JS7 speaks with Matthes

Wasatch Rider wrote:

I enjoyed James on the Pulpshow prior and this interview. However, there is a big difference between therapeutic use and PED use. And there is no...

I enjoyed James on the Pulpshow prior and this interview.

However, there is a big difference between therapeutic use and PED use. And there is no stopping someone from taking a PED sized dose.

Plus, its amazingly easy to get a TUE, for ANY banned substance. And in 3 days you can test 100% clean unless you're an idiot no matter what you're on.

This whole testing gig is Bullshit.

TripleFive wrote:

HGH would help with recovery and would keep a rider fresh throughout the year. Top riders don't need this? It's not blood doping, but it still...

HGH would help with recovery and would keep a rider fresh throughout the year. Top riders don't need this?

It's not blood doping, but it still is PED use.

the_wood109 wrote:

It would, wouldn't it? Who uses it? Better yet: why haven't they been caught?

TripleFive wrote:

Because testing is inadequate. The tests are intelligence tests not drug tests. They will only catch the idiots.

Wasatch Rider wrote:

I enjoyed James on the Pulpshow prior and this interview. However, there is a big difference between therapeutic use and PED use. And there is no...

I enjoyed James on the Pulpshow prior and this interview.

However, there is a big difference between therapeutic use and PED use. And there is no stopping someone from taking a PED sized dose.

Plus, its amazingly easy to get a TUE, for ANY banned substance. And in 3 days you can test 100% clean unless you're an idiot no matter what you're on.

This whole testing gig is Bullshit.

Lucifa. wrote:

The TUE does state how much a person can take and if they're outside that limit well..... So yes, you just can't go crazy on the...

The TUE does state how much a person can take and if they're outside that limit well..... So yes, you just can't go crazy on the shit.

And no it's not "easy to get a TUE". You do know who signs off on the TUE right? It's not his doctor.

Justride251 wrote:

Race if your going to put up a post like that with all these facts alteast have all your facts right James said in the transworld...

Race if your going to put up a post like that with all these facts alteast have all your facts right James said in the transworld interview that the night in Seattle he told WADA he was taking adderal and he had his prescription with him and James stayed the same thing in racerx podcast. So he never checked no to not taking anything in the paper work on that night Seattle.

Sir Roostsalot wrote:

The only thing I got from the interview aside from the fact that he is guilty is that the also seems to have a gross misconception...

The only thing I got from the interview aside from the fact that he is guilty is that the also seems to have a gross misconception of reality. You couldn't use all the fingers on one hand to count the number of times he beat RC, and the donut part was an insult to RC. Like Lance Armstrong he shows megalomaniac personality traits, almost as if he sees himself in an exaggerated light. It's obvious he has not learned anything, and when he does return it's gonna be a joke. If he was unable to focus before he'll be an even bigger wreck now.

Justride251 wrote:

Race if your going to put up a post like that with all these facts alteast have all your facts right James said in the transworld...

Race if your going to put up a post like that with all these facts alteast have all your facts right James said in the transworld interview that the night in Seattle he told WADA he was taking adderal and he had his prescription with him and James stayed the same thing in racerx podcast. So he never checked no to not taking anything in the paper work on that night Seattle.

race wrote:

Well, those aren't "my facts" ... or did you not notice this bit at the start? [b]"These are questions that MXA received about the James Stewart...

Well, those aren't "my facts" ... or did you not notice this bit at the start?

"These are questions that MXA received about the James Stewart doping scandal. Hold on to your hat."

And I then enclosed THEIR facts in quotes. If you are disputing anything they reported on - and I assume investigated to some degree - take it up with them.

My main point in posting that was to show how WADA already have a precedent for an 18-month penalty for using a banned substance so they are pretty much locked in. James can appeal but not sure what good it will do. What are they supposed to say to Anthony West if James gets let off with a lesser penalty. West would possibly turn around and sue them.

And as they mentioned James has played fast and loose with some of this.

Sir Roostsalot wrote:

The only thing I got from the interview aside from the fact that he is guilty is that the also seems to have a gross misconception...

The only thing I got from the interview aside from the fact that he is guilty is that the also seems to have a gross misconception of reality. You couldn't use all the fingers on one hand to count the number of times he beat RC, and the donut part was an insult to RC. Like Lance Armstrong he shows megalomaniac personality traits, almost as if he sees himself in an exaggerated light. It's obvious he has not learned anything, and when he does return it's gonna be a joke. If he was unable to focus before he'll be an even bigger wreck now.

the_wood109 wrote:

Big words, but the same amount of stupid. You have no idea what you are talking about.

MXGooner wrote:

I like bubba

Justride251 wrote:

Race if your going to put up a post like that with all these facts alteast have all your facts right James said in the transworld...

