Go fund me for my 66 year old mother injured as a spectator at cahuilla creek motocross track

rettaross
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7/17/2015 10:43am
Not to worry. Just a kind gesture for my mom thanks for the time. I will b exiting the forum. Safe riding to all
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7/17/2015 10:44am
rettaross wrote:
Everyone please ride safe keep ur eyes open and tires in the dirt. I don't want the money. For the last time the 28000 was a...
Everyone please ride safe keep ur eyes open and tires in the dirt. I don't want the money. For the last time the 28000 was a god dam number that I pulled out of my ass. I want good thoughts and prayers I wish this on no one. Ps once again don't jump to conclusions. The bike is sold already and paying for me to be away from my job so that I can care for my mother. Sorry to bother anyone on here. Safe riding no money wanted. Good wishes and good thoughts. That's it.
First off, I'm sorry for your Mom and hope she has a fast and full recovery.

Second, my constructive criticism would be that this is premature if you are asking for help with her rehab. You don't know how long she will be in the hospital, how long she will be in rehab, the amount of her bills, who is going to be responsible for what, etc. You do not have to pay cash to get her out of the hospital, they will send you invoices with terms. In the meantime you will be working on the track and its insurance company to cover the bills. They will certainly use the release I'm sure she signed. Hopefully she has her own insurance coverage that will help. Once the smoke settles and you actually know what is covered and what is her responsibility, that is when you share the story with the world and ask for help (if that is your thing). Just my .02, best of luck.
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7/17/2015 11:06am Edited Date/Time 7/17/2015 11:10am
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Fuck you guys are pretty gnarly on this kid. "O wait you don't come on this board on a regular bases and beat off to all...
Fuck you guys are pretty gnarly on this kid.

"O wait you don't come on this board on a regular bases and beat off to all the shit talking, fuck no I'm not giving you any money in your time of need"

The story seems valid enough.

With your guys thought process I assume you never help out the guy on the corner because you assume he is going to buy booze with it....who gives a shit what he does with it. Do it to be a good person and hope the money is going to good use.

You don't have to donate, but talking shit and voicing your objections is pretty pathetic.
My sentiments exactly. If you don't want to donate then move on. Bunch of cold hearted SOBs to pile on this kid when he is worried about my mom.

Just another example of the negativity many (but not all fortunately) of you like to spew. Glad I had parents that raised me to have compassion.

EDIT GrapeApe ever think for a second you are in a much better situation to be offering advice given there is no stress on you? First the kid gets crucified then you tell him how he should have done it. How exactly does that help this family now?
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7/17/2015 11:11am
Some of you are fucking dickheads,good god.

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7/17/2015 11:12am Edited Date/Time 7/17/2015 11:22am
moscrop940 wrote:
Fuck you guys are pretty gnarly on this kid. "O wait you don't come on this board on a regular bases and beat off to all...
Fuck you guys are pretty gnarly on this kid.

"O wait you don't come on this board on a regular bases and beat off to all the shit talking, fuck no I'm not giving you any money in your time of need"

The story seems valid enough.

With your guys thought process I assume you never help out the guy on the corner because you assume he is going to buy booze with it....who gives a shit what he does with it. Do it to be a good person and hope the money is going to good use.

You don't have to donate, but talking shit and voicing your objections is pretty pathetic.
The Rock wrote:
My sentiments exactly. If you don't want to donate then move on. Bunch of cold hearted SOBs to pile on this kid when he is worried...
My sentiments exactly. If you don't want to donate then move on. Bunch of cold hearted SOBs to pile on this kid when he is worried about my mom.

Just another example of the negativity many (but not all fortunately) of you like to spew. Glad I had parents that raised me to have compassion.

EDIT GrapeApe ever think for a second you are in a much better situation to be offering advice given there is no stress on you? First the kid gets crucified then you tell him how he should have done it. How exactly does that help this family now?
Some people have the Intelligence to see it for exactly what it is.

Having a go at GrapeApe for using and suggesting some common sense, says a lot about yours, or lack there of.

I'd suggest. If the kid has been working away from home, he may not actually be a "kid". Don't you lot drive on the same roads as unsupervised 16yr olds? LOL.

