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TerryB 3/14/2015 1:51am
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these 'discussions' have nothing to do with what country you are from, they are about what series you follow, or feel more a part of.. you...
these 'discussions' have nothing to do with what country you are from, they are about what series you follow, or feel more a part of.. you guys obviously feel an ownership of the AMA's and it's riders and the 'Euros' (as well as some others) feel exactly the same way about the GPs and it's riders..

And what Jamma said about the language
No, it has everything to do with what country you're from, when we're dealing with Brits! They're still butthurt over getting their asses kicked with muskets.

Oh, and they're all pasty snaggletoothed Fops...







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And all Europe thinks that Brits are US best buddys in this side of the bondLaughing Laughing Laughing
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Titan1 wrote:
But you guys don't have a Brit that is even in the ball park of Cairoli or Villopoto...it just seems odd that you get to claim...
But you guys don't have a Brit that is even in the ball park of Cairoli or Villopoto...it just seems odd that you get to claim Cairoli when he's as much American as he British, right?
dirtworldmx wrote:
It's not that the British claim Cairoli, or even want to see him win. But he's the best chance there is that Villopoto and the U.S...
It's not that the British claim Cairoli, or even want to see him win. But he's the best chance there is that Villopoto and the U.S. will LOSE, and that's all they really want. Anyone but Villopoto.
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and that opinion is based on what exactly?! most people I speak to that watch gps are really glad to have villipoto racing the series, and...
and that opinion is based on what exactly?! most people I speak to that watch gps are really glad to have villipoto racing the series, and a lot of them are rooting for him.... this isn't murrrrrrrca- its not as common to see the same xenophobic attitude from the fans over here. Any rider that adds to the entertainment/ racing is a good thing- any true motocross fan would see that, rather than concentrating what country he was born in..
It wasn't a weak field at the nations at Lommel by any stretch, but there's always quite a few top riders that aren't at the MXdN. The field is much different than in 2012 too. You have guys like Van Horebeek and Coldenhoff moving in MX1 who are very good sand riders, Bengtsson who has really come out of nowhere and is super fast in the sand. The smart money would have to be on Cairoli to win, but after that is anyone's guess

Edit: sorry quoted wrong post. Meant to quote post above that one
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Hey.....you and Dan both have to realize something here. Yes....both AC and JH are superior riders to Tonus outdoors.......the thing is Tonus did ( and has...
Hey.....you and Dan both have to realize something here. Yes....both AC and JH are superior riders to Tonus outdoors.......the thing is Tonus did ( and has practiced ) a lot of SX over the last couple years. I read in an interview or something like that , that he wanted to come to America and race the SX series. AC and JH DO NOT practice SX.....at all. And even the smallest glimpse we had of Herlings on an SX was a joke at best. Neither one of them have any SX skills........so I would love to see something that proves me wrong on this.

I know it sounds stupid......but I do think either one of them would make it to the main gate. Maybe JH in the lites....but he wouldn't be a factor. SX IS NOT.....MX!
Tonus has raced Genova and Bercy, Cairoli has done the same races already.
and Tonus has a tiny SX track at home where he rides some times but that is not even comparable to SX in the states...

AC not making the main, maybe that could happen but if he has some time to practice on such tracks, do you really see Nick Schmidt beatin him?

Yes Herlings video was a joke. Do you know which suspension setup he had there. Have you ever tried hitting a SX track or a whoop section with outdoor settings?

Musquin had not trained Supercross before he came to the US either. He was 21 or 22 when he moved over. Herlings is 20.
Roczen won a main even in his first season with 16 years old - he has a little grass track at home...

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Juss wrote:
I seem to remember RC smoking Everts at the MXON, but the Euros don't want too talk about that!
kawirider819 wrote:
Ill tell yah, just when I want to stand up for the USA someone like you has to ruin it for me. If you are dumb...
Ill tell yah, just when I want to stand up for the USA someone like you has to ruin it for me. If you are dumb enough to think AC or Herlings couldnt make a night show you obviously know nothing about the sport. Some of the Euro/US fanatics on this site have reinforced the notion that there really are village idiots no matter where you go.
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Hey.....you and Dan both have to realize something here. Yes....both AC and JH are superior riders to Tonus outdoors.......the thing is Tonus did ( and has...
Hey.....you and Dan both have to realize something here. Yes....both AC and JH are superior riders to Tonus outdoors.......the thing is Tonus did ( and has practiced ) a lot of SX over the last couple years. I read in an interview or something like that , that he wanted to come to America and race the SX series. AC and JH DO NOT practice SX.....at all. And even the smallest glimpse we had of Herlings on an SX was a joke at best. Neither one of them have any SX skills........so I would love to see something that proves me wrong on this.

