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CarlinoJoeVideo 9/25/2015 7:44pm
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Did any one try rideengineering link!?I bought one and istalled today...going to ride tomorrow :-)Should I change compression and rebound ?!Not sure which way to go...stiff...
Did any one try rideengineering link!?I bought one and istalled today...going to ride tomorrow :-)Should I change compression and rebound ?!Not sure which way to go...stiff or soft.
Maybe try the compression as it is. But make sure you recheck your sag.
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Maverick498 9/25/2015 9:56pm
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Well, everyone, I got the Akrapovic yesterday and it was fitted today. The following pictures are not great, but I will be uploading better one's soon Smile Hope to get some opinions on it.















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Got my 16' 250sxf together today, this thing feels amazing



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Got my 16' 250sxf together today, this thing feels amazing [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/09/26/106233/s1200_wow.jpg[/img]
Got my 16' 250sxf together today, this thing feels amazing



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KTM 51 BARCIA 9/26/2015 6:27pm
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Damn man that bike is awesome!
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Maverick498 9/26/2015 7:28pm
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Damn man that bike is awesome!
They're all awesome! I'm looking for someone with an FMF slip on to do a test with!
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22Ryann 9/26/2015 10:59pm
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Thanks guys,

Got to ride it today and my word and im happy. Coming off a 15 Kawi, the power seems very comparable in bottom and top, mid range seems perhaps a little tamer but i was riding on very tackey soil today so that may have played a role. I think the slip on will help that though.

But man can i turn this much better then my previous 15' KX250f. Always seemed to stand up in the turns and generally not turn real well with the front on the kx, and this i seem to be able to put it anywhere. The fit and finish is well above the kx in my opinion having bought 2 of them new also new. The whole overall package im super impressed and happy with! cant wait to ride it again. haven't had that excitement feel for quite some time. Even seems easier to wash, airbox with the tool less entry is also badass. Super happy.

@maverick498 i have a FMF slip on coming, should help the mid range out.
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EcoSX478 9/27/2015 4:53pm
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Need your help guys. I just got a 2016 KTM 450SX-F. Today was my first time getting to ride it. Right off the bat I bought a pail of VP U4.4 fuel. I drained what fuel was in there from the dealer and put some U4.4 in there. I fired it up on the stand and let it run for 5-10 minutes to let the race fuel make its way throught. Still running on the stand it starting spewing out coolant from the clear radiator hose connected to the cap. I killed the engine right away.

I drained and refilled the coolant and then rode the bike around for 5-10 minutes with no coolant leaking but the radiators and engine are very hot after running the bike for a short period. I'm talking after running it from cold the radiator/engine will be very hot after 2-3 minutes of running.

I've read on here that you shouldn't leave modern 4-strokes idling for long or else they will do this. I also realize that I should have my ECU re-mapped for the U4.4 which I was going to have done this week.

Is what happened with the radiator spewing and the hot engine/radiator "normal" seeing as I left it idling for a little while and didn't get my ECU mapped?
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Need your help guys. I just got a 2016 KTM 450SX-F. Today was my first time getting to ride it. Right off the bat I bought...
Need your help guys. I just got a 2016 KTM 450SX-F. Today was my first time getting to ride it. Right off the bat I bought a pail of VP U4.4 fuel. I drained what fuel was in there from the dealer and put some U4.4 in there. I fired it up on the stand and let it run for 5-10 minutes to let the race fuel make its way throught. Still running on the stand it starting spewing out coolant from the clear radiator hose connected to the cap. I killed the engine right away.

I drained and refilled the coolant and then rode the bike around for 5-10 minutes with no coolant leaking but the radiators and engine are very hot after running the bike for a short period. I'm talking after running it from cold the radiator/engine will be very hot after 2-3 minutes of running.

I've read on here that you shouldn't leave modern 4-strokes idling for long or else they will do this. I also realize that I should have my ECU re-mapped for the U4.4 which I was going to have done this week.

Is what happened with the radiator spewing and the hot engine/radiator "normal" seeing as I left it idling for a little while and didn't get my ECU mapped?
Totally normal same thing happened with my factory edition 450. I though the coolant hose by the head touched and had a leak. They get really hot sitting on a stand with no air flow. I also tried the u4 and had it mapped for it but the best running fuel in that bike is by far the renegade sx4 which is around the same price. Much more power, starts better, and much crisper
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CarlinoJoeVideo 9/27/2015 5:24pm
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Need your help guys. I just got a 2016 KTM 450SX-F. Today was my first time getting to ride it. Right off the bat I bought...
Need your help guys. I just got a 2016 KTM 450SX-F. Today was my first time getting to ride it. Right off the bat I bought a pail of VP U4.4 fuel. I drained what fuel was in there from the dealer and put some U4.4 in there. I fired it up on the stand and let it run for 5-10 minutes to let the race fuel make its way throught. Still running on the stand it starting spewing out coolant from the clear radiator hose connected to the cap. I killed the engine right away.

