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jeffro503 5/7/2015 7:45pm
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The Source wrote:
No doubt it will be interesting if RV is on the gate.Let's certainly hope so.
Outsider wrote:
Why would it be interesting if a barely top 10 rider is on the gate?
The Source wrote:
Good question. At least it would get the gate count up. It would also be a nice thing for RV to have a opportunity to redeem...
Good question. At least it would get the gate count up. It would also be a nice thing for RV to have a opportunity to redeem his GP career in front of the faithful fans., he deserves that. He will always be one of the top ten great riders in the sport no matter how this season turns out.
Behind the GOAT ( RC ) I think he would be tied with #2 with Stefan Everts and AC222. The thing is that SE72 and AC222 only did MX , they weren't nearly as well rounded as RC and RV because they didn't dominated indoors and outdoors like RC and RV. And yeah they usually always dominated on the other side of the pond too. Including when they raced against AC and SE. And until this year , our partially retired RV gave them a few gifts.

So what that means is , our " part timer " MX riders over here , usually ( I mean usually the past 35 freakin years ) whooped the shit out of everyone else. So take your 5 minutes of glory while you can jagoff , because it won't last long.
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kongols 5/7/2015 9:01pm
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Hey Genius.....the previous points leader in the GP's Clement Desalle Took 2 X 6th place finishes here which were BOTH over 1 minute down! > http://vault.racerxonline.com/rider/clement-desalle/races...
Hey Genius.....the previous points leader in the GP's Clement Desalle Took 2 X 6th place finishes here which were BOTH over 1 minute down! > http://vault.racerxonline.com/rider/clement-desalle/races

IN FACT....RD in 2nd place put CD25 down a good 45 seconds. You Send an American in his very last year of racing , with 1.5yrs off....wins one round and does as well as RV already did.........then compare that to CD25's run over here. Laughing Laughing Laughing

Now lets do even one better. You think CD would qualify for an SX race? maybe? maybe top 15 ?

There is a reason why the USA has won around 90% of the MXoN's over the past 35yrs. There is also a reason why all your previous world champs come here and say " The American Nationals are faster and tougher! "

Different yes! But you take RV from 2013 , and it wouldn't matter where he raced.

Also I will add this.....IF RV isn't out for the remainder of the season and makes it to GH.....he will beat the shit out of everyone who shows up. Badly! You GP guys like to try and base RV's finishes off your stupid logic. When in fact he hasn't ever raced any of those damn tracks. You get him here and it's game over.

It's always us against the world. Because certain pricks belittle us and talk down to us , and all that does is fuel us to go over and kick your fucking ass.
Nationals are faster. Average speed at GP`s is limited to 34 mph. They limit it by track design. I believe Buds Creek average speed is 64 mph. Tougher it`s because of the heat.
Basically you`re back to pre-Qatar chestpounding- GP racers are B class who`d be smoked by 30 sec if not for(enter excuse). Your embarrassing yourself. RV don`t need your bullshit.
Argentina was a brand new track in America. I didn`t see no game over. Your lack of respect for GP racers is troubling. Right now your on par with zook11.
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Crush 5/7/2015 9:24pm
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kongols wrote:
Nationals are faster. Average speed at GP`s is limited to 34 mph. They limit it by track design. I believe Buds Creek average speed is 64...
Nationals are faster. Average speed at GP`s is limited to 34 mph. They limit it by track design. I believe Buds Creek average speed is 64 mph. Tougher it`s because of the heat.
Basically you`re back to pre-Qatar chestpounding- GP racers are B class who`d be smoked by 30 sec if not for(enter excuse). Your embarrassing yourself. RV don`t need your bullshit.
Argentina was a brand new track in America. I didn`t see no game over. Your lack of respect for GP racers is troubling. Right now your on par with zook11.
64mph?

What the fuck, where did that come from? Average speed? No way, that's more than 100 kays, and average assumes there are bits they're going much faster at times... Nope.
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kongols 5/7/2015 9:48pm
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64mph? What the fuck, where did that come from? Average speed? No way, that's more than 100 kays, and average assumes there are bits they're going...
64mph?