Race if your going to put up a post like that with all these facts alteast have all your facts right James said in the transworld interview that the night in Seattle he told WADA he was taking adderal and he had his prescription with him and James stayed the same thing in racerx podcast. So he never checked no to not taking anything in the paper work on that night Seattle.

race wrote:

Well, those aren't "my facts" ... or did you not notice this bit at the start? [b]"These are questions that MXA received about the James Stewart...

Well, those aren't "my facts" ... or did you not notice this bit at the start?

"These are questions that MXA received about the James Stewart doping scandal. Hold on to your hat."

And I then enclosed THEIR facts in quotes. If you are disputing anything they reported on - and I assume investigated to some degree - take it up with them.

My main point in posting that was to show how WADA already have a precedent for an 18-month penalty for using a banned substance so they are pretty much locked in. James can appeal but not sure what good it will do. What are they supposed to say to Anthony West if James gets let off with a lesser penalty. West would possibly turn around and sue them.

And as they mentioned James has played fast and loose with some of this.

Moto75 wrote:

I couldn't get through your post.

2nd sentence in & I knew it was the same old biased hater shit.

Regis wrote:

You calling me a biased hater? That's laughable. I'm a huge JS7 fan and what he does in a motorcycle is super human. You couldn't be...

You calling me a biased hater? That's laughable. I'm a huge JS7 fan and what he does in a motorcycle is super human.

You couldn't be further from the truth. I just want an even playing field in our sport and it starts with enforcing the rules for all competitors. WADA doesn't care who JS7 is. They aren't making him the "guinea pig" or making an example out if him. He got 16 months because they retroactived his suspension back to when he tested positive.

It doesn't matter if you are the biggest draw to the sport or the three digit rider in the way back of the pits. It's pretty simple.

moose man wrote:

Even playing feild bull shit coming from a dip shit u put this out there like he was taking some kind of steroid with anyone and...

Even playing feild bull shit coming from a dip shit u put this out there like he was taking some kind of steroid with anyone and every one knows it doesn't help in any way so why a year of being suspended? It was a bull shit call

Wasatch Rider wrote:

I enjoyed James on the Pulpshow prior and this interview. However, there is a big difference between therapeutic use and PED use. And there is no...

I enjoyed James on the Pulpshow prior and this interview.

However, there is a big difference between therapeutic use and PED use. And there is no stopping someone from taking a PED sized dose.

Plus, its amazingly easy to get a TUE, for ANY banned substance. And in 3 days you can test 100% clean unless you're an idiot no matter what you're on.

This whole testing gig is Bullshit.

Lucifa. wrote:

The TUE does state how much a person can take and if they're outside that limit well..... So yes, you just can't go crazy on the...

The TUE does state how much a person can take and if they're outside that limit well..... So yes, you just can't go crazy on the shit.

And no it's not "easy to get a TUE". You do know who signs off on the TUE right? It's not his doctor.

Regis wrote:

I couldn't get through it. The explanation he gives and trying to push it off on the powers that be came off as smoke and mirrors...

I couldn't get through it.

The explanation he gives and trying to push it off on the powers that be came off as smoke and mirrors to me.

The rules are there. His punishment isn't any worse than anyone else's who has been popped for the same thing in any other sport. It doesn't matter what anyone's opinion of Adderall is, it's against the rules unless a TUE is in place BEFORE getting caught. As a world class athlete and a champion of the sport that is taking a medication, he or his camp can not expect MXports, FIM or AMA to "make sure he knew it wasn't legal". They didn't know he was taking it, the rules state you can't.

In the eyes of the rules, he was cheating. Taking something without telling someone or clearing it and calling foul after the fact sucks because I am a fan. But it's not taking responsibility as he should.

Getting a TUE after the fact does not make it ok. Or prove he was playing by the rules. It just looks more shady. (imo)

I hope he gets to line up at the outdoors, but I wish it was because he took responsibility, accepted he was out of the rules and the process of appeals reduces his suspension.

Maybe later in the the interview he does, but I couldn't get past he or Matthes acting as if it was the sports fault he didnt know the rules.

Moto75 wrote:

I couldn't get through your post.

2nd sentence in & I knew it was the same old biased hater shit.

moose man wrote:

He wasn't popped for any thing other then not filling out there dam peace of paper this is a stupid call by the fim guys they...

He wasn't popped for any thing other then not filling out there dam peace of paper this is a stupid call by the fim guys they fucked up on suspending JS7 for a year its total bull shit fine the guy dock points but don't take him out of racing over him not signing a peace of paper.

Regis wrote:

But that's not what he got popped for.

He got popped for having a banned substance in his system.

moose man wrote:

The band substance in his system was his adhd medication that 5 days after they took the test became a legal substance In the rule books...

