Roczen or Dungey?

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downard254 6/5/2015 4:31am
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Well, how many times this season has the title been given away so early. Yea, Ken is back in points, but what happened to Dungeys bike at GH. Did they ever find the actual problem. If not, could rear it's ugly head again. Poof, -25 points.
Also, didn't they say Bagget was going to ease into this season and turn it up by the mid point. Plus if Cannard can get back out there and get back to speed, as well as Barcia. I think Barcia is slowly getting better and if ken can cut the gap by half, I could see things develope nicely for the second half.
So for me, I ain't predicting shit.
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joeellis 6/5/2015 4:36am
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downard254 wrote:
Well, how many times this season has the title been given away so early. Yea, Ken is back in points, but what happened to Dungeys bike...
Well, how many times this season has the title been given away so early. Yea, Ken is back in points, but what happened to Dungeys bike at GH. Did they ever find the actual problem. If not, could rear it's ugly head again. Poof, -25 points.
Also, didn't they say Bagget was going to ease into this season and turn it up by the mid point. Plus if Cannard can get back out there and get back to speed, as well as Barcia. I think Barcia is slowly getting better and if ken can cut the gap by half, I could see things develope nicely for the second half.
So for me, I ain't predicting shit.
To add to your appraisal, Bagget did very well at Tennessee last year. Yes, I know he was on a 250 last year, but I believe he is getting more comfortable on the big bike.
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71Fish 6/5/2015 5:13am
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Yeah but no.
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mimafia 6/5/2015 7:04am
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If Roczen wins 15 of the remaining 18 motos and places 2nd in the other 3 and Dungey wins 3 of the remaining 18 and places 2nd in the other 15....

the final points will be Roczen 534 Dungey 533

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joeellis 6/5/2015 7:11am
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mimafia wrote:
If Roczen wins 15 of the remaining 18 motos and places 2nd in the other 3 and Dungey wins 3 of the remaining 18 and places...
If Roczen wins 15 of the remaining 18 motos and places 2nd in the other 3 and Dungey wins 3 of the remaining 18 and places 2nd in the other 15....

the final points will be Roczen 534 Dungey 533
That's a very tall order. Sounds like Dungey may need a DNF if Ken has a great chance to overtake him.
2strokerider 6/5/2015 7:14am
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will we see a lot of dungey settling for 2nd place if Kenny is out front?
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joeellis 6/5/2015 7:20am
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2strokerider wrote:
will we see a lot of dungey settling for 2nd place if Kenny is out front?
Yeah. I don't expect him to push any harder than he feels he needs to. Some will take that as the easy way out, but if he wins the title, he will still be considered champ. Some can't accept this mindset, but honestly, if any of us were in his position, would we or wouldn't we do the same.

Just to clarify 2 stroke, I'm not referring to you. I'm only replying to your comment which is probably spot on.
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joeellis 6/5/2015 7:24am
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I'll add. It's a shame that Ken didn't begin the season healthy and that Eli crashed out. Then there would be no questioning Dungey's tactics.
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ryandiezic757 6/5/2015 7:54am
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Baggett is only going to get stronger... He's the dark horse Imo
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71Fish 6/5/2015 7:57am
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2strokerider wrote:
will we see a lot of dungey settling for 2nd place if Kenny is out front?
I don't know, he has a wife now who probably likes the win bonus.
Jamie_Munro 6/5/2015 8:05am
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what is the story with Ken's back? Is it healing? Or will it be the same until he has an op? If the same can happen...
what is the story with Ken's back? Is it healing? Or will it be the same until he has an op?

If the same can happen that happened at Hangtown then its going to make things pretty difficult I would have thought
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Epidural will last until season end so the pain should be easier to manage, operation at season end I believe they said. Therefore we hopefully have...
Epidural will last until season end so the pain should be easier to manage, operation at season end I believe they said.

