Would you rank RD #1 on the GOAT list ?

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Not the best racer of all time, but combining his MX accomplishments, his success as a team manager, mentor and throw in his R and D ability ??? I would say the GOAT ...
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No, there is only 1 GOAT.

you cant have 5 riders as the Greatest of All Time.

One of the Best of all time sure, Most Consistent of All time yes.

James is the most talented of All time, Chad is whatever of All time, RV was a baddude, Showtime was great of all time SX rider.

But Ricky was and IS the only Greatest of All Time.
mgifracing 6/10/2015 6:52am
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I think you summed that up about right RPM. The chunky red head is still the GOAT.
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I'm not so sure people are going to understand who you are talking about with this thread...
dazzlindino 6/10/2015 6:53am
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...leaves but one question....
...who is the greatest * rider of all time...

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slipdog wrote:
I'm not so sure people are going to understand who you are talking about with this thread...
Yeah theres gonna be a bunch of pissed off RV fans clicking on this thread. Smile
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RPM68 6/10/2015 7:20am
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yup, my bad.

The Man is a bad dude. Maybe he is the Goatm "greatest of all the managers"
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yup, my bad.

The Man is a bad dude. Maybe he is the Goatm "greatest of all the managers"
The GOAT talk is worn out. I wish the word GOAT was never even established. Same with the FMOTP talk.

Decoster will probably go down as the most influential person in moto history. I can't think of anyone that comes even close to his experience, knowledge and capability. His move to KTM and what's he's done there has solidified his HOF career. To add to all of that, he's such a humble guy and great with interviews. Dungey has had probably the best mentor to ever cross the moto scene.
F150Motocrosser 6/10/2015 7:44am
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There's a reason why he's known as "The Man". Conversation over.
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Damn young'uns, thinking Dungey is the topic of discussion!Laughing

DeCoster is The Man. How he has maintained his attitude, motivation and enthusiasm over the years even after being shit on repeatedly by the assholes of the industry speaks volumes about him. No one else compares, not even that little redheaded fugger. Now you guys can go back to making shit up again.



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I wôuld put RD at the top of the GOAT list.....the one and only.

How can RC be there for dominating national series at one of its weakest times? RD dominated the WORLD when the gates were loaded with World and National champs. He travelled to America and won the Trans Am series. One of the most impressive victories for Roger was winning his last GP he entered when he was waaaaay beyond his prime.

The real GOAT = Sir Roger Decoster
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F150Motocrosser wrote:
There's a reason why he's known as "The Man". Conversation over.
Exactly. Why the hell would he want to be "The GOAT", when he's "The Man"? DeCoster is probably the only person in the world that I would ask for an autograph.
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F150Motocrosser wrote:
There's a reason why he's known as "The Man". Conversation over.
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Exactly. Why the hell would he want to be "The GOAT", when he's "The Man"? DeCoster is probably the only person in the world that I...
Exactly. Why the hell would he want to be "The GOAT", when he's "The Man"? DeCoster is probably the only person in the world that I would ask for an autograph.
I got my picture with him when I was a kid at High Point... Brought the photo with me the next year and had him sign it
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RD says RC. Done and Done.
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KennyT wrote:
I wôuld put RD at the top of the GOAT list.....the one and only. How can RC be there for dominating national series at one of...
I wôuld put RD at the top of the GOAT list.....the one and only.

How can RC be there for dominating national series at one of its weakest times? RD dominated the WORLD when the gates were loaded with World and National champs. He travelled to America and won the Trans Am series. One of the most impressive victories for Roger was winning his last GP he entered when he was waaaaay beyond his prime.

The real GOAT = Sir Roger Decoster
RC weak competition? He retired MC, stopped a two time world champion in his track and number 2 and 4 on the all time SX list could not beat him for a title and he is the reason Windham had bridesmaid dresses and beat Everts every time on his soil when they raced the same class. How many races did he lose in his 450 MX career? RD himself will say that RC is the one true GOAT.
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mgifracing wrote:
I think you summed that up about right RPM. The chunky red head is still the GOAT.
That's why it's hard to explain the sport of motocross... You hear most physical or second most physical demanding
sport in world and I'll just leave it at that...
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KennyT wrote:
I wôuld put RD at the top of the GOAT list.....the one and only. How can RC be there for dominating national series at one of...
I wôuld put RD at the top of the GOAT list.....the one and only.

How can RC be there for dominating national series at one of its weakest times? RD dominated the WORLD when the gates were loaded with World and National champs. He travelled to America and won the Trans Am series. One of the most impressive victories for Roger was winning his last GP he entered when he was waaaaay beyond his prime.

