superior equipment.
Swanie lives in belgium he can ride sand....bottom line is the GPs are the deeper series this year.
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CR250Rider 8/31/2009 5:56am
8/31/2009 5:56am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 1:53am
All the factory "stars" prob hate/dread Southwick.


Even put the #1 guy on his ass

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