Yeah, I know. "common sense just ain't that common these days". Seriously, have a bit of a think about it.
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7/17/2015 11:19am
Read the story,she was lucky the EMTs were good enuff to know what to do.

Dont know how many races I've done that had totally clueless EMTs or whatever they claimed to be.

I had my own that was my pit guy,I knew if my digger was bad he would know what to do.
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7/17/2015 11:22am
moscrop940 wrote:
Fuck you guys are pretty gnarly on this kid. "O wait you don't come on this board on a regular bases and beat off to all...
Fuck you guys are pretty gnarly on this kid.

"O wait you don't come on this board on a regular bases and beat off to all the shit talking, fuck no I'm not giving you any money in your time of need"

The story seems valid enough.

With your guys thought process I assume you never help out the guy on the corner because you assume he is going to buy booze with it....who gives a shit what he does with it. Do it to be a good person and hope the money is going to good use.

You don't have to donate, but talking shit and voicing your objections is pretty pathetic.
The Rock wrote:
My sentiments exactly. If you don't want to donate then move on. Bunch of cold hearted SOBs to pile on this kid when he is worried...
My sentiments exactly. If you don't want to donate then move on. Bunch of cold hearted SOBs to pile on this kid when he is worried about my mom.

Just another example of the negativity many (but not all fortunately) of you like to spew. Glad I had parents that raised me to have compassion.

EDIT GrapeApe ever think for a second you are in a much better situation to be offering advice given there is no stress on you? First the kid gets crucified then you tell him how he should have done it. How exactly does that help this family now?
#991 wrote:
Some people have the Intelligence to see it for exactly what it is. Having a go at GrapeApe for using and suggesting some common sense, says...
Some people have the Intelligence to see it for exactly what it is.

Having a go at GrapeApe for using and suggesting some common sense, says a lot about yours, or lack there of.

I'd suggest. If the kid has been working away from home, he may not actually be a "kid". Don't you lot drive on the same roads as unsupervised 16yr olds? LOL.

Yeah, I know. "common sense just ain't that common these days". Seriously, have a bit of a think about it.
Its a moto forum,just how smart you think a bunch of dirtbike riders are anyways you prick.
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7/17/2015 11:26am Edited Date/Time 7/17/2015 11:28am
Aye, Hillbilly. What's the difference between an MX shop and a Porcupine?

With a Porcupine, the pricks are on the outside.

Speak for yourself Laughing
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7/17/2015 11:27am Edited Date/Time 7/17/2015 11:31am
The Rock wrote:
My sentiments exactly. If you don't want to donate then move on. Bunch of cold hearted SOBs to pile on this kid when he is worried...
My sentiments exactly. If you don't want to donate then move on. Bunch of cold hearted SOBs to pile on this kid when he is worried about my mom.

Just another example of the negativity many (but not all fortunately) of you like to spew. Glad I had parents that raised me to have compassion.

EDIT GrapeApe ever think for a second you are in a much better situation to be offering advice given there is no stress on you? First the kid gets crucified then you tell him how he should have done it. How exactly does that help this family now?
Unlike most I actually offered advice on how his fund raising might be better received, and made no negative comments. This isn't the first time you've feigned offense from your moral high ground, and won't be the last.
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7/17/2015 11:29am
If mom is 66 years old this man is probably between 30 to 46 yrs old.
I wish you're mom a full recovery. That is definitely a freak accident. at her age and the extent of the injuries is going to require alot of rehab time for sure. Probably 6 months. This has to be stressful on the entire family.
I am glad though that if I make it to age 66 I won't be still making truck payments on my chosen vehicles.
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7/17/2015 11:38am Edited Date/Time 7/17/2015 11:43am
JBlain619 wrote:
Not true. It is not income, it's a gift and gifts are not taxable.
Zaugg wrote:
Actually that's not true. While "Im not an expert, it's worthwhile doing your homework. This could be considered income. Off The GoFundMe website: [i]Am I responsible...
Actually that's not true. While "Im not an expert, it's worthwhile doing your homework. This could be considered income.

