The difference in Dungey's results this year

Edited Date/Time 3/16/2015 10:54am
We all know that Villopoto and Stewart aren't around this year, but from the following choices rank them in order of importance for his improved results.

1. New bike
2. Aldon Baker
3. Less team pressure with Roczen gone
4. Married life works for him (don't laugh, look at Canard too)
5. Better tracks
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We all know that Villopoto and Stewart aren't around this year, but from the following choices rank them in order of importance for his improved results...
We all know that Villopoto and Stewart aren't around this year, but from the following choices rank them in order of importance for his improved results.

1. New bike
2. Aldon Baker
3. Less team pressure with Roczen gone
4. Married life works for him (don't laugh, look at Canard too)
5. Better tracks
bike is alot better , and its the exact same Dungey .if he was on the suzuki over the last few years he would have been alot closer to RV if not beating him . he took a big step back when he first joined KTM, but this year the KTM is ever bit as good as all the other bikes indoors . people still dont credit Dungey on how good he is . he was on a bad SX bike the last few years IMO , thats the only difference
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We all know that Villopoto and Stewart aren't around this year, but from the following choices rank them in order of importance for his improved results...
We all know that Villopoto and Stewart aren't around this year, but from the following choices rank them in order of importance for his improved results.

1. New bike
2. Aldon Baker
3. Less team pressure with Roczen gone
4. Married life works for him (don't laugh, look at Canard too)
5. Better tracks
1. No RV
2. No JS7 (Although not a major contributing factor)
3. Injured Roczen

For starters Dungey is always 2nd to RV, so with RV gone he is where he should be. Not really rocket science.
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I would like to get rd starts average for2015 compared to 2014... Always up front after firsy lap at every main event,,, can't remember when he was outside top 5 after first lap.
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He definitely wasn't getting 2nd every race last year, his starts this year are better and even if you removed Rv and James he wasn't as consistent as he is this year!

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I told my lady last night when they showed Dungey on the starting line that he looked like he didnt have a care in the world. He looked so relaxed. The other riders are making it easy for him also with there screw ups.
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3/15/2015 2:23am Edited Date/Time 3/15/2015 2:23am
Roczen had no problem beating him until his crash. That is why dungey looks like he does
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Always someone who attacks members. So please listen Poesface naaier (Google that as I am sure you know nothing else but dodgey American English) , Im actually a Dungey fan but facts are facts when you run the numbers.



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3/15/2015 3:59am Edited Date/Time 3/15/2015 4:01am
We all know that Villopoto and Stewart aren't around this year, but from the following choices rank them in order of importance for his improved results...
We all know that Villopoto and Stewart aren't around this year, but from the following choices rank them in order of importance for his improved results.

1. New bike
2. Aldon Baker
3. Less team pressure with Roczen gone
4. Married life works for him (don't laugh, look at Canard too)
5. Better tracks
RD#5 on a KTM turned inside BT#20 who was on an RMZ450. I can now officially say. I've seen it all Huh .

I think the bike is the biggest Improvement IMO but the whole team needs to be doing their jobs well for it all to click like it is for KTM ATM.

He was flawless today Blink . He's definitely a "racers racer"
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Hmmm...maybe Dungey was right about the bike all along and Decoster gave him a lot of crap about it in the media saying "its the same bike KR rides"...etc...
maybe RD knew something afterall..Wink
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People need to stop with this same old Dungey thing. Yes RV is not there. I barely count Stewart since he has been mediocre is SX in the last few years. It is not like RD finished 2nd to RV every year and had a huge lead over 3rd place. He actually only finished 2nd in the championship to RV once which as last year. He now has a 40+ points lead and is only one race win away from his best of 6 in 2010 which was a weak field compared to this year. Not to mention the amount of fastest qualifiers he has this year (3 at least) which he never used to have. He has also won more heat races this year. If you listen to Decoster's interview with Matthew after the race, he says Ryan is a different person this year.

The only thing I will say that is the same with him is his inability to make quick passes on slower riders. Case in point Andrew Short at Daytona. Once he passed him his lap time dropped by 3-4 seconds and went up 20+ seconds at one point. I was shocked to hear JT say Seely would have ran away with the win if he didn't crash. Yes he caught up to Dungey and was trying to make the pass but only because Short was holding him up. Dungey was not losing that race to Seely, no way.
3/15/2015 5:42am
It's his team, people around him, his wife, and the Dunlops hooking up and you can't forget the man above
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Question for everyone.... When was the last time a wholly redesigned bike was this successful in racing straight away? Looking good for a title or two... everyone singing praises...

02 Honda was different to 01... But not really redesign was it?
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No Stewart, no Villopoto.
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Crush wrote:
Question for everyone.... When was the last time a wholly redesigned bike was this successful in racing straight away? Looking good for a title or two...
Question for everyone.... When was the last time a wholly redesigned bike was this successful in racing straight away? Looking good for a title or two... everyone singing praises...