I know it sounds stupid......but I do think either one of them would make it to the main gate. Maybe JH in the lites....but he wouldn't be a factor. SX IS NOT.....MX!
We've evolved from Lommel to SX main events. Wow.
EnvyMedia 3/14/2015 4:02am
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Man, I really like American riders and my favorite riders are from the USA.
But the ignorant and naive comments of some Americans makes me want the Euro's to win.
Jef Pizza 3/14/2015 7:54am
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Remember Herlings crashed with DeReuver on the first corner in that moto and fought his way through from second to last. I think RV is capable...
Remember Herlings crashed with DeReuver on the first corner in that moto and fought his way through from second to last.

I think RV is capable of top three finish at Lommel though.

"... from second to last ... " ???? And you are growing younger. Dry
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jamma10 wrote:
Remember Herlings crashed with DeReuver on the first corner in that moto and fought his way through from second to last. I think RV is capable...
Remember Herlings crashed with DeReuver on the first corner in that moto and fought his way through from second to last.

I think RV is capable of top three finish at Lommel though.
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"... from second to last ... " ???? And you are growing younger. Dry
come on Jamma... get with it lad... its hard enough here as it isTongue
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jamma10 3/14/2015 8:13am
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Remember Herlings crashed with DeReuver on the first corner in that moto and fought his way through from second to last. I think RV is capable...
Remember Herlings crashed with DeReuver on the first corner in that moto and fought his way through from second to last.

I think RV is capable of top three finish at Lommel though.
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"... from second to last ... " ???? And you are growing younger. Dry
Smile Maybe it's just an English phrase. How would you have worded it?
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jamma10 wrote:
Remember Herlings crashed with DeReuver on the first corner in that moto and fought his way through from second to last. I think RV is capable...
Remember Herlings crashed with DeReuver on the first corner in that moto and fought his way through from second to last.

I think RV is capable of top three finish at Lommel though.
Jef Pizza wrote:

"... from second to last ... " ???? And you are growing younger. Dry
jamma10 wrote:
Smile Maybe it's just an English phrase. How would you have worded it?
second to last doesnt exist in the US .. same as 'twice' ... they have a word for that though its 'two time' ...

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Jef Pizza 3/14/2015 8:26am
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jamma10 wrote:
Remember Herlings crashed with DeReuver on the first corner in that moto and fought his way through from second to last. I think RV is capable...
Remember Herlings crashed with DeReuver on the first corner in that moto and fought his way through from second to last.

I think RV is capable of top three finish at Lommel though.
Jef Pizza wrote:

"... from second to last ... " ???? And you are growing younger. Dry
jamma10 wrote:
Smile Maybe it's just an English phrase. How would you have worded it?
Alessiated?
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Jef Pizza wrote:

"... from second to last ... " ???? And you are growing younger. Dry
jamma10 wrote:
Smile Maybe it's just an English phrase. How would you have worded it?
Jef Pizza wrote:
Alessiated?
Does that mean being related to Tony Alessi?
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Man, I really like American riders and my favorite riders are from the USA. But the ignorant and naive comments of some Americans makes me want...
Man, I really like American riders and my favorite riders are from the USA.
But the ignorant and naive comments of some Americans makes me want the Euro's to win.
I think sometimes our attempts at good-old fashioned ribbing are taken too seriously when translated across cultures and keyboards.Wink
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Titan1 wrote:
But you guys don't have a Brit that is even in the ball park of Cairoli or Villopoto...it just seems odd that you get to claim...
But you guys don't have a Brit that is even in the ball park of Cairoli or Villopoto...it just seems odd that you get to claim Cairoli when he's as much American as he British, right?
dirtworldmx wrote:
It's not that the British claim Cairoli, or even want to see him win. But he's the best chance there is that Villopoto and the U.S...
It's not that the British claim Cairoli, or even want to see him win. But he's the best chance there is that Villopoto and the U.S. will LOSE, and that's all they really want. Anyone but Villopoto.
Sorry but I won't be told who I can or can't cheer for,I've been an AC fan since he first hit the 250 GP's,with his style,tenacity and racecraft,not to mention his attitude etc

There are some Brits that race who I wouldn't give the time of day for,without wishing anything bad of them,I love to watch Paulin and Herlings too

To grow up watching the GP's from the days of Noyce then Thorpe etc it's natural to have riders of that series to favor,there'll probably always be a soft spot for Roczen,Musquin etc that race in the US from virtually all of us "Euros "as they often emerge through EMX as 15 year olds through to MX2 before racing in the US