What the fuck, where did that come from? Average speed? No way, that's more than 100 kays, and average assumes there are bits they're going much faster at times... Nope.
Sorry I messed up. Its 40 mph at Budds. 64 kph

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Motofinne 5/7/2015 9:55pm
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I agree with Kongols. Jeffro you are as stupid as source. But hey, Mike Alessi will go 1-1, 1.-1 so cheer up!
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RY4N37 5/7/2015 11:33pm
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It sucks really bad that it we've lost RV after only 4 rounds, it definitely added another dimension to the racing. If anything though, this injury...
It sucks really bad that it we've lost RV after only 4 rounds, it definitely added another dimension to the racing. If anything though, this injury might make him more likely to stay and race another year. If he'd have continued this year and ended up not winning the title, he may have just thought 'oh well, I gave it a shot, I'm done now'. Where as being in a position where he was still in with a shout and crashing out much leave him wondering what might have happened had he not got injured.

My point being, I think RV would accept being beaten straight up and still retire happy. I think he would regret retiring having had any chance of winning the world title taken away from him by injury.

Hope to see RV on the line at many more GP's, both this year and throughout 2016
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Riding on the edge and over your head and making unforced mistakes will not win World titles, no one to blame.One thing to consider, did any...
Riding on the edge and over your head and making unforced mistakes will not win World titles, no one to blame.One thing to consider, did any GP rider learn anything new from RV or did RV learn anything new from the GP riders?
I wouldn't say he was riding over his head in general, maybe in that one moment where he crashed he might have been. I suppose at least it was his mistake that caused it. It would suck even more from his point of view to be taken out by getting caught in something that wasn't his fault.

In answer to your question, I think RV probably learned more from the GP guys than vice versa. But if you sent Cairoli or someone to America then they would probably learn more from the American guys. That's just the way it is. There's not a lot between the series, they're just very different. I think there's 1 or 2 guys racing on either side that could probably win anywhere in the world, but other than that, their isn't much difference. Especially now as the AMA seems to get more and more different nationalities competing each season
roundtheoutside 5/7/2015 11:58pm
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No doubt it will be interesting if RV is on the gate.Let's certainly hope so.
Say whatever you want about the source but he knows how to drive a handful of guys up the wall over and over again. lol
crusty_xx 5/8/2015 12:48am
5/8/2015 12:48am
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Hey Genius.....the previous points leader in the GP's Clement Desalle Took 2 X 6th place finishes here which were BOTH over 1 minute down! > http://vault.racerxonline.com/rider/clement-desalle/races...
Hey Genius.....the previous points leader in the GP's Clement Desalle Took 2 X 6th place finishes here which were BOTH over 1 minute down! > http://vault.racerxonline.com/rider/clement-desalle/races

IN FACT....RD in 2nd place put CD25 down a good 45 seconds. You Send an American in his very last year of racing , with 1.5yrs off....wins one round and does as well as RV already did.........then compare that to CD25's run over here. Laughing Laughing Laughing

Now lets do even one better. You think CD would qualify for an SX race? maybe? maybe top 15 ?

There is a reason why the USA has won around 90% of the MXoN's over the past 35yrs. There is also a reason why all your previous world champs come here and say " The American Nationals are faster and tougher! "

Different yes! But you take RV from 2013 , and it wouldn't matter where he raced.

Also I will add this.....IF RV isn't out for the remainder of the season and makes it to GH.....he will beat the shit out of everyone who shows up. Badly! You GP guys like to try and base RV's finishes off your stupid logic. When in fact he hasn't ever raced any of those damn tracks. You get him here and it's game over.

It's always us against the world. Because certain pricks belittle us and talk down to us , and all that does is fuel us to go over and kick your fucking ass.
You just made a complete fool of yourself. Good job
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Alessi 1-1 1-1 ?

Ah ah ah ah ah ah
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jeffro503 wrote:
Hey Genius.....the previous points leader in the GP's Clement Desalle Took 2 X 6th place finishes here which were BOTH over 1 minute down! > http://vault.racerxonline.com/rider/clement-desalle/races...
Hey Genius.....the previous points leader in the GP's Clement Desalle Took 2 X 6th place finishes here which were BOTH over 1 minute down! > http://vault.racerxonline.com/rider/clement-desalle/races

IN FACT....RD in 2nd place put CD25 down a good 45 seconds. You Send an American in his very last year of racing , with 1.5yrs off....wins one round and does as well as RV already did.........then compare that to CD25's run over here. Laughing Laughing Laughing

Now lets do even one better. You think CD would qualify for an SX race? maybe? maybe top 15 ?