02 Honda was different to 01... But not really redesign was it?
Outdoors in 11 I believe, RV was struggling with the frame and the 12 came out mid year and it allowed him to pull away from RD in the points, pretty major.
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Stewart can win on any day but cant get consistent week in and out.
RV retired from sx he is gone that would be like saying Mcgrath did good because David Bailey and Magoo wrrent there.
Dungey raced the field and is pulling away.
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Number one is confidence....the new bike and how it fits him and Aldon is why. Who knows if RV would be there, the fact is he's not so we need to move on.
Stewart hasn't really been in championship contention for many years so he more than likely wouldn't have been a factor this year either....he's not there so we need to move on.
Kenny got hurt with a few poor decisions, Oakland and ATL, but I believe the poorest decision he made was last year when he left KTM and closely followed with the decision to leave Aldon.
Dungey is a beast this year and it's because he has all the pieces he needs in place.
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Stewart can win on any day but cant get consistent week in and out. RV retired from sx he is gone that would be like saying...
Stewart can win on any day but cant get consistent week in and out.
RV retired from sx he is gone that would be like saying Mcgrath did good because David Bailey and Magoo wrrent there.
Dungey raced the field and is pulling away.
Don't bring that logic and clear thought to a RD discussion.
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The other guys can't run Dungey's pace without injuring themselves and knocking themselves out of the series. Not Dungey's fault. Wink
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I wonder why it is so difficult for some to accept that Dungey is capable of winning a race or five. Always looking for an excuse they are. Blink
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You are the one that sounds bitter. The fact is RV retired from SX and now Dungey took over the top spot. He has always been a great rider ever since the man got a hold of him (no homo)
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i agree the bike is better than it ever has been, and Ryan looks better on it, and I'm are Aldon has been able to tweak his program so that his strengths are maximized...but I think Dungey's mindset is they key. I'm no moto-shrink, but there's a calmness & confidence in RD that wasn't quite there before. Maybe Aldon has finally convinced him that he is the best out there & deserves to win, I don't know. Somebody once said that the key to being a champion is believing that you are the champion, and that everybody else is in second place.
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DonM wrote:
Number one is confidence....the new bike and how it fits him and Aldon is why. Who knows if RV would be there, the fact is he's...
Number one is confidence....the new bike and how it fits him and Aldon is why. Who knows if RV would be there, the fact is he's not so we need to move on.
Stewart hasn't really been in championship contention for many years so he more than likely wouldn't have been a factor this year either....he's not there so we need to move on.
Kenny got hurt with a few poor decisions, Oakland and ATL, but I believe the poorest decision he made was last year when he left KTM and closely followed with the decision to leave Aldon.
Dungey is a beast this year and it's because he has all the pieces he needs in place.
I agree with this and 71Fish.

Also, Dungey is actually making quick work on the starts lately. It's not often this year that he has a bad start, but he had a bad start in his Indy qualifier. He got BURIED on the start straight. I think he was 9th in the First corner. Less than half way through the first lap, he was 4th. His early race attack has improved 100X over prior years.

I keep seeing the argument that he still takes forever to get around guys like Short and Peick. Those two guys are FLYING this year. They have both shown some incredible speed early in races. These guys aren't mid packers anymore.

Roczen progressively started losing some of the confidence training that Aldon was teaching him. They talked last night about Jeremy Martin not having the experience and knowledge of how to handle himself when he's not in an ideal situation. It's more of a mental loss than an ability or endurance thing. That's where KR lost out by leaving AB.
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1) Baker (I'm giving him credit for changing RD's attitude on the track)
2) The bike. It clearly seems to suit him better. Short's not doing bad on it either. Not unlike the transformation RV went through when he got a new bike a few years back.
3) Everything else

It is disappointing RV is not around. I definitely think RD is better now than he was last year and he would have given RV a run for his money. JS7 has rarely been a factor for a championship, he crashes himself out.
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Something else to consider on the Dungey front is that Musquin is moving up next year I believe. I don't know if his current contract runs into next year or if he'll be a free agent, but I think him and Dungey have an awesome relationship right now but I'm curious to see how it changes next year when they're each others competition.
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3/15/2015 7:41am Edited Date/Time 3/15/2015 7:41am
IWreckALot wrote:
Something else to consider on the Dungey front is that Musquin is moving up next year I believe. I don't know if his current contract runs...
Something else to consider on the Dungey front is that Musquin is moving up next year I believe. I don't know if his current contract runs into next year or if he'll be a free agent, but I think him and Dungey have an awesome relationship right now but I'm curious to see how it changes next year when they're each others competition.
Both Dungey and Musquin's contracts are up...I believe
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Only reason he is winning is because RC is gone
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Roczen had no problem beating him until his crash. That is why dungey looks like he does
Roczen also ended up on the ground ALOT trying to keep pace.

No "wonder bike" comment? I'm truly not impressed.
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Sometimes the pieces just fall into place. Lots of hard work and investment from KTM. Dungey believing in them and I think the confidence to let Roczen go by KTM showed clearly they believed in him. We had our dealer meeting last year just about the time it was obvious that Ken was not coming back and I got no sense of panic from anyone there. They just kept telling us "wait until you see this new bike". The deal with Baker comes along just as Ken departs and the new bike arrives. Then there was the start of the season and even though Ken won he could not pull Ryan. Ryan was always there, and was getting closer every week...lurking, waiting for Ken to make a mistake and bam. He got quicker every week and then you see a new confidence build. The perfect storm as they say.
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newmann wrote:
The other guys can't run Dungey's pace without injuring themselves and knocking themselves out of the series. Not Dungey's fault. Wink
You beat me to it Newmann. It is great to ride the razors edge and be the fastest guy for half the series but, sitting at home watching races on TV tends to hurt ones championship standings.
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Am I going to be the first one that points out he had 1 win last year, thats it.

Bubba had 5 and RV had 7. Those 2 are gone, and that is why RD seems like he is so much better.

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