I drained and refilled the coolant and then rode the bike around for 5-10 minutes with no coolant leaking but the radiators and engine are very hot after running the bike for a short period. I'm talking after running it from cold the radiator/engine will be very hot after 2-3 minutes of running.

I've read on here that you shouldn't leave modern 4-strokes idling for long or else they will do this. I also realize that I should have my ECU re-mapped for the U4.4 which I was going to have done this week.

Is what happened with the radiator spewing and the hot engine/radiator "normal" seeing as I left it idling for a little while and didn't get my ECU mapped?
Sounds like your bike just overheated. Normal if it sat there that long.

I don't think you need to remap for the new fuel, ride it and see how it feels. If your going to do a pipe or remove the filter cage screen. Wait till then for a remap.
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Ron_Shuler 9/27/2015 8:26pm
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EcoSX478 wrote:
Need your help guys. I just got a 2016 KTM 450SX-F. Today was my first time getting to ride it. Right off the bat I bought...
Need your help guys. I just got a 2016 KTM 450SX-F. Today was my first time getting to ride it. Right off the bat I bought a pail of VP U4.4 fuel. I drained what fuel was in there from the dealer and put some U4.4 in there. I fired it up on the stand and let it run for 5-10 minutes to let the race fuel make its way throught. Still running on the stand it starting spewing out coolant from the clear radiator hose connected to the cap. I killed the engine right away.

I drained and refilled the coolant and then rode the bike around for 5-10 minutes with no coolant leaking but the radiators and engine are very hot after running the bike for a short period. I'm talking after running it from cold the radiator/engine will be very hot after 2-3 minutes of running.

I've read on here that you shouldn't leave modern 4-strokes idling for long or else they will do this. I also realize that I should have my ECU re-mapped for the U4.4 which I was going to have done this week.

Is what happened with the radiator spewing and the hot engine/radiator "normal" seeing as I left it idling for a little while and didn't get my ECU mapped?
I've seen guys start their bike and let it run while they get dressed this is the worst thing you can do, these are RACE BIKES not cars even on a cold day you shouldn't do this. Start the bike let it run let it run if its a cold for a minute and go ride if there's no air going by the radiator the motor is not being cooled.
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Maverick498 9/27/2015 8:33pm
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22Ryann wrote:
Thanks guys, Got to ride it today and my word and im happy. Coming off a 15 Kawi, the power seems very comparable in bottom and...
Thanks guys,

Got to ride it today and my word and im happy. Coming off a 15 Kawi, the power seems very comparable in bottom and top, mid range seems perhaps a little tamer but i was riding on very tackey soil today so that may have played a role. I think the slip on will help that though.

But man can i turn this much better then my previous 15' KX250f. Always seemed to stand up in the turns and generally not turn real well with the front on the kx, and this i seem to be able to put it anywhere. The fit and finish is well above the kx in my opinion having bought 2 of them new also new. The whole overall package im super impressed and happy with! cant wait to ride it again. haven't had that excitement feel for quite some time. Even seems easier to wash, airbox with the tool less entry is also badass. Super happy.

@maverick498 i have a FMF slip on coming, should help the mid range out.
You'll have to hit me up with your impressions brother! I'll probably have a couple of guys in here ride my bike if I can coordinate it! that way we can get some different views!
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Maverick498 9/27/2015 8:35pm
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Need your help guys. I just got a 2016 KTM 450SX-F. Today was my first time getting to ride it. Right off the bat I bought...
Need your help guys. I just got a 2016 KTM 450SX-F. Today was my first time getting to ride it. Right off the bat I bought a pail of VP U4.4 fuel. I drained what fuel was in there from the dealer and put some U4.4 in there. I fired it up on the stand and let it run for 5-10 minutes to let the race fuel make its way throught. Still running on the stand it starting spewing out coolant from the clear radiator hose connected to the cap. I killed the engine right away.

I drained and refilled the coolant and then rode the bike around for 5-10 minutes with no coolant leaking but the radiators and engine are very hot after running the bike for a short period. I'm talking after running it from cold the radiator/engine will be very hot after 2-3 minutes of running.

I've read on here that you shouldn't leave modern 4-strokes idling for long or else they will do this. I also realize that I should have my ECU re-mapped for the U4.4 which I was going to have done this week.