There is a reason why the USA has won around 90% of the MXoN's over the past 35yrs. There is also a reason why all your previous world champs come here and say " The American Nationals are faster and tougher! "

Different yes! But you take RV from 2013 , and it wouldn't matter where he raced.

Also I will add this.....IF RV isn't out for the remainder of the season and makes it to GH.....he will beat the shit out of everyone who shows up. Badly! You GP guys like to try and base RV's finishes off your stupid logic. When in fact he hasn't ever raced any of those damn tracks. You get him here and it's game over.

It's always us against the world. Because certain pricks belittle us and talk down to us , and all that does is fuel us to go over and kick your fucking ass.
crusty_xx wrote:
You just made a complete fool of yourself. Good job
A DAMn FOOL OF HIMSELF.
Jamie_Munro 5/8/2015 2:11am
5/8/2015 2:11am
Gutted for RV but I'm not surprised, I'd be off as well if I had 4 fractures down there. Hopefully he's back soon.

Baiters gonna bait btw guys Laughing

Jamie_Munro 5/8/2015 2:12am
5/8/2015 2:12am
The Source wrote:
No doubt it will be interesting if RV is on the gate.Let's certainly hope so.
roundtheoutside wrote:
Say whatever you want about the source but he knows how to drive a handful of guys up the wall over and over again. lol
He is like the Dungey of Vital, consistent.

And also entertaining on occasion Cool
RichardLoots 5/8/2015 3:32am
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You're an idiot. Future sponsors like " Monster " already realized that RV was the fastest SOB on the planet in the best series on the...
You're an idiot.

Future sponsors like " Monster " already realized that RV was the fastest SOB on the planet in the best series on the planet ( SX and USA nationals! ) and it's why he gets paid more than anyone else. Your biased stupidity in your posts make you sound like a complete fucking retard.

You keep doing your little insults without thinking about what ANY of the previous world champs have said about coming here. You take ANY of the GP guys right now , set them on a USA National track and RV would put them 30 - 60 seconds down......I do not give a fuck who it is. RV won a GP there and has had other moto's where he was reeling in the leaders or at least hanging tough and being up inside the top 5.

Reading your drivel is like drinking battery acid you clueless fuck. Every single post you make is something that makes me want to vomit. Hopefully you do me , everyone on this board and your family a favor and get hit by a fucking bus you fucking goon! And get the fuck out of my country!
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30-60 sec down... Yea right... you obviously know what you are talking about.. Wasn't you the guy that made an OP saying "We all know RV...
30-60 sec down... Yea right... you obviously know what you are talking about.. Wasn't you the guy that made an OP saying "We all know RV will win, but with 30 or 45 sec?" or someting like that right before Qatar GP?
jeffro503 wrote:
Hey Genius.....the previous points leader in the GP's Clement Desalle Took 2 X 6th place finishes here which were BOTH over 1 minute down! > http://vault.racerxonline.com/rider/clement-desalle/races...
Hey Genius.....the previous points leader in the GP's Clement Desalle Took 2 X 6th place finishes here which were BOTH over 1 minute down! > http://vault.racerxonline.com/rider/clement-desalle/races

IN FACT....RD in 2nd place put CD25 down a good 45 seconds. You Send an American in his very last year of racing , with 1.5yrs off....wins one round and does as well as RV already did.........then compare that to CD25's run over here. Laughing Laughing Laughing

Now lets do even one better. You think CD would qualify for an SX race? maybe? maybe top 15 ?

There is a reason why the USA has won around 90% of the MXoN's over the past 35yrs. There is also a reason why all your previous world champs come here and say " The American Nationals are faster and tougher! "

Different yes! But you take RV from 2013 , and it wouldn't matter where he raced.

Also I will add this.....IF RV isn't out for the remainder of the season and makes it to GH.....he will beat the shit out of everyone who shows up. Badly! You GP guys like to try and base RV's finishes off your stupid logic. When in fact he hasn't ever raced any of those damn tracks. You get him here and it's game over.