The band substance in his system was his adhd medication that 5 days after they took the test became a legal substance In the rule books because he was not the only rider taking it they simple got pissed at him for not filling out the paperwork and telling them ahead of time ........so its now a legal substance in the rule bookso I guess its not really a stimulant because if it was it would still be illegal. So try and find some other bullshit to come up with

FreshTopEnd wrote:

I thought it was a great interview, but on the PED part it sounded like he, and maybe a lot of the industry, never understood what...

I thought it was a great interview, but on the PED part it sounded like he, and maybe a lot of the industry, never understood what they signed up for and who was responsible for what and how bad it would be if it broke down because no one took the time to see what was required of them. And it sounds like that may still be the case now.

And maybe a little premature to discuss it before the panel as reached its decision.

FreshTopEnd wrote:

I thought it was a great interview, but on the PED part it sounded like he, and maybe a lot of the industry, never understood what...

I thought it was a great interview, but on the PED part it sounded like he, and maybe a lot of the industry, never understood what they signed up for and who was responsible for what and how bad it would be if it broke down because no one took the time to see what was required of them. And it sounds like that may still be the case now.

And maybe a little premature to discuss it before the panel as reached its decision.

jeffro503 wrote:

I kind of find that hard to believe though man. Just about every professional sport on the planet has players and so forth getting busted right...

I kind of find that hard to believe though man. Just about every professional sport on the planet has players and so forth getting busted right and left for Adderall. Why would this sport be any different? In a court of law ( as you would know ) ....being ignorant about the law is no excuse. The guys crying that suspension is too long just DO NOT understand that he got caught with Adderall " Before " he got his Tue. They some how think that getting a TUE after words , makes everything ok ,and the FIM / Wada should just forget about it.

These same guys crying foul , are the exact same group that would be on here crucifying guys like RV , RD , Trey , Tomac and the like.

I don't like it any more than they do that James is sitting on the bench! But if everyone else can play by the rules , that means everyone should. Other athletes that have been busted for the exact same thing , got a stiffer penalty.

FreshTopEnd wrote:

I thought it was a great interview, but on the PED part it sounded like he, and maybe a lot of the industry, never understood what...

I thought it was a great interview, but on the PED part it sounded like he, and maybe a lot of the industry, never understood what they signed up for and who was responsible for what and how bad it would be if it broke down because no one took the time to see what was required of them. And it sounds like that may still be the case now.

And maybe a little premature to discuss it before the panel as reached its decision.

jeffro503 wrote:

I kind of find that hard to believe though man. Just about every professional sport on the planet has players and so forth getting busted right...

I kind of find that hard to believe though man. Just about every professional sport on the planet has players and so forth getting busted right and left for Adderall. Why would this sport be any different? In a court of law ( as you would know ) ....being ignorant about the law is no excuse. The guys crying that suspension is too long just DO NOT understand that he got caught with Adderall " Before " he got his Tue. They some how think that getting a TUE after words , makes everything ok ,and the FIM / Wada should just forget about it.

These same guys crying foul , are the exact same group that would be on here crucifying guys like RV , RD , Trey , Tomac and the like.

I don't like it any more than they do that James is sitting on the bench! But if everyone else can play by the rules , that means everyone should. Other athletes that have been busted for the exact same thing , got a stiffer penalty.

Regis wrote:

You calling me a biased hater? That's laughable. I'm a huge JS7 fan and what he does in a motorcycle is super human. You couldn't be...

You calling me a biased hater? That's laughable. I'm a huge JS7 fan and what he does in a motorcycle is super human.

You couldn't be further from the truth. I just want an even playing field in our sport and it starts with enforcing the rules for all competitors. WADA doesn't care who JS7 is. They aren't making him the "guinea pig" or making an example out if him. He got 16 months because they retroactived his suspension back to when he tested positive.

It doesn't matter if you are the biggest draw to the sport or the three digit rider in the way back of the pits. It's pretty simple.

moose man wrote:

Even playing feild bull shit coming from a dip shit u put this out there like he was taking some kind of steroid with anyone and...

Even playing feild bull shit coming from a dip shit u put this out there like he was taking some kind of steroid with anyone and every one knows it doesn't help in any way so why a year of being suspended? It was a bull shit call

jasen.bougher wrote:

Clearly you're not up to par but adderall is 100% used as a performance enhancing drug. as a matter of fact is one of the fastest...

Clearly you're not up to par but adderall is 100% used as a performance enhancing drug. as a matter of fact is one of the fastest growing and almost every pro athlete cleared to use it is cheating and doesn't need it. But now you can continue with your thinking it doesn't do anything

craaigo wrote:

Your a fucking tool. He went to like 5 different doctors for wada to get the tue. They approved him for it because of what these...