Off The GoFundMe website:

Am I responsible for taxes? (US Only)

While this is by no means a guarantee, donations on GoFundMe are usually considered to be "personal gifts" which are not taxed as income in the US. We're unable to provide specific tax advice since everyone's situation is different so we always recommend checking with a tax professional to be sure.


Additionally, WePay will not report the funds you collect as earned income. It is up to you (and a tax professional) to determine whether your proceeds represent taxable income. The person who's listed on the WePay account and ultimately receives the funds may be responsible for taxes.


If you collect at least $20,000 and over 200 donations in the calendar year, WePay will send you a 1099-K form by January 31st of the following year. The 1099-K form is simply intended to track the movement of funds.


I'd be checking with my tax professional before asking for free money on GoFundMe.

My information comes from someone that has 15 yrs experience as a CPA as well as a Masters degree in tax. If its a true "gift" it isn't considered income and you do not have to claim it as such. I think I would trust those credentials above the GoFundMe website's info.

My intent wasn't to be a smartass, it was to let the OP know that he shouldn't need to worry about the tax ramification from the GoFundMe account. Instead he can focus on his mothers recovery. Best wishes to her and her recovery.
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7/17/2015 11:48am
JBlain619 wrote:
My information comes from someone that has 15 yrs experience as a CPA as well as a Masters degree in tax. If its a true "gift"...
My information comes from someone that has 15 yrs experience as a CPA as well as a Masters degree in tax. If its a true "gift" it isn't considered income and you do not have to claim it as such. I think I would trust those credentials above the GoFundMe website's info.

My intent wasn't to be a smartass, it was to let the OP know that he shouldn't need to worry about the tax ramification from the GoFundMe account. Instead he can focus on his mothers recovery. Best wishes to her and her recovery.
If it's not given to a registered 501(c)3, or similar org., and the amount is over a certain limit, I believe a gift tax return may be required. Bounce that off your CPA if possible...my curiosity is killing me.
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7/17/2015 11:59am
I never clicked the link to begin with. I only asked that everything be properly verified by staff/mods before being allowed on here. The OP came in here with an anonymous user name and failed to properly introduce himself. Could have been anyone setting up a account to scam off of someone elses misfortune. By the way, the link no longer works.

No one here is being shitty, only cautious.
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7/17/2015 12:00pm
If it's not given to a registered 501(c)3, or similar org., and the amount is over a certain limit, I believe a gift tax return may...
If it's not given to a registered 501(c)3, or similar org., and the amount is over a certain limit, I believe a gift tax return may be required. Bounce that off your CPA if possible...my curiosity is killing me.
I'll ask her. There's different factors and so many rules and they seem to change daily. I would assume that big amounts would incure a tax liability. Not the typical GoFundMe amounts of $5, $10, $20
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7/17/2015 12:09pm Edited Date/Time 7/17/2015 12:10pm
JBlain619 wrote:
My information comes from someone that has 15 yrs experience as a CPA as well as a Masters degree in tax. If its a true "gift"...
My information comes from someone that has 15 yrs experience as a CPA as well as a Masters degree in tax. If its a true "gift" it isn't considered income and you do not have to claim it as such. I think I would trust those credentials above the GoFundMe website's info.

My intent wasn't to be a smartass, it was to let the OP know that he shouldn't need to worry about the tax ramification from the GoFundMe account. Instead he can focus on his mothers recovery. Best wishes to her and her recovery.
Not claiming to be an expert. I suggested to the OP to get professional advice or to look at Rider Down so he doesn't have to worry about the IRS going after him after his mother gets well.


Granted this guys has plenty to worry about. Last thing he needs is a tax burden hanging over his head as well. Most people don't make good decisions while under stress.

I'm not picking a fight with you...just trying to help this guy out. Doesn't sound like he's thinking long term.


