What are USA chances?

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PressPassP 9/14/2015 7:55pm
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USA are as favoured as any in anyone in my book,France have Paulin' whos way out of sorts and theyre without Ferrandis,Belgium have a big B team thing going on without Desalle and Strijbos,other potential spoilers and podium contenders have top riders out,Holland,Germany,Italy,Russia,this thing is wide open
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mehow2g 9/14/2015 8:31pm
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The Narrator wrote:
Webb is going to win a moto and people are going to lose their minds.
He will crash out, bookmark it.
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MXGooner 9/14/2015 8:47pm
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PressPassP wrote:
USA are as favoured as any in anyone in my book,France have Paulin' whos way out of sorts and theyre without Ferrandis,Belgium have a big B...
USA are as favoured as any in anyone in my book,France have Paulin' whos way out of sorts and theyre without Ferrandis,Belgium have a big B team thing going on without Desalle and Strijbos,other potential spoilers and podium contenders have top riders out,Holland,Germany,Italy,Russia,this thing is wide open
I do think the French are favored, but not as much as everyone thinks. Coop could pull a win, Paulin HRC isn't on the same form he was a year ago, Martin did have Musquin covered 95% this year. I expect Bam and Febv to be solid. GB and Belgium should b right close.
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DeStouwer 9/15/2015 3:03am
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struth wrote:
Very good chance to win it no k-roc,c,dessale, strijbos, n herlings ect Think there 2 or 3 teams that can win it. Dark horse for a...
Very good chance to win it
no k-roc,c,dessale, strijbos, n herlings ect
Think there 2 or 3 teams that can win it.

Dark horse for a podium is new zealand
Kiwi won't podium, even top ten will be difficult enough I think.

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2strokerider 9/15/2015 3:12am
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hard to look past france, usa, gb and Belgium for podium contenders
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hillbilly 9/15/2015 6:51am
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What is the 1st turn like at this track?

If it is a good flowing one where they can all get thru consistently then USA has a great shot.

If it is a U turn or such where they will stack up then it is anybody's race.
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MotoMan12345 9/15/2015 6:53am
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What I hate is the bull shit random gate picks. You can be the fastest rider and get the 40th gate pick in left field next to the local taco stand
Jamie_Munro 9/15/2015 6:56am
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hillbilly wrote:
What is the 1st turn like at this track? If it is a good flowing one where they can all get thru consistently then USA has...
What is the 1st turn like at this track?

If it is a good flowing one where they can all get thru consistently then USA has a great shot.

If it is a U turn or such where they will stack up then it is anybody's race.
It's a sweeper to the right,thins out dramatically as it immediately goes left and left again.

Though I don't see it as a disadvantage for one or the other.

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1-forty-8 9/15/2015 8:56am
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Great Britain are gonna win. Anstie and Simpson are in fine form, Deano will be awesome, we got this shit.
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PalerBlue 9/15/2015 9:39am
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jamma10 wrote:
Pretty sure indecisivepanda is our old friend Keyboardwarrior reincarnated.
Yep, may well be. And "the truth bringer" has more than a little of the arrogance of Carlo Smacho about him. ( I surely hope it's him, I miss that W*nker).

As for the USA's chances, pretty damn good. Barcia always delivers in the MXdN and the team's usually lucky!
Jamie_Munro 9/15/2015 9:41am
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Ah good ol Carlos, I mis that dude about this time of year . Woohoo
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jeffro503 9/15/2015 9:51am
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Carlos is / was an idiot. Or whoever that guy is now. Just another version of Geoff , Muhammed and PhilG.
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1-forty-8 9/15/2015 9:56am
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Ok lol realistic post, the MXdN is the hardest race of there year to predict, all it takes is one crash and it's game over. I can't see anyone other than us, usa or France taking this thing but stranger things have happened. I seriously can't wait. I've been so busy this year with moving house and my job that it really hasn't left all that much time for Moto, but with Glen Helen this weekend and the MXDN the weekend after.. Couldn't be more excited.
The Truth Bringer 9/15/2015 12:24pm
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jamma10 wrote:
Pretty sure indecisivepanda is our old friend Keyboardwarrior reincarnated.
PalerBlue wrote:
Yep, may well be. And "the truth bringer" has more than a little of the arrogance of Carlo Smacho about him. ( I surely hope it's...
Yep, may well be. And "the truth bringer" has more than a little of the arrogance of Carlo Smacho about him. ( I surely hope it's him, I miss that W*nker).