It's always us against the world. Because certain pricks belittle us and talk down to us , and all that does is fuel us to go over and kick your fucking ass.
LMFAO .... thats why we dont like these kind of US fanboys ..... what a load of bull .... keep on making excuses and keep out the results you dont want to mention .....youre even worse as keyboard warrior with his comments .....
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philG 5/8/2015 3:48am
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yet again you pull out a guy racing while on holiday , to back up your delusions.

I know that in a least one of those races , he came from a dead last first turn crash.

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robkinuk 5/8/2015 4:08am
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Maybe Source, Keyboardwarrior and Jeffro are all on a Vital pay per click dealio to keep this place alive?
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burn1986 5/8/2015 4:38am
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The Source wrote:
Riding on the edge and over your head and making unforced mistakes will not win World titles, no one to blame.One thing to consider, did any...
Riding on the edge and over your head and making unforced mistakes will not win World titles, no one to blame.One thing to consider, did any GP rider learn anything new from RV or did RV learn anything new from the GP riders?
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One thing I think we have all learned is that you are a classless piece of trash... RV's wet farts have more class and a better...
One thing I think we have all learned is that you are a classless piece of trash... RV's wet farts have more class and a better smell than you..

You make trolls all over the world look good...

Starving Ethiopian children shed a tear when they read your nonsensical posts...

A guy was begging for change outside the 7-11 today, and when I went to give him a buck he said, "keep it, just tell that assclown the Source to STFU"

So, I gave him $5...


And now I tell you STFU...
Man, that is funny
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Crush 5/8/2015 5:07am
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kongols wrote:
Sorry I messed up. Its 40 mph at Budds. 64 kph
Fuckin hell man, thought you'd lost your shit.
UpTiTe 5/8/2015 7:19am
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jeffro503 wrote:
Hey Genius.....the previous points leader in the GP's Clement Desalle Took 2 X 6th place finishes here which were BOTH over 1 minute down! > http://vault.racerxonline.com/rider/clement-desalle/races...
Hey Genius.....the previous points leader in the GP's Clement Desalle Took 2 X 6th place finishes here which were BOTH over 1 minute down! > http://vault.racerxonline.com/rider/clement-desalle/races

IN FACT....RD in 2nd place put CD25 down a good 45 seconds. You Send an American in his very last year of racing , with 1.5yrs off....wins one round and does as well as RV already did.........then compare that to CD25's run over here. Laughing Laughing Laughing

Now lets do even one better. You think CD would qualify for an SX race? maybe? maybe top 15 ?

There is a reason why the USA has won around 90% of the MXoN's over the past 35yrs. There is also a reason why all your previous world champs come here and say " The American Nationals are faster and tougher! "

Different yes! But you take RV from 2013 , and it wouldn't matter where he raced.

Also I will add this.....IF RV isn't out for the remainder of the season and makes it to GH.....he will beat the shit out of everyone who shows up. Badly! You GP guys like to try and base RV's finishes off your stupid logic. When in fact he hasn't ever raced any of those damn tracks. You get him here and it's game over.

It's always us against the world. Because certain pricks belittle us and talk down to us , and all that does is fuel us to go over and kick your fucking ass.
BUT, at a track that is more geared toward traditional mx, Desalle put 30 seconds on everyone but Dungey.

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RY4N37 5/8/2015 8:32am
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The 'facts' that Jeff came out with have been disputed many times in this forum. The Desalle argument is a very dumb one, he was basically on vacation the last time he raced there, and he has been on the podium in AMA nationals in the past. Also, I can't recall many if any people saying that any of the guys that RV is racing in GP's would beat him on American soil (although I do look forward to the prospect of Herlings being on a big bike at GH) but what difference does that make? They aren't racing in America except for one round. I also fail to see how RV beating them in America would prove anything or be any more impressive than them beating him in Europe.
RichardLoots 5/8/2015 8:51am
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why should i , its just a load of bullshit whats been mentioned before .... like youre new to this forum , you know it has been disputed many times before ... go on and make yours look like a moron around here , youre doing great so far .....
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DP#201 5/8/2015 9:13am
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Oh.. Ill wait, and of cause i expect him to win on US soil, as i would expect Cairoli to win in Lommel. But not by 30-60 sec.. if he does that, it is because he is racing for one win, and to make a statement, while others are trying to win a WC. But seriously, i dont think we will see him any more this year.. his out of it.. unfortunately..
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jeffro503 5/8/2015 9:17am
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why should i , its just a load of bullshit whats been mentioned before .... like youre new to this forum , you know it has...
why should i , its just a load of bullshit whats been mentioned before .... like youre new to this forum , you know it has been disputed many times before ... go on and make yours look like a moron around here , youre doing great so far .....
Look...idiot! I posted facts about what it's like to have American racers , race over there and what GP do when they come here. I didn't post anything that wasn't a fact. The ONLY fact here is , is that when some dipshit like " The source " posts his stupid shit smelling bait in here , I say something because it makes my blood boil a little. What happens?......The GP fucking idiots come in here and start attacking me , when I didn't start shit!