Your a fucking tool. He went to like 5 different doctors for wada to get the tue. They approved him for it because of what these doctors said.

FreshTopEnd wrote:

I thought it was a great interview, but on the PED part it sounded like he, and maybe a lot of the industry, never understood what...

I thought it was a great interview, but on the PED part it sounded like he, and maybe a lot of the industry, never understood what they signed up for and who was responsible for what and how bad it would be if it broke down because no one took the time to see what was required of them. And it sounds like that may still be the case now.

And maybe a little premature to discuss it before the panel as reached its decision.

jeffro503 wrote:

I kind of find that hard to believe though man. Just about every professional sport on the planet has players and so forth getting busted right...

I kind of find that hard to believe though man. Just about every professional sport on the planet has players and so forth getting busted right and left for Adderall. Why would this sport be any different? In a court of law ( as you would know ) ....being ignorant about the law is no excuse. The guys crying that suspension is too long just DO NOT understand that he got caught with Adderall " Before " he got his Tue. They some how think that getting a TUE after words , makes everything ok ,and the FIM / Wada should just forget about it.

These same guys crying foul , are the exact same group that would be on here crucifying guys like RV , RD , Trey , Tomac and the like.

I don't like it any more than they do that James is sitting on the bench! But if everyone else can play by the rules , that means everyone should. Other athletes that have been busted for the exact same thing , got a stiffer penalty.

gsxrcr28 wrote:

Some of the people I've heard "cry foul" or saying that the penalty doesn't fit the crime are DC, McGrath and the president of the AMA...

Some of the people I've heard "cry foul" or saying that the penalty doesn't fit the crime are DC, McGrath and the president of the AMA. In the TWMX interveiw James admitted it was his fault for not reading all the paperwork. As FTE said, I think much of the industry was unaware of how severe the penalty could be, especially for something you've been prescribed for years. James said the FIM guy handling the case said he was sorry James was going through this, and the rules were not designed to catch someone like him. Being that they have now granted him a TUE that seems to be the case. It's seems to be an honest mistake, just like when RV jumped on the red light and then on the Red Cross flags. Personally I'd be more upset if this happened to a privateer, or someone who can't afford to appeal. But I do agree with you about knowing who will say what, depending on who the rider is. Many are very predictable who they will have negative comments about.

Justride251 wrote:

I will insert foot in mouth now. I missed the beginning I must have scrolled past it with out noticing which is hard to believe since...

I will insert foot in mouth now. I missed the beginning I must have scrolled past it with out noticing which is hard to believe since it is there plain as day. I understand your point about the Anthony west case. I wonder if west appealed his penalty since WADA appealed his sentence from FIM? If not could that be the reason they could let James off say he won his appeal basically telling west he should have appealed just a thought

jeffro503 wrote:

Chip I totally get what you're saying man , and I agree with most everything you post. My point was guys saying that there shouldn't of...

Chip I totally get what you're saying man , and I agree with most everything you post. My point was guys saying that there shouldn't of been any punishment and so forth. Other athletes that went on to get their TUE's passed after words , still had to go through their suspension if they had nothing in place before their tests.

Now on the prescription thing , it had only been since 2012 when James started using it. 1.5yrs later is when he got caught. Not " Multiple years " as what you are trying to say.There are two things that bug me about this whole thing...

1.) He started using it some how after he visited the Seattle Seahawks locker rooms. haha , I know that sounds stupid , and it hurts me to say that , because the Seahawks are my damn team! Shortly after , Sherman gets busted for adderall. It's conspiracy theory here , but to many things line up after that! Makes me wonder what the fuck he said to James!

2,) I still do not believe any professional athlete , team , coach ect....are oblivious to what adderall is and why some people use it as an advantage.

Knowing full well MOST athletes take it for an advantage , you would think any professional athlete that really does need it , would be the first in line to get a TUE filed. Saying " Hey!....I need this stuff , my doctors say so ".

Saying a professional athlete doesn't know anything about it possibly being illegal , in my eyes , is a crock of shit. If a guy really does need it ( which I think James must ).....then it's beyond stupid to not think you would need a TUE for it. I can't relay how stupid that sounds....borderline retarded is more like it! College and some HS teams get tested!

The list of athletes banned for a longer period of time than James , for the exact same thing , is very long! Their suspensions were longer than James. 6 months longer to be exact for the exact same thing on their first offense.

Do I hate it that he's suspended....YES!
Did he get a shorter sentence than others for the first time...YES!
Have other athletes gone on and got their TUE's accepted after...YES!

It is a bummer...YES , it is. But the sentence he got was shortened.

@ Hut....brother , we need drug tests done in this sport! Otherwise everyone goes apeshit.

TripleFive wrote:

Should have called him on the IV incident.