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MX is dangerous...plain and simple. Get over it.
I always say I fell down in the driveway, or had gardening accident, or my wife beat me up, but never that I was on a motorcycle if I can avoid it.
Doing something even if it isn't the best thing to do is better than doing nothing in my book. Step 1 we need to mellow out MX courses and return them to their roots. Not flatten them but change the outdoor SX tracks that exist a lot in the US into actual MX tracks.
Alternatively we can do nothing and just keep lying to ourselves that it is the Internet making us more aware of injuries and really nothing needs to be done. MX is dangerous so people running into each other head on, riders hitting equipment on the track, riders getting landed on because of poor flagging is all just part of the sport.....besides you can't make MX safe so why even bother? (insert sarcasm emoticon)
If we are smart about this we get this form to the Asterik Medical Lab and they keep it on a PC or Mac and collect data throughout the season for professional racers as a starting point. Not sure if DC has chimed in on this yet but both MX Sports and Youthstream need to see what the OP has put together.
Where I am coming from now is the same place I was coming from almost 10 years ago regarding being an advocate of sound limits back when the majority of people still thought loud was cool. How well did the booming four strokes work out for tracks and riding areas? Same thing as I see it for safety and unfortunately we are behind just like we were in trying to deal with sound ten years ago. I am hoping with K-Dub speaking up and the subsequent discussions safety will become our number one priority. Time will tell if we can do a safety reset in order to reduce the carnage.
No one is trying to make it safe nor does anyone think MX will ever be safe.
It is my opinion (not saying I am right) that it IS possible to reduce the amount and degree of severity of accidents by just using our heads and using more COMMON SENSE when it comes to our sport.
To everyone: If it was your kid and if his life was saved by because he didn't take a footpeg into his spine because of his his spine was covered by padding (or air) and plastic might your opinion be a bit different on mandatory spinal protection? To clarify I am NOT talking about neck braces.
BTW Chad Reed stated what safety equipment he uses is his decision and I respect his position. My only response is NASCAR would not agree with him.
EDIT: We are not alone. Look at the concussion issues in football and all sports for that matter. The masses are waking up to the importance of our lives outside the sport. I hate change...I don't even like surprises for the most part because I am a planner but in this case I fully embrace change. I would rather embrace change and wind up with different version of what we have today (Scramblecross is on the right track) than see us wind up with a sport where we have dwindling Vet and Senior classes. Last time I looked these are the people that are buying most of the gear and bikes. We are talking our long term survival here.
The digital age is robbing us of recruits......think about it.
Or govt agency want s to throw their suggestion in. Poof, half the people are yanked up for smoking a joint 3 weeks prior.
You don't need to be a rocket scientist or bean counter to realize its the young age and size of jumps out there.
BTW: I am MMS_BoNalls from MCM2.
there's prolly a lot of other points i don't think about but that's the problem I guess before something gets done it needs to go horribly wrong 1st.
flaggers must always be visible, waving the flag, sometimes a rider can't see the flag because of the sun. it doesn't take long to find out you can hardly see a flagger between 2 and 4 pm because of the sun. do something about it.
flaggers must know what to do sometimes its a friend of you with no experience around motocross that ends up flagging for you a couple of classes. they must get proper instructions.
this big speed difference on practice days. 65cc with the big guys.
or even when they let some classes race together because there isn't a lot of entries in those classes and they struggle with the limited time they have for all classes to practice and ride 2 moto's.
And whatsupp with doing big jumps when there's a inexperienced rider in front of you? I seen that go wrong too many times.
strict rules around jumping and passing when there's a yellow flag. on every level of racing. if its amateurs hobby or pro.
Always have flaggers even on practice days on some tracks there is no policy for this. luckily there's concerned family members and spectators that will stand there. but sometimes there's no one standing on a jump you can't look behind as a rider until you in the air and find out someone went down behind it.
pay attention where you leave and enter the track. 2 years ago someone in front of me left the track near his RV without looking behind him. maybe have 1 save low speed corner to enter and leave the track.
I had a big crash once, broke a lot of bones + multiple surgeries as a 14 year old. so get put in this way to small first aid loft, bed against the wall and limited room to move around me the medical staff had to flip me over on the bed a couple of times to get most of the clothing and protection off. I don't remember anything of this day but still.
and protection of course I don't think it should be riders choice to wear or not to wear knee caps a body protector ect.
I like some of what this is intended to do, but I did talk to some folks this weekend who said it's obvious that this was created by someone who's never had to deal with litigation. They also had some concerns about the subjectivity about how some of the questions are worded. As an example, if there's a crash, why would it necessarily be a bad design of a track feature? Isn't it possible that the rider ran out of talent?
As a thought, how exactly will keeping this list of injuries make the sport safer?
If we really want numbers, the NIH and the CPSC would probably love to compile some numbers for the sport, but I doubt most would like the end result.........
Pit Row
GuyB-How long have pro injuries been tracked?
Do you have any other suggestions (besides go somewhere else) since not everyone has an open ear that manages a track?
Like motogrady said you don't have to me a rocket scientist to realize the size of the jumps today are the leading cause of injuries. Regarding the list if a lot of people weren't so hard headed we wouldn't need to compile historical data to prove what is apparent to most of us that don't subscribe to the "racing is dangerous get used to it" mentality.
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