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Socialism over there.
An like Green said above, what about the McD's manager now making $15 an hour? Or even if they make $18-20, how much will their raise need to be to make it worth it now?
Minimum wage isn't supposed to be a living wage. It's a wage where you start and work your way up as you develop skills and experience. Why stop at $15? Why not make MW $25 an hour?
starting at $15 bucks an hour MC Ds can hold out for "better" more mature employees knowing that there will likely be a better field of potential candidates to choose from.
People working in hot and dirty manufacturing type jobs will leave their $12-13 per hour job to work for more pay and better conditions.
https://www.washingtonpolicy.org/blog/post/seattles-15-wage-law-factor-…
A piano couldn't fall on these two soon enough.
you basically just said what I said in a different way
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http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2015/04/jobless-in-seattle-not-yet-anyway/
The merit of the claim? IDK, but it seems logical
Restaurants and other businesses have been closing in Seattle forever, and new businesses have been opening in Seattle forever. To suddenly blame all of the closings on a minimum wage increase that likely didn't even affect every employee is completely illogical.
Since every nearby competitor is affected the same, the playing field between Seattle restaurants is still level. If I'm going out to dinner in Seattle, I'm not going to drive across Lake Washington just because Pesos raised their Carne Asada price by $1 (if they even had to do that).
This isn't a "story", it's merely a piece of propaganda that infers cause and effect despite a lack of any conclusive evidence.
Local youth unemployment rates and month over month changes.
Employment in the leisure and hospitality subsector.
Local revenue reports from the subsector.
If there were going to be effects caused by the increase they would likely be reflected by a change in these subsectors.
What ideology driven people want to extract from the data will be anyone's guess.
The rest would have to come from local information.
1) Who is they? I would imagine that these types of things are not representative of most hard working people who make minimum wage and is rather an exception to the rule. But it could really be such that hard working people and families will struggle if their benefits get cut.
2) This points to an unhealthy economic system in our country because $15.00 an hr is still not enough to live in Seattle. Minimum wages should be increased but the welfare system is also going to have to be overhauled to account for the oncoming increases in minimum wage (yes they are coming as more and more states and cities will follow) so that minimum wage workers can still receive benefits if needed.
3) To comments that think that flipping burgers is not worth $15.00 an hr; it's not up to you to decide what a job is worth. Our local animal control officer makes nearly $80,000.00 a year and I don't think his job is worth that much, but that is just my opinion. What a entry level job is worth is highly dependent, not on specific skill sets, but on the demands of the economy.
Good grief...
Minimum wage jobs aren't meant to be living wage jobs...never have been, never will be. They are jobs to get ones foot in the door, to start getting experience, to build a resume, to support while working on education etc. The minimum wage isn't set to be the minimum amount that one can live. Its there as a minimum amount one might earn, until they can improve themselves to justify a larger wage.
In fact, you talk about how subjective what a job is worth is...well, living wage is also very subjective. One persons living wage, is another persons poverty. Really. And if the government is going to start pushing a "living wage" rather than a "minimum wage"...then the government is going to have to define exactly what a "living wage" actually is. And the problem is, is that its not the governments job to tell employers what their jobs are worth. That is up to what the local economy will justify. When jobs are scarce, its a higher wage...when jobs are plentiful its a lower wage. If an employer gets sick of crappy workers, then he'll pay more to get better qualified employees. The government doesn't need to be involved in this beyond making sure that companies aren't exploiting their workers (and working for even the current minimum wage isn't exploitation).
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