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Many of us on this board have said we will not get our sons/daughters into the sport on the race side. We might take them to go ride woods and trails bit not race. What kids on 65's, 85, 105's are jumping is absolutely stupid
You have current and former pros saying that it is too dangerous . Yet people on here with NO pro (or even major am national experience) saying that it is not all that dangerous and nothing needs to be done... wow
The show will continue to get worse as the top talent sits on the sidelines. We hurt the racing by having so many of the sports top riders out with injury
Idiots like Rookie White risk riders on minis and other slower riders at the local track (And most on here think it is cool)
local tracks run the pros, mini's, vets, beginners at the same time... it what universe can someone say this is safe
We see someone die on live tv or a kid on s supermini die at monster cup and the whole circus might come to a stop
bike sales are down and everyone around wants more outside dollars into the sport but no one wants to make changes or act like professional
you can't progress without change
If you're a top level AM racer like Adam Cianciarulo, you have the power to tell your kids sponsors how it will go. AC went from 80s/superminis to an insanely fast supermini that was close to a 125, and then to a 125 because they didn't feel he was big enough/strong enough. More families need to think this way.
The problems I see with riders at the track who can't handle their bikes are typically not the fast amature guys or even the struggling privateers who hardly make a Supercross after going pro. It's usually Joe Blow off the street who has no shot of mskibg any contingency money, and could ride whatever he wants, but he saw all the guys at SX racing 450's.
The more landings and take offs closer together is what disrupted weimer.
Dont think so? Look at snocross.
Its more spectacular and no ones going long into a jump face.
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I do think that you need the pro racer's input on the track designs in advance of the season and on track conditions at race time. 2 or 3 pros have commented on the tracks in the last couple of weeks, post-race. What good does that do?
The AMA / FIM and Feld should create immediate provisions for racer input and feedback on the track designs and conditions. This can happen immediately. If racers feel there are sections that are dangerous or ill conceived they can make their input known in a formal fashion before racing begins. This committee can be a cross-section of racers in all classes to make sure that there is equitable input. At least at this point you would have racer buy-off on the tracks which takes care of one of the problems mentioned in this thread.
I have always thought the starts didn't give the riders near enough room to fit into the corner and track not wide enough in some areas.
I think the track builders need to be smart and build the first section on all tracks after the start as safe as they can.
That was one brutal track last night. Very challenging and some big jumps but the guys were doing it.
The head and spine injuries are the scariest ones so 6d did a great job developing a helmet and the other need to as well.
My local track is simply ridiculous. Evel fucking Knievel (God) wouldn't risk riding it. It's a public ride park setup for the pro's to use as their practice track. I think there's an unofficial comp to see which ride park can attract the most pro riders to practice on.
It Isn't the top pro's who are being killed. It's our kids in most cases. It's a parents responsibility to make their kids sport of choice as safe as possible for them to compete in locally. Not an Organisation's, the pro's or pro teams..
Obviously with the decrease in numbers in the sport. Some parents already understand this. Ie. K-Dub.
As for the bikes. Business is all supply and demand. You don't supply what's demanded. You Fail!. Hence why KTM is thriving and the Jap producers are going backwards.
Started riding at 19. He's 21 now and owns a new YZF450.
Need I say more?
I thought I had a half a clue before I hit 40 as well.
Like the products your generation makes. You won't last 5yrs
Exuberance is no substitute for experience!
Nothing against Partridge, another super talented rider, but you don't just go from outside the top 20 to just about the top ten in pace magically.
Anyone who plays Motofantasy can tell you that the riders they are selecting now compared to the first few rounds are completely different, and it is all due to riders being injured.
Who as been sidelined from at least one round from injury this year? Just from the top of my head and only the SX class
Brayton
Hahn
Peick
Roczen
Barcia
Weimer
Canard
Albertson
Tickle
(Anderson maybe after the weekend?)
Alessi
Hill
Wilson
Yes some were practice crashes, but that is 13 riders, most of which you would call MAIN EVENT guys week in week out. Good chance I have missed a couple
So after 12 rounds they are averaging at least one top supercross rider in the World being injured! and that is from a pool of about 50-60 riders.
Not great stats at all.
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I thought we come here to talk dirt bikes.
More power is not necessarily better racing the moto GP's racers only ride 500 cc not 750 or 1000cc bikes.
If we have these professional riders telling us its to dangerous then to me that is alarm bell's
(Not directed at you mxpaul802)
Line up the bikes mid way down the straight (dead engine). Gate drops, start running, get to the bike, start it, go.
How is it possible you have no Idea how to make the starts safer after JS7 has told you how?
He's an expert racer and an expert crasher. Is there anyone more qualified to get advice from?
Now , I think the Windham thread has a lot of ideas- good and bad but I agree that there can be some things done to improve safety. With that said , we all know this is a dangerous sport and bad injuries and even death have been a part of it for ever.
Stop being a presumptious dickhead. and have some manners.
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