Need advice on 2008 CRF450 engine mods

Joko
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Rebuilding the engine and would like a little more snap in low to mid, and top end where the power runs out of breath when trying to extend a gear without shifting on certain track sections. Thinking of going to a 13.5:1 piston for the low to mid improvement, then considering a Hotcams stage 2 cam for mid to top gain. Also, considering a 2006 head, since the exhaust valves are 1 mm larger for more top end, or wondering if a clean up on the 08 head ports would do?
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I had an 05, 06, and 07. Here is what I liked:
Stage 2's for more over-rev, spend the money on good Ti valves, run a high comp CP piston, keep the stock header and buy a Yosh or FMF slip on. Get a fuel screw and Rev up to and into the Rev limiter in 2nd or 3rd on the track and play with the fuel levels. Take the backfire screen out if there is one still in the filter cage, run 110 (cheap sunoco does the trick)
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2/17/2016 7:09pm Edited Date/Time 2/17/2016 7:09pm
You could also send your black box to Tokyo Mods
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MXA ran the stage 2 cam in their 2015 mod test of the 2008 and said it signed off a little too early. I assume they ran the stock head. Maybe with a bigger exhaust valve that would improve? They also mentioned on the carb, they cut the diaphragm to zero and wired the accelerator pump? What does that mean, what does it do and how to do it?
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2/18/2016 10:13am
Start with a high compression piston, U4.4 with a good carb tune, and full exhaust system. I think you'll be surprised how much that changes the power spread.

If you need even more.... a new cam (I like pro circuit for this model) matched up with some port work by a reputable builder.

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I had a 2007. Same engine. The 13.5 piston makes a really nice improvement in the low to mid pull. Bike still ran great on 91 pump fuel. If you need more over-rev you are a serious revver or ride really long wide open tracks. I always though the bike had plenty of over-rev. Could hold 3rd pretty long on some straights.

The 2008 has a gear position sensor that retards the ignition timing in 1st and 2nd gear to soften the power and lessen wheel spin. Many people disconnect it to get the 2007 snap back.

Wiring the accel pump on a 2008 CRF450 doesn't make sense because the 2007-2008 CRF450 essentially already have that done stock. Grinding the rivet on the diaphragm down also doesn't make sense because the carb has a zero-height rivet. The carb is different than the Keihin FCR on every other 4-stroke MX bike. Those mods actually sound like what you would do to a 2006 carb to essentially copy the 2007-2008 carb.

Carb info: http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/338687-2007-crf450r-carburetor-updates/

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Best motor mod I did to my 08 was head porting. The guy that ported it told me the intake port design of the 08 was one of the worst he had seen on any Honda. Took quite a bit of material out in order to straighten the flow to the valves.
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Is'nt the 2008 head the same as 2002-2008, with only a change in the exhaust valve size?
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13.5 with a hot cams stage 3, play with gearing it will rip.

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