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7/17/2015 12:11pm
JBlain619 wrote:
I'll ask her. There's different factors and so many rules and they seem to change daily. I would assume that big amounts would incure a tax...
I'll ask her. There's different factors and so many rules and they seem to change daily. I would assume that big amounts would incure a tax liability. Not the typical GoFundMe amounts of $5, $10, $20
As long as they're gifts, I don't think the amount matters for income tax purposes. Gift tax may be another story, especially if the receiver of the gift is not a charitable org. I've often wondered since the GoFundMe has become so popular.
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7/17/2015 12:19pm
JBlain619 wrote:
I'll ask her. There's different factors and so many rules and they seem to change daily. I would assume that big amounts would incure a tax...
I'll ask her. There's different factors and so many rules and they seem to change daily. I would assume that big amounts would incure a tax liability. Not the typical GoFundMe amounts of $5, $10, $20
As long as they're gifts, I don't think the amount matters for income tax purposes. Gift tax may be another story, especially if the receiver of...
As long as they're gifts, I don't think the amount matters for income tax purposes. Gift tax may be another story, especially if the receiver of the gift is not a charitable org. I've often wondered since the GoFundMe has become so popular.
I wondered too, thats why I asked her. She may come on here under my name before we go to bed with the answer. lol
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7/17/2015 12:21pm
newmann wrote:
I never clicked the link to begin with. I only asked that everything be properly verified by staff/mods before being allowed on here. The OP came...
I never clicked the link to begin with. I only asked that everything be properly verified by staff/mods before being allowed on here. The OP came in here with an anonymous user name and failed to properly introduce himself. Could have been anyone setting up a account to scam off of someone elses misfortune. By the way, the link no longer works.

No one here is being shitty, only cautious.
the gofundme link still works, just not the facebook link. Still hesitant on the whole thing...I wish the best to this woman and for a speedy recovery!
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7/17/2015 1:11pm
hillbilly wrote:
Some of you are fucking dickheads,good god.
Geez, no doubt.
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7/17/2015 1:33pm
Man, some you guys are a bit harsh today.

I understand not wanting to get scamed but when I clicked the link this morning I thought it gave an adequate description of the woman who got hurt and what she was about. I believe it also mentioned Retaross by name as a person that was at the track at the time. So her using a fake user name would not be the case.Also the link to the news article gave the story more backing.

Some of you guys trip over yourselves to give money to some guy in his early 20's wearing $100 sunglasses because hes riding a two-stroke but all of a sudden we need to be hyper critical when Grandmas fighting for her life.

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7/17/2015 1:39pm
I don't think it's fake or anything of the sort but when the OP says, "For the last time the 28000 was a god dam number that I pulled out of my ass" ...what?

Hoping she has a speedy and healthy recovery.
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7/17/2015 2:47pm
Unfortunately, I think we get desensitized to these "fundraisers" since they're so prevalent. It used to be that they were locally and usually those attended knew or at least knew of who the fund raiser was for. Now that they're always out there (not just here or in the sport, but everywhere)...it's easy to blow it off as "another person with a handout." I know I'm guilty of it.

Well the story is compelling, the presentation is horrible.

-He's not a regular poster, but now posts looking for Koenig.
-He then says he didn't want a dime.
-Asks for $28,000 as a number "pulled from his ass" after saying its for a laptop?!?

The whole thing just doesn't feel right. Especially when you consider all the causes out there asking for money. Maybe it's gotten so easy to ask for money, that less people are actually donating and more are increasing how skeptical they are?

I still think donations and fundraising should have its own area...

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7/17/2015 3:00pm Edited Date/Time 7/17/2015 3:02pm
I just read through this whole thing and here is my 2 cents:

1.This was posted by her daughter Retta - as the go fund me story indicates when it says "her daughter Retta would be working at the event" My guess is it is the 2 of them in the picture together. It also explains why she was in the flagger hut probably because she has sat there with her daughter before.

http://www.gofundme.com/zhtfss

2.She probably had somebody in the MX world suggest that she post on here for attention
3.Somebody gave her really bad advice when they suggested she put a $ amount on there. Looks like it is gone now.
4.The story is legit I am certain - the track gave $500 already

It definitely wasn't done the best way but I feel for this family. I just think she got some bad advice on how to do it. Sounds like her mom is infact in some pretty bad shape.

I know one thing if it was one of my daughters I wouldn't be pleased with how some of you chose to address the OP on this. You know who you are and not knowing for sure that is probably how you reply on most threads.