The real GOAT = Sir Roger Decoster
Yeah, and look at him, not a big man but was\is athletic, "The Man" turns 71 in August..
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You gotta really love doing something to keep doing it into your 70s ! that alone speaks volumes about "The Man's" dedication to motocross!
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KennyT 6/10/2015 9:37am
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KennyT wrote:
I wôuld put RD at the top of the GOAT list.....the one and only. How can RC be there for dominating national series at one of...
I wôuld put RD at the top of the GOAT list.....the one and only.

How can RC be there for dominating national series at one of its weakest times? RD dominated the WORLD when the gates were loaded with World and National champs. He travelled to America and won the Trans Am series. One of the most impressive victories for Roger was winning his last GP he entered when he was waaaaay beyond his prime.

The real GOAT = Sir Roger Decoster
h&m_cycle wrote:
Yeah, and look at him, not a big man but was\is athletic, "The Man" turns 71 in August..
No shit....there were no PED's and cyclist trainers in his day. 45 minute motos on ungroomed tracks on pogo stick suspension. There is no comparison between RD and RC

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KennyT 6/10/2015 9:41am
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KennyT wrote:
I wôuld put RD at the top of the GOAT list.....the one and only. How can RC be there for dominating national series at one of...
I wôuld put RD at the top of the GOAT list.....the one and only.

How can RC be there for dominating national series at one of its weakest times? RD dominated the WORLD when the gates were loaded with World and National champs. He travelled to America and won the Trans Am series. One of the most impressive victories for Roger was winning his last GP he entered when he was waaaaay beyond his prime.

The real GOAT = Sir Roger Decoster
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RC weak competition? He retired MC, stopped a two time world champion in his track and number 2 and 4 on the all time SX list...
RC weak competition? He retired MC, stopped a two time world champion in his track and number 2 and 4 on the all time SX list could not beat him for a title and he is the reason Windham had bridesmaid dresses and beat Everts every time on his soil when they raced the same class. How many races did he lose in his 450 MX career? RD himself will say that RC is the one true GOAT.
He retired MC when MC was ready to retire. He was at the end of his career. MC was the king of SX but he wanted nothing to do with MX. Roger was racing against beast most of his career. Week after week...not once a year at MXDN.

RC had one fierce competitor in his time and that was Stewart, who also proved himself to be one of the most inconsistent riders in history. Just look at James records. For being who I would consider the fastest rider ever, his stats are terrible
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No, there is only 1 GOAT. you cant have 5 riders as the Greatest of All Time. One of the Best of all time sure, Most...
No, there is only 1 GOAT.

you cant have 5 riders as the Greatest of All Time.

One of the Best of all time sure, Most Consistent of All time yes.

James is the most talented of All time, Chad is whatever of All time, RV was a baddude, Showtime was great of all time SX rider.

But Ricky was and IS the only Greatest of All Time.
Nailed it
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This is a dumb question. There is only one GOAT, and that is Ricky.
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KennyT wrote:
I wôuld put RD at the top of the GOAT list.....the one and only. How can RC be there for dominating national series at one of...
I wôuld put RD at the top of the GOAT list.....the one and only.

How can RC be there for dominating national series at one of its weakest times? RD dominated the WORLD when the gates were loaded with World and National champs. He travelled to America and won the Trans Am series. One of the most impressive victories for Roger was winning his last GP he entered when he was waaaaay beyond his prime.

The real GOAT = Sir Roger Decoster
Park Boys wrote:
RC weak competition? He retired MC, stopped a two time world champion in his track and number 2 and 4 on the all time SX list...
RC weak competition? He retired MC, stopped a two time world champion in his track and number 2 and 4 on the all time SX list could not beat him for a title and he is the reason Windham had bridesmaid dresses and beat Everts every time on his soil when they raced the same class. How many races did he lose in his 450 MX career? RD himself will say that RC is the one true GOAT.
Not to mention he also rsced against lusk laracco Stewart reed and vullimen. Hardly week competition it's weaker right now then it was when RC raced
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KennyT 6/10/2015 12:02pm
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KennyT wrote:
I wôuld put RD at the top of the GOAT list.....the one and only. How can RC be there for dominating national series at one of...
I wôuld put RD at the top of the GOAT list.....the one and only.

How can RC be there for dominating national series at one of its weakest times? RD dominated the WORLD when the gates were loaded with World and National champs. He travelled to America and won the Trans Am series. One of the most impressive victories for Roger was winning his last GP he entered when he was waaaaay beyond his prime.