Another fact is that RV himself is twice the racer he was back in 2007. And in 2007 on an American track that he knows ( much like how the GP guys know a lot of their tracks ) , RV completely destroyed everyone on a 250F. Being older , wiser , faster and on a big 450 there are reasons why he destroyed everyone over here. A reason why CD25 was any where from 35sec - 1:13 down against him " Here ".

Have the GP guys destroyed him like that over there? No.
Have any of those GP guys ever done any SX? No.

So yeah , RV does MX part time. Half his career it's been SX. He's been out of outdoor racing for 1.5yrs , and some of you goons come in here and gloat.

The GP racers themselves are awesome no doubt about that. RV is / was out of his element. But at least he had the balls to go over there and try. I would like to see more GP guys come over here and do what CD25 and KS22 did....race some nationals. And hell , if they are as " well rounded " as some of you guys go on boasting about , lets have them line up and do some SX next year.

The GP racers are great. The tracks ( for the most part ) great. The local fantards that frequent this forum.....idiots. And no , I don't mean everyone , just the handful of idiots that just love kicking the American's when they are down. Maybe I would be a little butthurt to if I got my ass kicked for the past 35yrs more times than not.
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DP#201 5/8/2015 9:24am
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jeffro503 wrote:
Hey Genius.....the previous points leader in the GP's Clement Desalle Took 2 X 6th place finishes here which were BOTH over 1 minute down! > http://vault.racerxonline.com/rider/clement-desalle/races...
Hey Genius.....the previous points leader in the GP's Clement Desalle Took 2 X 6th place finishes here which were BOTH over 1 minute down! > http://vault.racerxonline.com/rider/clement-desalle/races

IN FACT....RD in 2nd place put CD25 down a good 45 seconds. You Send an American in his very last year of racing , with 1.5yrs off....wins one round and does as well as RV already did.........then compare that to CD25's run over here. Laughing Laughing Laughing

Now lets do even one better. You think CD would qualify for an SX race? maybe? maybe top 15 ?

There is a reason why the USA has won around 90% of the MXoN's over the past 35yrs. There is also a reason why all your previous world champs come here and say " The American Nationals are faster and tougher! "

Different yes! But you take RV from 2013 , and it wouldn't matter where he raced.

Also I will add this.....IF RV isn't out for the remainder of the season and makes it to GH.....he will beat the shit out of everyone who shows up. Badly! You GP guys like to try and base RV's finishes off your stupid logic. When in fact he hasn't ever raced any of those damn tracks. You get him here and it's game over.

It's always us against the world. Because certain pricks belittle us and talk down to us , and all that does is fuel us to go over and kick your fucking ass.
You mr. are obviously but hurt, wont even argue with you.. However, this was the results i was talking about, and the ones you did not mention http://vault.racerxonline.com/2010-08-14/450/unadilla But any way... You are to Biased to argue with..
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h&m_cycle 5/8/2015 9:24am
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yet again you pull out a guy racing while on holiday , to back up your delusions. I know that in a least one of those...
yet again you pull out a guy racing while on holiday , to back up your delusions.

I know that in a least one of those races , he came from a dead last first turn crash.