As for the USA's chances, pretty damn good. Barcia always delivers in the MXdN and the team's usually lucky!
I'm not Carlos Macho.
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jamma10 wrote:
Pretty sure indecisivepanda is our old friend Keyboardwarrior reincarnated.
PalerBlue wrote:
Yep, may well be. And "the truth bringer" has more than a little of the arrogance of Carlo Smacho about him. ( I surely hope it's...
Yep, may well be. And "the truth bringer" has more than a little of the arrogance of Carlo Smacho about him. ( I surely hope it's him, I miss that W*nker).

As for the USA's chances, pretty damn good. Barcia always delivers in the MXdN and the team's usually lucky!
The Truth Bringer wrote:
I'm not Carlos Macho.
Close enough
The Truth Bringer 9/15/2015 12:44pm
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RichardLoots wrote:
Kazachstan isnt part of Europe
If you're not on team America you're on team Europe/GP. That's why they consider it a win for them anytime we don't win...
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Barrett57 9/15/2015 1:57pm
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Jamie_Munro wrote:
Ah good ol Carlos, I mis that dude about this time of year . Woohoo
He always made for some interesting threads, some of the stuff he came out with was hilarious.

As for the USAs chances, they always have a great shot at every mxdn they turn up at.

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Jamie_Munro 9/15/2015 3:18pm
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RichardLoots wrote:
Kazachstan isnt part of Europe
The Truth Bringer wrote:
If you're not on team America you're on team Europe/GP. That's why they consider it a win for them anytime we don't win...
See with posts like that you're not fooling anybody captain America. Laughing
travis-grant 9/15/2015 11:53pm
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1-forty-8 wrote:
Ok lol realistic post, the MXdN is the hardest race of there year to predict, all it takes is one crash and it's game over. I...
Ok lol realistic post, the MXdN is the hardest race of there year to predict, all it takes is one crash and it's game over. I can't see anyone other than us, usa or France taking this thing but stranger things have happened. I seriously can't wait. I've been so busy this year with moving house and my job that it really hasn't left all that much time for Moto, but with Glen Helen this weekend and the MXDN the weekend after.. Couldn't be more excited.
Are you going to france? I still have nobody to go with, and i cant miss our best chance to win
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The Rock 9/16/2015 12:04am
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The Truth Bringer wrote:
I'm not Carlos Macho.
Are you carlosmacho's brother?

Now that I think about maybe it was just one guy who explained away his split personality by saying it was his brother that was so gnarly. All I know is the guy who posted pictures of shredded bodies on Motonews and then copped an attitude when yosmithy deleted them was a total wanker. The guy I defended his right t believe in creationism seem okay even if we didn't share the same philosophy on the history of the universe

Regarding our chances I would say they're as good as they've been the last three years.
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mxmasta 9/16/2015 1:09am
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In my opinion Team USA is amongst the heavy favourites to win this thing - just as every year.
The only thing that is different to other years, is that on paper there are only 2 more teams that will be able to fight for the win - France and GB. Teams that were in the mix the last few years like Belgium, Germany and Italy are clearly not that good as the years before.
Maybe Australia can spoil the party a little bit this year.
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struth 9/16/2015 1:37am
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Swiss Vg,seewer and if tonus if his fit can do damage.
Be damm interesting to see what the results of the USA riders are compared the euros in the 250 class at this weekend usgp
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DeStouwer 9/16/2015 1:47am
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Tonus won't ride, Team Switzerland will be Guillod - Seewer - Baumgartner.
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I think it's funny that after being podium contendors for 682 years in a row, Belgium still gets left out of a lot of these pre-race discussions, even if we are sending a B-team.

Van Horebeek: top 5 in his class every day of the week.
Lieber: has at least one top 5 moto in him, especially at a track like Ernee
De Dycker: Can either win the moto or finish 20th.

Pretty strong odds for a podium I'd say.

I say France wins, USA second, Belgium third.
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Fearo wrote:
I think it's funny that after being podium contendors for 682 years in a row, Belgium still gets left out of a lot of these pre-race...
I think it's funny that after being podium contendors for 682 years in a row, Belgium still gets left out of a lot of these pre-race discussions, even if we are sending a B-team.