It's great that RV's over this side of the pond,I suspect he's gained a lot of new fans from the US too,I don't thing I'm too out of line in saying he wasn't to everyone's liking in the US but he'll get the support of pretty much everyone I'm sure


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Villopoto, Cairoli, Desalle, Paulin, Nagl, Ferris, Bobryshev, Searle... Tomac, Dungey, Reed, Stewart, Baggett... they're all the same to me. I have an equal appreciation for all riders, what country they come from is pretty much irrelevent until I feel I have to defend one of them from some form of attack

When someone ridcules one of them I'll speak up for them, just as I did when an American person started talking shit about Villopoto on instagram recently.

I've got a Villopoto tshirt and have a photo of him set as my desktop background on both my computers, yet on Vital people assume I have some sort of vendetta against him because of my Nationality.
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TerryB 3/14/2015 9:59am
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PressPassP wrote:
Sorry but I won't be told who I can or can't cheer for,I've been an AC fan since he first hit the 250 GP's,with his style,tenacity...
Sorry but I won't be told who I can or can't cheer for,I've been an AC fan since he first hit the 250 GP's,with his style,tenacity and racecraft,not to mention his attitude etc

There are some Brits that race who I wouldn't give the time of day for,without wishing anything bad of them,I love to watch Paulin and Herlings too

To grow up watching the GP's from the days of Noyce then Thorpe etc it's natural to have riders of that series to favor,there'll probably always be a soft spot for Roczen,Musquin etc that race in the US from virtually all of us "Euros "as they often emerge through EMX as 15 year olds through to MX2 before racing in the US

It's great that RV's over this side of the pond,I suspect he's gained a lot of new fans from the US too,I don't thing I'm too out of line in saying he wasn't to everyone's liking in the US but he'll get the support of pretty much everyone I'm sure


I hear that. DeCoster was my favorite rider when I was growing up, (then Hannah,i wish I could have seen them battle in person). I eagerly awaited my MXA magazines every month so I could follow the GP's. Many great riders and much respect for the series.

My friends chide me for my "fanboism" of Pourcel and Musquin over our homegrown talent.

I don't have a favorite between RV and AC. I only hope they both stay healthy and race each other closely to the final round with the best man (that day) taking the title.

How could a real fan ask for anything more, (more US riders contesting the GP's, and more USGP's)?
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There is some truth to that.
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jamma10 wrote:
Villopoto, Cairoli, Desalle, Paulin, Nagl, Ferris, Bobryshev, Searle... Tomac, Dungey, Reed, Stewart, Baggett... they're all the same to me. I have an equal appreciation for all...
Villopoto, Cairoli, Desalle, Paulin, Nagl, Ferris, Bobryshev, Searle... Tomac, Dungey, Reed, Stewart, Baggett... they're all the same to me. I have an equal appreciation for all riders, what country they come from is pretty much irrelevent until I feel I have to defend one of them from some form of attack

When someone ridcules one of them I'll speak up for them, just as I did when an American person started talking shit about Villopoto on instagram recently.

I've got a Villopoto tshirt and have a photo of him set as my desktop background on both my computers, yet on Vital people assume I have some sort of vendetta against him because of my Nationality.
You are obviously a level headed guy,and I enjoy most of your posts. But, some of your other countrymen, not so muchWink

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You are obviously a level headed guy,and I enjoy most of your posts. But, some of your other countrymen, not so muchWink



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Why would we be on this site if we were anti-American. I think I can speak on behalf of my fellow countrymen and say we're anti-assholes. I'm definitely anti-you. Not because of your nationality, but because you're a little troll. There is not one single European person signed up to Vital that doesn't respect RV, what he's accomplished and what he's doing this year. I think I can also speak on behalf of all of us euros in saying we fucking love him being here. It's amazing. I can't wait to see the guy ride again. I couldn't be more excited! Just don't get ya little panties in a bunch when we say something like, AC will probably smoke him at Lommel. We talk from experience.
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jeffro503 3/14/2015 10:20am
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Look.......a lot of the GP fans on here have said numerous times " RV will struggle a bit over here....because the tracks are so much different ".

That is true to a point.....most definitely. So now , since this conversation went over to talking about some GP riders trying to do a SX race.......that exact same response you guys said about RV.....works here as well.