Is what happened with the radiator spewing and the hot engine/radiator "normal" seeing as I left it idling for a little while and didn't get my ECU mapped?
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I've seen guys start their bike and let it run while they get dressed this is the worst thing you can do, these are RACE BIKES...
I've seen guys start their bike and let it run while they get dressed this is the worst thing you can do, these are RACE BIKES not cars even on a cold day you shouldn't do this. Start the bike let it run let it run if its a cold for a minute and go ride if there's no air going by the radiator the motor is not being cooled.
I agree with Ron! I had the same coolant issue and its just from the fact these bikes are like race bikes, they need very little time to warm up. When I had the coolant issue, I just cut the motor and fired when I needed to go. In other words, I have started running the T4 without an ECU map and it has been fine. I'm interested to see if my bike is going to need a re-map for the Akrapovic. I'm hoping there isn't too much decell pop.
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EcoSX478 9/27/2015 9:12pm
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Thanks for the quick feedback. It was pretty cold here today but I know better than to leave it at an idle for some time.

As for the U4.4. I had little decel pop with the stock exhuast. I'm picking up a slip-on shortly and I'm going with a remap just to be safe.
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EcoSX478 wrote:
Thanks for the quick feedback. It was pretty cold here today but I know better than to leave it at an idle for some time. As...
Thanks for the quick feedback. It was pretty cold here today but I know better than to leave it at an idle for some time.

As for the U4.4. I had little decel pop with the stock exhuast. I'm picking up a slip-on shortly and I'm going with a remap just to be safe.
I'm running Renegade SX4 in my FE450 & I had my ECU remapped by Tokyo Mods it worked great just as Justin at Tokyo said it would and then I ran out of Renegade and wasn't able to get any for a few wks so I bought 2, 5 gal cans of U4.4 and I noticed right away for some reason that my bike didn't like the U4. It began starting harder and not revving as clean as it did with the Renegade. I checked & then replaced the fuel filter and that wasn't it. I got my shipment of Renegade in and my bike is running great again. Starting with just a tap of the button and revving and running super clean again so it obviously was the U4.4 fuel.
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CarlinoJoeVideo 9/28/2015 12:01pm
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EcoSX478 wrote:
Thanks for the quick feedback. It was pretty cold here today but I know better than to leave it at an idle for some time. As...
Thanks for the quick feedback. It was pretty cold here today but I know better than to leave it at an idle for some time.

As for the U4.4. I had little decel pop with the stock exhuast. I'm picking up a slip-on shortly and I'm going with a remap just to be safe.
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I'm running Renegade SX4 in my FE450 & I had my ECU remapped by Tokyo Mods it worked great just as Justin at Tokyo said it...
I'm running Renegade SX4 in my FE450 & I had my ECU remapped by Tokyo Mods it worked great just as Justin at Tokyo said it would and then I ran out of Renegade and wasn't able to get any for a few wks so I bought 2, 5 gal cans of U4.4 and I noticed right away for some reason that my bike didn't like the U4. It began starting harder and not revving as clean as it did with the Renegade. I checked & then replaced the fuel filter and that wasn't it. I got my shipment of Renegade in and my bike is running great again. Starting with just a tap of the button and revving and running super clean again so it obviously was the U4.4 fuel.
What's the price difference from SX4 to u4.4? Do you worry about leaving that fuel in the tank if you don't ride for a week or is it ok?
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Digger29 9/28/2015 12:31pm
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EcoSX478 wrote:
Thanks for the quick feedback. It was pretty cold here today but I know better than to leave it at an idle for some time. As...
Thanks for the quick feedback. It was pretty cold here today but I know better than to leave it at an idle for some time.

As for the U4.4. I had little decel pop with the stock exhuast. I'm picking up a slip-on shortly and I'm going with a remap just to be safe.
Digger29 wrote:
I'm running Renegade SX4 in my FE450 & I had my ECU remapped by Tokyo Mods it worked great just as Justin at Tokyo said it...
I'm running Renegade SX4 in my FE450 & I had my ECU remapped by Tokyo Mods it worked great just as Justin at Tokyo said it would and then I ran out of Renegade and wasn't able to get any for a few wks so I bought 2, 5 gal cans of U4.4 and I noticed right away for some reason that my bike didn't like the U4. It began starting harder and not revving as clean as it did with the Renegade. I checked & then replaced the fuel filter and that wasn't it. I got my shipment of Renegade in and my bike is running great again. Starting with just a tap of the button and revving and running super clean again so it obviously was the U4.4 fuel.
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What's the price difference from SX4 to u4.4? Do you worry about leaving that fuel in the tank if you don't ride for a week or...
What's the price difference from SX4 to u4.4? Do you worry about leaving that fuel in the tank if you don't ride for a week or is it ok?
I paid $75 per for a can for the U4.4 & I think the SX4 was a tick over $80 each when I bought the 5 gal cans of it. I bought a 54 gal drum this time so I won't chasing fuel for a while and I got it for a great price. I drain my tank after each ride and put it back into a 5 gal steel can. It takes 2-3 mins max to drain all of the remaining fuel out so its no biggie as far as I'm concerned..
wide open wally 9/28/2015 6:37pm
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anyone have any trouble on the 450 with the lower right radiator hose that runs by the header? I was in the middle of a moto and the bike started to overheat so I had to pull in. 0 coolant left. Filled the radiator up after cooling down and no leaks......until it was started. The header burnt the hose and caused a tiny hole to appear, under pressure it would leak. Thought it was a pretty dumb design. I didn't wanna sift through the 29 pages to see if anyone else had the problem lol.