The real GOAT = Sir Roger Decoster
Park Boys wrote:
RC weak competition? He retired MC, stopped a two time world champion in his track and number 2 and 4 on the all time SX list...
RC weak competition? He retired MC, stopped a two time world champion in his track and number 2 and 4 on the all time SX list could not beat him for a title and he is the reason Windham had bridesmaid dresses and beat Everts every time on his soil when they raced the same class. How many races did he lose in his 450 MX career? RD himself will say that RC is the one true GOAT.
jasen.bougher wrote:
Not to mention he also rsced against lusk laracco Stewart reed and vullimen. Hardly week competition it's weaker right now then it was when RC raced
Well it is really no comparison to put Lusk, Larocco, Dv against the likes that RD went against.

Robert, Mikkola, Hannah, Smith, Aberg, Weil, Malherbe etc...the list can go on for pages. These guys were world and National champions....not guys that would struggle for podiums

BTW I am a RC fan....but he is #2 on my list
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MotoMalyDad 6/10/2015 12:18pm
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Not the best racer of all time, but combining his MX accomplishments, his success as a team manager, mentor and throw in his R and D...
Not the best racer of all time, but combining his MX accomplishments, his success as a team manager, mentor and throw in his R and D ability ??? I would say the GOAT ...
Once again , I am not asking about the best rider , I am asking about one person that has done more for the sport at a high level. Sure good riders went on to become managers or work in R and D . But Decoster man I have to give him props for what he has done. I will never use an asterisk because xx was injured, past him prime , tracks were harder, suspension better etc. You line up and race in your era. Motorcycle can't ride themselves (yet) so you have to race who ever is able to line up.
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Park Boys wrote:
RC weak competition? He retired MC, stopped a two time world champion in his track and number 2 and 4 on the all time SX list...
RC weak competition? He retired MC, stopped a two time world champion in his track and number 2 and 4 on the all time SX list could not beat him for a title and he is the reason Windham had bridesmaid dresses and beat Everts every time on his soil when they raced the same class. How many races did he lose in his 450 MX career? RD himself will say that RC is the one true GOAT.
jasen.bougher wrote:
Not to mention he also rsced against lusk laracco Stewart reed and vullimen. Hardly week competition it's weaker right now then it was when RC raced
KennyT wrote:
Well it is really no comparison to put Lusk, Larocco, Dv against the likes that RD went against. Robert, Mikkola, Hannah, Smith, Aberg, Weil, Malherbe etc...the...
Well it is really no comparison to put Lusk, Larocco, Dv against the likes that RD went against.

Robert, Mikkola, Hannah, Smith, Aberg, Weil, Malherbe etc...the list can go on for pages. These guys were world and National champions....not guys that would struggle for podiums

BTW I am a RC fan....but he is #2 on my list
DeCoster did not race Mikkola every year, Roberts in him rarely raced and never raced against each other on 500's I believe. Also while the 500cc GP"s were considered the premiere class it was really 1a and 1b, unlike the mordern era where the best is 1 class.

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How high do I hold Decoster? I believe the AMA Motocross 450F title should be called "The Decoster"

He has is the GOAT of the MX industry..... helped American riders get faster. win the MXDN, turnaround Honda, Suzuki, and KTM. All three of those teams were dismal at best before Decoster. Hannah believes Decoster is the GOAT. Want me to go on.... Decoster is bad ass.
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De Coster has done amazing / incredible things on and off the bike and I don't think we'll see the likes like him anytime soon. I have utmost respect about his accomplishment as a rider and manager. 5 times world champion is something spectacular in itself but then have the balls to move to the US is something incredible as well. He basically lifted the level in the USA to newer heights and make them aware about the MXoN. He won (and still is winning) plenty of championships as a manager for different brand (Honda, Suzuki, KTM). Absolutely stunning. Somebody should really make a documentary about him.
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There is doc about him MX Files
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KennyT wrote:
I wôuld put RD at the top of the GOAT list.....the one and only. How can RC be there for dominating national series at one of...
I wôuld put RD at the top of the GOAT list.....the one and only.

How can RC be there for dominating national series at one of its weakest times? RD dominated the WORLD when the gates were loaded with World and National champs. He travelled to America and won the Trans Am series. One of the most impressive victories for Roger was winning his last GP he entered when he was waaaaay beyond his prime.

The real GOAT = Sir Roger Decoster
Oh yeah, those week series' with Reed, Stewart and Windham on the gate. Total cakewalk.

RC was blowing away a field with way more speed in it than the current crop of 450 guys. He was and is the GOAT.

I'll never forget watching him get the holeshot in person at Washougal circa 2002 or so and seeing him open up a 5 second lead in one lap. He scrubbed that first single going into horsepower hill and it was all over before it had even started. I think there was a great racerx or Transworld shot of it... couldn't find one though so here's one of steel city from that same year



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