gas and oil...im confused...

supr_fly_tnt
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Edited Date/Time 1/25/2012 6:16pm
if gasoline comes from petroleum, what does oil prices have to do with gas prices? i was riding my bike yesterday and crossed over a warning sign of an underground petroleum gas line so it made me wonder...

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Larry
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3/17/2008 11:19am
petroleum Jelly makes it easier to accept our gas prices.
Racer92
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3/17/2008 11:22am
Is Astroglide from Iraq ?
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3/17/2008 11:23am
If you're asking about the price of natural gas vs oil/gasoline: The relationship is a little vauge, but there are some industrial complexes (power plants, chemical plants, etc) that can burn either natural gas or fuel oil (basically diesel) for boilers, turbines, etc. When oil prices get real high, they switch to natural gas, which raises the demand for natural gas and increases the price. Generally, natural gas prices start to decline about this time of year, but it hasn't happened much yet - that may be one small part of the reason.

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3/17/2008 12:00pm
Just mix your gas 32:1 with the oil.
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3/17/2008 1:53pm
just go straight to the source of gasoline. you know, gas trees and rivers.
3/17/2008 3:35pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:24pm
[quote="davis224":3ad8hgsg]just go straight to the source of gasoline. you know, gas trees and rivers.[/quote:3ad8hgsg]
I thought it came from corned beef and cabbage?
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3/17/2008 4:01pm
here is a barrel of oil...they cook it at this temp and get this gas...they up the temp and get this gas.....they up the temp and get diesel....to the final temp upping ends with tar!
3/17/2008 4:58pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:24pm
[quote="KAWboy14":2skop0w5]here is a barrel of oil...they cook it at this temp and get this gas...they up the temp and get this gas.....they up the temp and get diesel....to the final temp upping ends with tar![/quote:2skop0w5]

Yeah. And if you own all the cookers, you can pretty much price the output anywhere you want, no matter what the raw materials cost.
3/18/2008 12:48pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:24pm
[quote="KAWboy14":3j6rjoqf]here is a barrel of oil...they cook it at this temp and get this gas...they up the temp and get this gas.....they up the temp and get diesel....to the final temp upping ends with tar![/quote:3j6rjoqf]

I may be wrong but I think that's backwards. I was watching it on DC and it showed that the heating process shows different levels and the highest being jet fuel, then regular gas and near the bottom, diesel. Which is why I cant understand why diesel is so much higher.

Of course, I had a few drinks in me at the time so I may be mistaken.
3/18/2008 12:58pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:24pm
[quote="Larry":1rz2zvpq]petroleum Jelly makes it easier to accept our gas prices.[/quote:1rz2zvpq]


LMAO!! <img class= " title="Laughing">
3/18/2008 1:11pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:24pm
[quote="blankplate":gjj294p8][quote="KAWboy14":gjj294p8]here is a barrel of oil...they cook it at this temp and get this gas...they up the temp and get this gas.....they up the temp and get diesel....to the final temp upping ends with tar![/quote:gjj294p8]

I may be wrong but I think that's backwards. I was watching it on DC and it showed that the heating process shows different levels and the highest being jet fuel, then regular gas and near the bottom, diesel. Which is why I cant understand why diesel is so much higher.

Of course, I had a few drinks in me at the time so I may be mistaken.[/quote:gjj294p8]

It is a distillation process. The diesel and tar are near the end because they are heavier. Diesel is so high because of course we have a "new and improved" versions.

http://lincoln.pps.k12.or.us/lscheffler ... hapter.htm
3/18/2008 3:32pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:24pm
[quote="WORCSRACER":hka6jxk1][quote="blankplate":hka6jxk1][quote="KAWboy14":hka6jxk1]here is a barrel of oil...they cook it at this temp and get this gas...they up the temp and get this gas.....they up the temp and get diesel....to the final temp upping ends with tar![/quote:hka6jxk1]

I may be wrong but I think that's backwards. I was watching it on DC and it showed that the heating process shows different levels and the highest being jet fuel, then regular gas and near the bottom, diesel. Which is why I cant understand why diesel is so much higher.

Of course, I had a few drinks in me at the time so I may be mistaken.[/quote:hka6jxk1]

It is a distillation process. The diesel and tar are near the end because they are heavier. Diesel is so high because of course we have a "new and improved" versions.

http://lincoln.pps.k12.or.us/lscheffler ... hapter.htm[/quote:hka6jxk1]

Diesel is higher than gasoline because something like 80 percent of a barrel of oil is converted to gasoline. The rest makes diesel, jet fuel, grease, motor oil, etc..

As far as gas and oil prices, you have to remember this: there is a futures market for oil. People bid on the markets for the oil futures contracts, which the refiners then purchase for whatever the going rate is. (more bids=higher oil prices)
Then there is a gasoline futures market. Same principle applies. People bid on futures contracts for gasloline, which the distributors then buy, and sell to the gas stations. So you have two futures markets where investors are taking profits at both points in the process.

Normally, the prices of oil and gasoline are driven by the market pressures of supply and demand. However, at present, with the dollar free falling, investors are using oil and gas futures to hedge against inflation.

In short, lube up, because the rich man is screwing the poor man several times in the supply chain :cry:

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