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anyone have any trouble on the 450 with the lower right radiator hose that runs by the header? I was in the middle of a moto...
anyone have any trouble on the 450 with the lower right radiator hose that runs by the header? I was in the middle of a moto and the bike started to overheat so I had to pull in. 0 coolant left. Filled the radiator up after cooling down and no leaks......until it was started. The header burnt the hose and caused a tiny hole to appear, under pressure it would leak. Thought it was a pretty dumb design. I didn't wanna sift through the 29 pages to see if anyone else had the problem lol.
I haven't heard of that. I've see guys zip tie half a hose to protect them when in vulnerable areas...
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EcoSX478 10/2/2015 7:22pm
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Does KTM or a third party have a Service Manual out there to supplement the Owners Manual for either the 2015.5 or 2016 SXF models? I've found the owners manual to my 16 450 SX-F to be a little vague. Maybe it's just me..?

I would like to add a thank you to CarlinoJoe, Digger, Shane and everyone else who contributes to this thread. It's refreshing to see an informative thread like this one. Especially now a days where online forums are littered with a whole lot of nonsense. Thanks guys!
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We just got the 2015.5 250 & 450 Factory Edition Orange & Blue hose kits in!

ETA on the KTM 2016 250/350 & 450 SX-F's kits are October 26th.

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Very strange how they changed from the FE's to the 16's
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Any of you all figured out a way to keep the side panel from melting? Mine is melted to a point where it's I longer touching the pipe, so it's not going to get any worse. I'm about to throw orange plastics on and would like to prevent this from happening. I thought about jamming steel wool In between the pipe and plastic but if you all have a better idea, fire away!
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Take a razor blade and cut a tiny bit where it touches ...... Perfecto no melting. I did it to my 15.5 fe and have had no problems since
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Quick question anyone that knows. have the 2016 ktm250sxf.

Now whilst riding between sessions i changed to the II mapping on the hanlebar to check out the other mapping option.

Now i would think doing this with the motor off is the correct procedure? Although i basically seen no difference in performance.

Now since reading the manual and seeing the dial in the airbox has to be set to 2 to have the advanced setting applied.

Is this the case on all stock models for it to not be applied from stock? Should i expect the advanced setting to work now? or do i need to change whilst idle?

Also its not clear to me how to engage the start mode also. Any help is appreciated
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You have to be on 1or 2 on the dial selector under the seat and then start the bike and flip the handlebar switch from 1 to 2 & back to 1 or 2 to 1 & back to 2 & you'll then see your FI light start to blink fast. Don't blip the throttle or it will disengage. I flip the switch on the 30 second board and leave it idling until the board goes sides and then I turn the throttle almost wide open and wait for the gate to drop. It works great and I get 3-4 (and sometimes all 4) holeshots every weekend.
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^^ I Assumed this was how it was set! ok nice.
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Any of you all figured out a way to keep the side panel from melting? Mine is melted to a point where it's I longer touching...
Any of you all figured out a way to keep the side panel from melting? Mine is melted to a point where it's I longer touching the pipe, so it's not going to get any worse. I'm about to throw orange plastics on and would like to prevent this from happening. I thought about jamming steel wool In between the pipe and plastic but if you all have a better idea, fire away!
where are finding the orange plastic?
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Paul333 10/4/2015 9:42am
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lumpy790 wrote:
We just got the 2015.5 250 & 450 Factory Edition Orange & Blue hose kits in! ETA on the KTM 2016 250/350 & 450 SX-F's kits...
We just got the 2015.5 250 & 450 Factory Edition Orange & Blue hose kits in!

ETA on the KTM 2016 250/350 & 450 SX-F's kits are October 26th.

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Are the 2015.5 450 Factory Edition & 2016 450 SX-F's hoses different in any way?

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