I'm wondering where the bikes came from they raced? Was it stock? Who supplied the bike? Works bikes are not allowed

So the great James Stewart couldn't even beat Desalle on a bike that was not his @ Dilla? http://vault.racerxonline.com/2010-08-14/450/unadilla

What's this about James going 24-0 again?
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jeffro503 5/8/2015 9:37am
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jeffro503 wrote:
Hey Genius.....the previous points leader in the GP's Clement Desalle Took 2 X 6th place finishes here which were BOTH over 1 minute down! > http://vault.racerxonline.com/rider/clement-desalle/races...
Hey Genius.....the previous points leader in the GP's Clement Desalle Took 2 X 6th place finishes here which were BOTH over 1 minute down! > http://vault.racerxonline.com/rider/clement-desalle/races

IN FACT....RD in 2nd place put CD25 down a good 45 seconds. You Send an American in his very last year of racing , with 1.5yrs off....wins one round and does as well as RV already did.........then compare that to CD25's run over here. Laughing Laughing Laughing

Now lets do even one better. You think CD would qualify for an SX race? maybe? maybe top 15 ?

There is a reason why the USA has won around 90% of the MXoN's over the past 35yrs. There is also a reason why all your previous world champs come here and say " The American Nationals are faster and tougher! "

Different yes! But you take RV from 2013 , and it wouldn't matter where he raced.

Also I will add this.....IF RV isn't out for the remainder of the season and makes it to GH.....he will beat the shit out of everyone who shows up. Badly! You GP guys like to try and base RV's finishes off your stupid logic. When in fact he hasn't ever raced any of those damn tracks. You get him here and it's game over.

It's always us against the world. Because certain pricks belittle us and talk down to us , and all that does is fuel us to go over and kick your fucking ass.
DP#201 wrote:
You mr. are obviously but hurt, wont even argue with you.. However, this was the results i was talking about, and the ones you did not...
You mr. are obviously but hurt, wont even argue with you.. However, this was the results i was talking about, and the ones you did not mention http://vault.racerxonline.com/2010-08-14/450/unadilla But any way... You are to Biased to argue with..
I didn't bother mentioning them because they were from 2010 is why. AND RV wasn't even on the gate. I only used the 2007 MXoN's as an example because RV beat everyone on a 250F. I'm not here to argue either. I see some guys talk shit , I'll come right back with facts. That's it.
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RichardLoots wrote:
why should i , its just a load of bullshit whats been mentioned before .... like youre new to this forum , you know it has...
why should i , its just a load of bullshit whats been mentioned before .... like youre new to this forum , you know it has been disputed many times before ... go on and make yours look like a moron around here , youre doing great so far .....
jeffro503 wrote:
Look...idiot! I posted facts about what it's like to have American racers , race over there and what GP do when they come here. I didn't...
Look...idiot! I posted facts about what it's like to have American racers , race over there and what GP do when they come here. I didn't post anything that wasn't a fact. The ONLY fact here is , is that when some dipshit like " The source " posts his stupid shit smelling bait in here , I say something because it makes my blood boil a little. What happens?......The GP fucking idiots come in here and start attacking me , when I didn't start shit!

Another fact is that RV himself is twice the racer he was back in 2007. And in 2007 on an American track that he knows ( much like how the GP guys know a lot of their tracks ) , RV completely destroyed everyone on a 250F. Being older , wiser , faster and on a big 450 there are reasons why he destroyed everyone over here. A reason why CD25 was any where from 35sec - 1:13 down against him " Here ".

Have the GP guys destroyed him like that over there? No.
Have any of those GP guys ever done any SX? No.

So yeah , RV does MX part time. Half his career it's been SX. He's been out of outdoor racing for 1.5yrs , and some of you goons come in here and gloat.

The GP racers themselves are awesome no doubt about that. RV is / was out of his element. But at least he had the balls to go over there and try. I would like to see more GP guys come over here and do what CD25 and KS22 did....race some nationals. And hell , if they are as " well rounded " as some of you guys go on boasting about , lets have them line up and do some SX next year.