Therefore we hopefully have a racey 94
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From what I understand he has a bone spur that causes him zero pain but the smallest thing can cause the area around it to inflame...
From what I understand he has a bone spur that causes him zero pain but the smallest thing can cause the area around it to inflame and cause sever back spasms...he has not had an epidural.
It was mentioned on the show multiple times the last week or so, wasn't it , I believe it came from Suzuki via weege.
Jamie_Munro 6/5/2015 8:07am
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Jamie_Munro wrote:
Epidural will last until season end so the pain should be easier to manage, operation at season end I believe they said. Therefore we hopefully have...
Epidural will last until season end so the pain should be easier to manage, operation at season end I believe they said.

Therefore we hopefully have a racey 94
RY4N37 wrote:
But unlikely that he will race MXoN if that is true I would think?
Good point. Just going on what was said.

Well clearly he has choices to make when it happens, ama season, mxdn, SX. What's the easiest to get through ?

Jef Pizza 6/5/2015 10:04am
6/5/2015 10:04am
Yep. Ryan Roczen wil win the title. Or Kenny Dungey. Or vice versa.
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RY4N37 6/5/2015 10:13am
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Jamie_Munro wrote:
Good point. Just going on what was said. Well clearly he has choices to make when it happens, ama season, mxdn, SX. What's the easiest to...
Good point. Just going on what was said.

Well clearly he has choices to make when it happens, ama season, mxdn, SX. What's the easiest to get through ?

Given that the AMA season finishes at the end of August, I think that he'll have the op straight after that. Waiting a month till after MXdN will probably put him behind on his SX testing.

That's just how I see it playing out. I'd love it if he raced the MXdN though
Gollob's Steel Shoe 6/5/2015 10:28am
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Gollob's Steel Shoe wrote:
what is the story with Ken's back? Is it healing? Or will it be the same until he has an op? If the same can happen...
what is the story with Ken's back? Is it healing? Or will it be the same until he has an op?

If the same can happen that happened at Hangtown then its going to make things pretty difficult I would have thought
Jamie_Munro wrote:
Epidural will last until season end so the pain should be easier to manage, operation at season end I believe they said. Therefore we hopefully have...
Epidural will last until season end so the pain should be easier to manage, operation at season end I believe they said.

Therefore we hopefully have a racey 94
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yeah epidural also covered here http://racerxonline.com/2015/05/22/racerhead-21?lb ...... judging by the difference he felt between the two motos looks like they should be able to stay on top of it as long as it doesn't deteriorate

knowing this now i'd be very suprised if he rode MXDN but will be a difficult decision as he'd surely be killing Germany's chances if he pulled out
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Dx3moto 6/5/2015 10:28am
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Roczen just needs to stay in it and gain every point possible even if it's behind Dungey in some motos and all he can do is put himself in a position to capitalize if Dungey has a mishap, he's the only one capable of stopping RD right now.
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ChrisB10 6/5/2015 10:34am
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How can people say no? Did you guys watch outdoors last year? Lol cmon
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DownSouth 6/5/2015 11:00am
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ChrisB10 wrote:
How can people say no? Did you guys watch outdoors last year? Lol cmon
Last year they were pretty much evenly matched. Roczen won by 14 points.

This year Roczen has had issues and Dungey has the points lead. So far Roczen has lost points to Dungey in every moto. Ken will get back on form but I do not think he is just going to start dominating and Dungey will be unable to do anything about it.

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Kawapilot 6/5/2015 12:19pm
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ChrisB10 wrote:
How can people say no? Did you guys watch outdoors last year? Lol cmon
DownSouth wrote:
Last year they were pretty much evenly matched. Roczen won by 14 points. This year Roczen has had issues and Dungey has the points lead. So...
Last year they were pretty much evenly matched. Roczen won by 14 points.

This year Roczen has had issues and Dungey has the points lead. So far Roczen has lost points to Dungey in every moto. Ken will get back on form but I do not think he is just going to start dominating and Dungey will be unable to do anything about it.
I think we know more after this weekend. Ken can dominate the battle when he is in top Form. He can be smart and steady enouth to beat a Dungey.
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crf250pilot 6/5/2015 12:44pm
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ryandiezic757 wrote:
Baggett is only going to get stronger... He's the dark horse Imo
Yep, not too late to jump on the Brake Bracket fweight twain, Tyler's driving though.

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