Someone pleeeese field a 2-stroke rider in SX!

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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 6:57am
With the Detroit round scratched from the 09' sked, I'm looking at having to drive to Indy to catch some live action. i got to thinking about the highlights of the past few live Supercrosses I've seen and I gotta say that Stanton's "slow lap" last year was right up at the top. It wasn't the riding or even the rider, but the sound of that crisp factory 2-stroke barking out as he clutched it over a few small doubles that got my blood flowing. With Yamaha, Suzuki (I think) and KTM still selling 2-strokes, wouldn't it behoove them to have a top-20 rider out there on one? I know all about the competitive advantage the 4-strokes have, so I know we'll never see a top-10 rider on one. But face it...there are some riders who may actually do better on a 2-stroke (Mike Brown comes to mind, and he's associated with KTM now...ding ding ding!). The fan interest would be there (I'd have flown to Atlanta last year just to see RC bust a lap a couple laps on the RM250 if I'd have known about it).

I know I'm beating a dead horse, but I have time on my hands tonight....
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11/14/2008 4:38pm
Couldnt agree with you more. Maybe on a friday
night do a 2 stroke only race... So many possibilities
we will prolly never see haha. Tough shit I guess.
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I think that a rookies only 125 class would be great! Its pretty intense to send these 16 year olds out there against guys like Villopoto with no supercross race experience. I know they are capable and often win races, but wouldnt it be good to get their feet wet the year before.
I think you make it a class for 15 year olds and up, rookie year only, 125 2-stroke only, each rider can participate in 3 rounds throughout the year. Their qualifying races would be during the day between practice sessions and the main would be during that long break before the night-show starts.
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RanelC10 wrote:
I think that a rookies only 125 class would be great! Its pretty intense to send these 16 year olds out there against guys like Villopoto...
I think that a rookies only 125 class would be great! Its pretty intense to send these 16 year olds out there against guys like Villopoto with no supercross race experience. I know they are capable and often win races, but wouldnt it be good to get their feet wet the year before.
I think you make it a class for 15 year olds and up, rookie year only, 125 2-stroke only, each rider can participate in 3 rounds throughout the year. Their qualifying races would be during the day between practice sessions and the main would be during that long break before the night-show starts.
x2 That would be sweet.

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RanelC10 wrote:
I think that a rookies only 125 class would be great! Its pretty intense to send these 16 year olds out there against guys like Villopoto...
I think that a rookies only 125 class would be great! Its pretty intense to send these 16 year olds out there against guys like Villopoto with no supercross race experience. I know they are capable and often win races, but wouldnt it be good to get their feet wet the year before.
I think you make it a class for 15 year olds and up, rookie year only, 125 2-stroke only, each rider can participate in 3 rounds throughout the year. Their qualifying races would be during the day between practice sessions and the main would be during that long break before the night-show starts.
Moto547 wrote:
x2 That would be sweet.
Absolutely.

Brilliant.

So often in life, it appears our two-stroke smoking section is relegated

to the neglected area of the spectrum - it's time we spoke up,

grabbed the megaphone and collectively hollered :

" Yo, we still want TWO-STROKES racing MOTOCROSS.

DAMMIT."
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Last year I showed up early in Atlanta and witnessed RC pegging an RM250 around the track. Was music to the ears...


two strokes are still alive in the amateurs, for sure! Plenty of power to still be competitive.
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what are we going to do when they have no sound and we are all racing electrics?
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YZ441 wrote:
what are we going to do when they have no sound and we are all racing electrics?
better than a 4 joke Whistling
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Maybe now they've dumped the KTM kids race they could have a 2 puffer race during the intermission, say pre '95 as well just to get every brand in there.
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englishman wrote:
Maybe now they've dumped the KTM kids race they could have a 2 puffer race during the intermission, say pre '95 as well just to get...
Maybe now they've dumped the KTM kids race they could have a 2 puffer race during the intermission, say pre '95 as well just to get every brand in there.
the "pre 95" thing would be kind of stupid
but I WILL GIVE YOU it is a lot better than
some fmx demo...
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Let 'em run leaded gas and you'd probably have several two strokes out there. Not in the 250 class, but in the 450 class.
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englishman wrote:
Maybe now they've dumped the KTM kids race they could have a 2 puffer race during the intermission, say pre '95 as well just to get...
Maybe now they've dumped the KTM kids race they could have a 2 puffer race during the intermission, say pre '95 as well just to get every brand in there.
Moto547 wrote:
the "pre 95" thing would be kind of stupid
but I WILL GIVE YOU it is a lot better than
some fmx demo...
O.K drop the pre '95 then , be bloody good I reckon.Woohoo
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Last year I showed up early in Atlanta and witnessed RC pegging an RM250 around the track. Was music to the ears... two strokes are still...
Last year I showed up early in Atlanta and witnessed RC pegging an RM250 around the track. Was music to the ears...


two strokes are still alive in the amateurs, for sure! Plenty of power to still be competitive.
Sure, when the rules are changed, the two strokes can be competitive.

I think with the OEM's dumping the technologically inferior pieces of shit are a sign of the times.
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Bubba should. Just to spite Reed.

It would create drama, a show, and Interest to watch the new guy race the old champs bike he won on.

SX is a drag nowadays.

Plus, Bubba on a 2 stroke just sounds bad ass. He'd win on a 125 probably.

And for those that think 2 strokes arent competitive, how come Tedesco cant beat RC's 250 on his 450?