The GP racers are great. The tracks ( for the most part ) great. The local fantards that frequent this forum.....idiots. And no , I don't mean everyone , just the handful of idiots that just love kicking the American's when they are down. Maybe I would be a little butthurt to if I got my ass kicked for the past 35yrs more times than not.
At his first race RV was 40 and 59 seconds down. CD went 2-2 which you keep forgetting. And he was on a vacation, not in a title chase. What`s wrong with you and your selective memory?
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kongols 5/8/2015 9:46am
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Jeffro, you embarrassing shit out of yourself. RV doesn`t need you to shit on GP racers like you do with all these excuses and what ifs. No one`s shitting on RV like you do on GP racers cause everyone understands the challenges and yet you think that US Nationals is somehow leveling field where everyone`s equal. Fuck, Jeffro, it`s pitiful to read your tantrums. I think I`m done with this thread otherwise it will be hard to pull for RV when he comes to my country.
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RY4N37 5/8/2015 9:46am
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RichardLoots wrote:
why should i , its just a load of bullshit whats been mentioned before .... like youre new to this forum , you know it has...
why should i , its just a load of bullshit whats been mentioned before .... like youre new to this forum , you know it has been disputed many times before ... go on and make yours look like a moron around here , youre doing great so far .....
jeffro503 wrote:
Look...idiot! I posted facts about what it's like to have American racers , race over there and what GP do when they come here. I didn't...
Look...idiot! I posted facts about what it's like to have American racers , race over there and what GP do when they come here. I didn't post anything that wasn't a fact. The ONLY fact here is , is that when some dipshit like " The source " posts his stupid shit smelling bait in here , I say something because it makes my blood boil a little. What happens?......The GP fucking idiots come in here and start attacking me , when I didn't start shit!

Another fact is that RV himself is twice the racer he was back in 2007. And in 2007 on an American track that he knows ( much like how the GP guys know a lot of their tracks ) , RV completely destroyed everyone on a 250F. Being older , wiser , faster and on a big 450 there are reasons why he destroyed everyone over here. A reason why CD25 was any where from 35sec - 1:13 down against him " Here ".

Have the GP guys destroyed him like that over there? No.
Have any of those GP guys ever done any SX? No.

So yeah , RV does MX part time. Half his career it's been SX. He's been out of outdoor racing for 1.5yrs , and some of you goons come in here and gloat.

The GP racers themselves are awesome no doubt about that. RV is / was out of his element. But at least he had the balls to go over there and try. I would like to see more GP guys come over here and do what CD25 and KS22 did....race some nationals. And hell , if they are as " well rounded " as some of you guys go on boasting about , lets have them line up and do some SX next year.

The GP racers are great. The tracks ( for the most part ) great. The local fantards that frequent this forum.....idiots. And no , I don't mean everyone , just the handful of idiots that just love kicking the American's when they are down. Maybe I would be a little butthurt to if I got my ass kicked for the past 35yrs more times than not.
On the whole though GP riders that have gone to America have done very well, but you've used Desalle and Strijbos last mid season trip as the only example.

Roczen won the E/W shoot out in 2011 when he wasn't even racing in America full time, and now has an SX and an MX title over there after only 3 years racing there full time. Pourcel won a SX title very soon after going over there, and should/would have won a MX title if it wasn't for incredibly bad luck. Townley also won a SX title pretty quick and ran RV very close outdoors. Musquin now has a SX title. Desalle has had pretty successful wildcard rides over there. To be honest, I can't really think of any GP riders that have gone to America and failed.

RV may have destroyed the European competition at Budds Creek in 07, but no more so than what Herlings and Cairoli did at Lommel in '12, it was only one event.

So really, your point of RV being better in Europe than GP guys have been in America is, as we say in England, absolute bollocks.
RichardLoots 5/8/2015 10:38am
5/8/2015 10:38am Edited Date/Time 5/8/2015 10:45am
RichardLoots wrote:
why should i , its just a load of bullshit whats been mentioned before .... like youre new to this forum , you know it has...
why should i , its just a load of bullshit whats been mentioned before .... like youre new to this forum , you know it has been disputed many times before ... go on and make yours look like a moron around here , youre doing great so far .....
jeffro503 wrote:
Look...idiot! I posted facts about what it's like to have American racers , race over there and what GP do when they come here. I didn't...
Look...idiot! I posted facts about what it's like to have American racers , race over there and what GP do when they come here. I didn't post anything that wasn't a fact. The ONLY fact here is , is that when some dipshit like " The source " posts his stupid shit smelling bait in here , I say something because it makes my blood boil a little. What happens?......The GP fucking idiots come in here and start attacking me , when I didn't start shit!

Another fact is that RV himself is twice the racer he was back in 2007. And in 2007 on an American track that he knows ( much like how the GP guys know a lot of their tracks ) , RV completely destroyed everyone on a 250F. Being older , wiser , faster and on a big 450 there are reasons why he destroyed everyone over here. A reason why CD25 was any where from 35sec - 1:13 down against him " Here ".