Van Horebeek: top 5 in his class every day of the week.
Lieber: has at least one top 5 moto in him, especially at a track like Ernee
De Dycker: Can either win the moto or finish 20th.

Pretty strong odds for a podium I'd say.

I say France wins, USA second, Belgium third.
True but AT the Moment:
Jvh and Simpson are about equal
Anstie beats Lieber
Wilson probably beats big Ken

That's why GB is my third pick
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DeStouwer 9/16/2015 4:40am
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In the last 20 years Belgium missed the podium once. I don't doubt about them now, but it won't be easy.

In general, it's always the same 4 countries who have chance of winning or getting podiums: USA, Belgium, France, and GB. Countries like Italy and Germany depend too much on wether guys like Cairoli, Nagl and Roczen are in shape. Netherlands have a good future coming up if Herlings and Coldenhoff stay fit and Pootjes will get better. The Aussies need a major pilot again like Reed in his best days. Waters and Ferris are very good, but they miss that tiny percent to win a race. Top 5 this year would be a major succes for them. In a few years I even see the Swiss taking the trophy home, when Guillod, Seewer and Tonus are fit.
2strokerider 9/16/2015 4:53am
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Fearo wrote:
I think it's funny that after being podium contendors for 682 years in a row, Belgium still gets left out of a lot of these pre-race...
I think it's funny that after being podium contendors for 682 years in a row, Belgium still gets left out of a lot of these pre-race discussions, even if we are sending a B-team.

Van Horebeek: top 5 in his class every day of the week.
Lieber: has at least one top 5 moto in him, especially at a track like Ernee
De Dycker: Can either win the moto or finish 20th.

Pretty strong odds for a podium I'd say.

I say France wins, USA second, Belgium third.
strange logic - If you compare the riders from team Belgium, directly to team GB

the last 6 months or so:-

- simpson has beaten van hoerbeek consistently (beating him in the championship comfortably)- they have been close, but simpson has the edge

- anstie has smoked lieber (winning most races and a long way infront of him in the championship)

then you've got ken, who has been out for most of the season injured- vs dean Wilson, who has been out for most of the season. Deans been back on a bike longer. Dean has shown top 5 speed in ama since coming back and had top 10 overalls. Kens done nothing yet!!

Both of them are capable of good results - I would LOVE to see ken have a good des nations and win a moto, it might be his swan song at that level. I don't think he has many more years left getting good rides in mx1 after not putting in many good results for a long time

not saying its impossible. But I would put GB as 2nd or 3rd favourites this year. Belgian 4th- based on results and form!!! france strong favourites with America 2nd favourites (it will be close between us and them in my opinion)

its our year this year!
RichardLoots 9/16/2015 5:41am
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RichardLoots wrote:
Kazachstan isnt part of Europe
The Truth Bringer wrote:
If you're not on team America you're on team Europe/GP. That's why they consider it a win for them anytime we don't win...
Jamie_Munro wrote:
See with posts like that you're not fooling anybody captain America. Laughing
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Fearo 9/16/2015 6:13am
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2strokerider wrote:
strange logic - If you compare the riders from team Belgium, directly to team GB the last 6 months or so:- - simpson has beaten van...
strange logic - If you compare the riders from team Belgium, directly to team GB

the last 6 months or so:-

- simpson has beaten van hoerbeek consistently (beating him in the championship comfortably)- they have been close, but simpson has the edge

- anstie has smoked lieber (winning most races and a long way infront of him in the championship)

then you've got ken, who has been out for most of the season injured- vs dean Wilson, who has been out for most of the season. Deans been back on a bike longer. Dean has shown top 5 speed in ama since coming back and had top 10 overalls. Kens done nothing yet!!

Both of them are capable of good results - I would LOVE to see ken have a good des nations and win a moto, it might be his swan song at that level. I don't think he has many more years left getting good rides in mx1 after not putting in many good results for a long time

not saying its impossible. But I would put GB as 2nd or 3rd favourites this year. Belgian 4th- based on results and form!!! france strong favourites with America 2nd favourites (it will be close between us and them in my opinion)

its our year this year!
Your post makes sense, maybe you guys do have the better cards this time around.

it's just that, and I mean no offence to anyone, but GB has been hyped for years and they've yet to really "do it". I wish you guys all the best and in all honesty, I hope you either win or at least beat France Laughing but I'll first have to see it to believe it.

I'm most excited for Anstie's performance really, he's had the strangest season I've ever witnessed.

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