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2 strokes are gone.....please adjust to the present or stop altogether!
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11/14/2008 8:23pm
What's the two stroke fascination? I grew up on two-strokes and they are definitely fun to ride, but as soon as I hopped on a YZ426 I was in love. Plus, four strokes sound meaner and thus cooler.
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that is the first time I have ever heard anyone say that 4 strokes sound meaner....
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11/14/2008 8:46pm Edited Date/Time 11/14/2008 8:48pm
Castor Oil wrote:
Bubba should. Just to spite Reed. It would create drama, a show, and Interest to watch the new guy race the old champs bike he won...
Bubba should. Just to spite Reed.

It would create drama, a show, and Interest to watch the new guy race the old champs bike he won on.

SX is a drag nowadays.

Plus, Bubba on a 2 stroke just sounds bad ass. He'd win on a 125 probably.

And for those that think 2 strokes arent competitive, how come Tedesco cant beat RC's 250 on his 450?

uuuuummmm... are u dumb? Thats exactly it. You answered your own question. It's RC's 250. RC... the GOAT. Tedesco is good, but not on the level of RC. It all depends on the rider. If you put RC on the 450 and Tedesco on the 250, then RC is going to kick the 250's ass. Plain and simple.
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The best thing about all this 2 stroke talk is that nobody goes out and buys them. You know who killed the two stroke? The people who actually buy bikes.
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WORCSRacer wrote:
The best thing about all this 2 stroke talk is that nobody goes out and buys them. You know who killed the two stroke? The people...
The best thing about all this 2 stroke talk is that nobody goes out and buys them. You know who killed the two stroke? The people who actually buy bikes.
Well played sir well played
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nothing sounds better than "James Stewart pinnin' his KX125" on youtube.
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WORCSRacer wrote:
The best thing about all this 2 stroke talk is that nobody goes out and buys them. You know who killed the two stroke? The people...
The best thing about all this 2 stroke talk is that nobody goes out and buys them. You know who killed the two stroke? The people who actually buy bikes.
The AMA killed the 2 stroke with affirmative action for the four stroke.............still going on today,

With most bikes racing today four strokes, why do they still get double the displacement advantage?

There's a reason the AMA cleaned house this year,,,,,,,,they are all goobers.
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11/14/2008 11:19pm Edited Date/Time 11/14/2008 11:20pm
I'm gonna listen to my smoker tomorrow. The track got some snow this morning, and it soaked in. It'll most definitely be some fun tomorrow. Gonna wring that baby out, and smell that Castor. Ain't gonna be no poppin' of a rev limiter. This is no-limits powerband at its best.
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john1753 wrote:
nothing sounds better than "James Stewart pinnin' his KX125" on youtube.
Actually I prefer the sound when I'm riding one myself....

but I get your point
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Last year I showed up early in Atlanta and witnessed RC pegging an RM250 around the track. Was music to the ears... two strokes are still...
Last year I showed up early in Atlanta and witnessed RC pegging an RM250 around the track. Was music to the ears...


two strokes are still alive in the amateurs, for sure! Plenty of power to still be competitive.
Spinner wrote:
Sure, when the rules are changed, the two strokes can be competitive. I think with the OEM's dumping the technologically inferior pieces of shit are a...
Sure, when the rules are changed, the two strokes can be competitive.

I think with the OEM's dumping the technologically inferior pieces of shit are a sign of the times.
your an idiot.. the rules were changed in the big heavy ugly four stroke favor.... they need nearly twice the cc's to compete against 2 strokes. race a kx 250 against a kxf250.... and there is no comparson.

All four strokes did was allow novices to clear obsticles out of tight corners..... real talent is still a a 2 stroke kept on the pipe and flyng around a track. Not a peice of crap four stroke sounding like a big fat elephant fart..... how anyone can like a four stroke is beyond me.
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WORCSRacer wrote:
The best thing about all this 2 stroke talk is that nobody goes out and buys them. You know who killed the two stroke? The people...
The best thing about all this 2 stroke talk is that nobody goes out and buys them. You know who killed the two stroke? The people who actually buy bikes.
don't blame me. i still ride and race a two stroke.
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WORCSRacer wrote:
The best thing about all this 2 stroke talk is that nobody goes out and buys them. You know who killed the two stroke? The people...
The best thing about all this 2 stroke talk is that nobody goes out and buys them. You know who killed the two stroke? The people who actually buy bikes.
That is incorrect old chap.
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MX7MX wrote:
2 strokes are gone.....please adjust to the present or stop altogether!


Why the hostility toward two-strokes? Move to four strokes or quit? Get real.

It's just an alternative....still competitive...the are all over amateur tracks. If people have fun riding them and it allows more people to ride than why complain?

I guess all those 85cc riders are just anachronistic dinosaurs clinging to the past..bwahahahahaha
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MX7MX wrote:
2 strokes are gone.....please adjust to the present or stop altogether!
Why the hostility toward two-strokes? Move to four strokes or quit? Get real. It's just an alternative....still competitive...the are all over amateur tracks. If people have...


Why the hostility toward two-strokes? Move to four strokes or quit? Get real.

It's just an alternative....still competitive...the are all over amateur tracks. If people have fun riding them and it allows more people to ride than why complain?

I guess all those 85cc riders are just anachronistic dinosaurs clinging to the past..bwahahahahaha
Oh Snap !! Woohoo

My Dad used to have a 2 stroke car back in the day ! Some East German P.O.S .

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