Have the GP guys destroyed him like that over there? No.
Have any of those GP guys ever done any SX? No.

So yeah , RV does MX part time. Half his career it's been SX. He's been out of outdoor racing for 1.5yrs , and some of you goons come in here and gloat.

The GP racers themselves are awesome no doubt about that. RV is / was out of his element. But at least he had the balls to go over there and try. I would like to see more GP guys come over here and do what CD25 and KS22 did....race some nationals. And hell , if they are as " well rounded " as some of you guys go on boasting about , lets have them line up and do some SX next year.

The GP racers are great. The tracks ( for the most part ) great. The local fantards that frequent this forum.....idiots. And no , I don't mean everyone , just the handful of idiots that just love kicking the American's when they are down. Maybe I would be a little butthurt to if I got my ass kicked for the past 35yrs more times than not.
lol ...still a lot of bullshit .... and all those excuses why RV isnt winning ...come on , you really expected him to come over and win it all ? says enough about youre knowledhe and respect for MXGP. And RV not being the same as the RV in 2007 ?? didnt he win anything after 2007 ?? how about all those GP riders that came over and won ?? you try to forget he , only mention the worst results ... ignorant yankee fanboy you are .... i never talked bad about RV , i respect him for coming over and try to win it . I also said from the start he should have signed for 2 years . In my opinion RV is doing great for his first year with a win and good results and points ..... looks like you are dissapointed in RV and now youre talking all this bullshit ....

oh and you forgot to mention , the last MXDN race of RV he was 3rd ...remember ...Herlings as just a 16 year old kid was 2 nd ...... RV is still one of the best , and you cant judge them on a race like BUdds Creek .....
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Motofinne 5/8/2015 11:31am
5/8/2015 11:31am Edited Date/Time 5/8/2015 11:32am
jeffro503 wrote:
Look...idiot! I posted facts about what it's like to have American racers , race over there and what GP do when they come here. I didn't...
Look...idiot! I posted facts about what it's like to have American racers , race over there and what GP do when they come here. I didn't post anything that wasn't a fact. The ONLY fact here is , is that when some dipshit like " The source " posts his stupid shit smelling bait in here , I say something because it makes my blood boil a little. What happens?......The GP fucking idiots come in here and start attacking me , when I didn't start shit!

Another fact is that RV himself is twice the racer he was back in 2007. And in 2007 on an American track that he knows ( much like how the GP guys know a lot of their tracks ) , RV completely destroyed everyone on a 250F. Being older , wiser , faster and on a big 450 there are reasons why he destroyed everyone over here. A reason why CD25 was any where from 35sec - 1:13 down against him " Here ".

Have the GP guys destroyed him like that over there? No.
Have any of those GP guys ever done any SX? No.

So yeah , RV does MX part time. Half his career it's been SX. He's been out of outdoor racing for 1.5yrs , and some of you goons come in here and gloat.

The GP racers themselves are awesome no doubt about that. RV is / was out of his element. But at least he had the balls to go over there and try. I would like to see more GP guys come over here and do what CD25 and KS22 did....race some nationals. And hell , if they are as " well rounded " as some of you guys go on boasting about , lets have them line up and do some SX next year.

The GP racers are great. The tracks ( for the most part ) great. The local fantards that frequent this forum.....idiots. And no , I don't mean everyone , just the handful of idiots that just love kicking the American's when they are down. Maybe I would be a little butthurt to if I got my ass kicked for the past 35yrs more times than not.
I feel like you take these things personal. And for the love of vitalmx stop with the SX thing.

Let me make this clear. There is NO SX IN EUROPE!

How difficult is that to understand?! The fact that European riders are able(not everyone, but a few very talented riders) to win races and championships in US SX is in my opinion amazing. Let's make a series of 10 tracks and all of them are like Lierop and Lommel. Then put all the best riders from the world in it, what is going to happen? Who will win? I don't think i need to answer that. That is the same thing as saying "oh, RV would smoke all the Europeans, Asians, Australians and Africans in SX!"

We don't have these complete SX tracks to ride in Europe, i feel like there will be a day when SX will be big in Europe but at this time SX is nonexistent in Europe. We haven't got the SoCal tracks that guys are able to pound lap after lap every week, our guys don't even touch SX tracks. AX yes, not SX.

And i'm sorry if i offended somebody.

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