Best of all to the OP and the family.
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7/17/2015 3:29pm
Honda88L wrote:
I just read through this whole thing and here is my 2 cents: 1.This was posted by her daughter Retta - as the go fund me...
I just read through this whole thing and here is my 2 cents:

1.This was posted by her daughter Retta - as the go fund me story indicates when it says "her daughter Retta would be working at the event" My guess is it is the 2 of them in the picture together. It also explains why she was in the flagger hut probably because she has sat there with her daughter before.

http://www.gofundme.com/zhtfss

2.She probably had somebody in the MX world suggest that she post on here for attention
3.Somebody gave her really bad advice when they suggested she put a $ amount on there. Looks like it is gone now.
4.The story is legit I am certain - the track gave $500 already

It definitely wasn't done the best way but I feel for this family. I just think she got some bad advice on how to do it. Sounds like her mom is infact in some pretty bad shape.

I know one thing if it was one of my daughters I wouldn't be pleased with how some of you chose to address the OP on this. You know who you are and not knowing for sure that is probably how you reply on most threads.

Best of all to the OP and the family.
And once again if stuff like this had to be approved for posting, it no doubt would have gotten some cleaning up and better presentation by the site staff and would have been better received.
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7/17/2015 3:41pm
#991 wrote:
Aye, Hillbilly. What's the difference between an MX shop and a Porcupine?

With a Porcupine, the pricks are on the outside.

Speak for yourself Laughing
anybody else read this guys posts with an aussy accent in your head. lol. every time i read it...its like in a croc dundee voice.



and grape ape hit the nail on the head. original poster fell victim to the "gofund me craze". do your homework before you set those up. Put all the information on it you can, update it often. set goals and definitely list why you need the money. Throwing out 27k as your cap and no listing what that much is needed for...totally threw a red flag. And thats not necessarily the OP's fault. Just needs a little polishing and adjusting and this thread coulda went a whole nother direction in a positive way.
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7/17/2015 3:57pm
I don't know how to "quote" but Newman and dboivin I agree completely with your thoughts. No doubt someone would have said "you would need to explain why you need 28K" or "bad idea". I just caught that it was her daughter and it was pretty clear it was all true and thought I would point it out.
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Honda88L wrote:
I don't know how to "quote" but Newman and dboivin I agree completely with your thoughts. No doubt someone would have said "you would need to...
I don't know how to "quote" but Newman and dboivin I agree completely with your thoughts. No doubt someone would have said "you would need to explain why you need 28K" or "bad idea". I just caught that it was her daughter and it was pretty clear it was all true and thought I would point it out.
In the upper right corner of each post there is a red "button" that says "Quote." If you want to quote only the last post in a multiple quote post, you will see a small box in the lower left of the quoted post that says," Quote last post only." Glad you took the time to clarify some of the issues. Hope this helps.
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7/17/2015 4:08pm
hillbilly wrote:
Some of you are fucking dickheads,good god.
No doubt!
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7/17/2015 11:58pm
The Rock wrote:
My sentiments exactly. If you don't want to donate then move on. Bunch of cold hearted SOBs to pile on this kid when he is worried...
My sentiments exactly. If you don't want to donate then move on. Bunch of cold hearted SOBs to pile on this kid when he is worried about my mom.

Just another example of the negativity many (but not all fortunately) of you like to spew. Glad I had parents that raised me to have compassion.

EDIT GrapeApe ever think for a second you are in a much better situation to be offering advice given there is no stress on you? First the kid gets crucified then you tell him how he should have done it. How exactly does that help this family now?
GrapeApe wrote:
Unlike most I actually offered advice on how his fund raising might be better received, and made no negative comments. This isn't the first time you've...
Unlike most I actually offered advice on how his fund raising might be better received, and made no negative comments. This isn't the first time you've feigned offense from your moral high ground, and won't be the last.
It was after the fact advice so I didn't see how your words could help now except be yet another voice telling him how he did it wrong.

No moral high ground unless you think trying to be civil and have empathy is the moral high ground. Some would say it's only being nice.

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