It's not that AC and JH are slow.....but SX is a completely different type of riding. And if you don't train SX , you are not going to do well. Both AC and JH are outdoor monsters....fast as hell. But in SX.....I think if they did make a main gate , they would be back with the Schmit's and Wey's.
WoodsRacer 3/14/2015 10:28am
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Man, I really like American riders and my favorite riders are from the USA. But the ignorant and naive comments of some Americans makes me want...
Man, I really like American riders and my favorite riders are from the USA.
But the ignorant and naive comments of some Americans makes me want the Euro's to win.
I love bench racing just about as much as anyone and with RV doing the MXGPs it adds a whole new level of pre-event bench racing to take place. With Lommel and maybe Glen Helen being the golden gems to bench racing folk this year. Seriously something of this magnitude in this sport hasn't happened in my lifetime and I get almost as excited thinking about the possible outcomes as I do the actual race.

With that said its easy to see when you mix in that level of excitement with the pride we all have for the racers we root for along with the country they represent in a series such as this you can see why some people become bias and even blind to facts. Please don't lose faith in American riders and fans just because a couple hot heads on vital are always trying to stir the pot or just being blatantly ignorant of facts and logic. I myself am pulling for RV in the GP series but know it is going to be one heck of a fight and no matter the outcome its something that will be talked about and measured against for years to come.

Its obvious the top GP guys are right in line with the top American racers which is getting me even more excited for the rest of the MXGP series. Looking at tracks, riding style, history, and so much more before the race is a load of fun. Now lets just hope everyone stays healthy and we let the results do the talking at the end! Win or lose I still get to watch a couple of the greatest racers ever line up against each other week in and week out. Really the fans like us are the winners here!
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jeffro503 wrote:
Look.......a lot of the GP fans on here have said numerous times " RV will struggle a bit over here....because the tracks are so much different...
Look.......a lot of the GP fans on here have said numerous times " RV will struggle a bit over here....because the tracks are so much different ".

That is true to a point.....most definitely. So now , since this conversation went over to talking about some GP riders trying to do a SX race.......that exact same response you guys said about RV.....works here as well.

It's not that AC and JH are slow.....but SX is a completely different type of riding. And if you don't train SX , you are not going to do well. Both AC and JH are outdoor monsters....fast as hell. But in SX.....I think if they did make a main gate , they would be back with the Schmit's and Wey's.
Couldn't agree more

SX and mx should not be confused

SX is gnarly in a very different way

I skipped straight to the last page, now based on your post jeffro I'm going to have to go back and read how the hell RV at Lommel has turned to Euros and SX lol wtf
Jamie_Munro 3/14/2015 10:41am
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And not that Schmidt and Wey are placing bad, hell they are top twenty in the world.

In my book that's a reasonable result Whistling Whistling
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I totally agree that it's ok to admit that an American is the fmotp. I got a number 4 tattooed on my back. RC is and has been my hero since 1998, and if RV beats Toni and co for the Championship then I will be the first to say fair play. All I wanna see is good racing. And no I don't know what RV is capable of at Lommel, that's why I said TC will PROBABLY smoke RV at Lommel. Because TC smokes everyone around Lommel.

Shit dude, today I took my girlfriend out for breakfast, I walked down town in my brand new DC RV trainers and my Volcom RV t-shirt. Just because I think the guy may lose a race from time to time doesn't mean I hate on him. You just jump to that conclusion every time you see one of us post something that isn't sucking him off.
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All I see here is a bunch of disrespect and childish remarks. Facts are AC222 is the current world champion and a great one at that. RV is the fastest rider in the USA. Every one has seen AC race at Lommel and know that he is a master of sand. NO ONE has seen RV race at Lommel. You can not use the MXoN as a guage for how RV will do at Lommel, it is a complete different set of circumstances. RV will have 6 months of GP racing under his belt compaired to one week for the Americans at the MXoN. After the August GP at Lommel we will know the answer to all this banter. Will AC dominate? Will RV suprise some people with a podium finish? All this AC vrs RV stuff is so disrespectful to all the other estabilished GP riders.I for one hope all riders are healthy for the August GP at Lommel so we can enjoy some great racing. As an American I hope RV destroys the field at Lommel but I am realistic and think a podium finish would be be a win for RV. Top five I would bet money on.
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jeffro503 3/14/2015 11:09am
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And not that Schmidt and Wey are placing bad, hell they are top twenty in the world.

In my book that's a reasonable result Whistling Whistling
Hey Jamie. Yeah I don't want people to think I am some how putting down the skills of AC or JH. Two of the very best riders on the planet. But SX and MX are two completely different disciplines. I do think after a little bit of practice and a few races.......I'm pretty sure their results would improve a lot......but I don't think either AC or JH really care how well they can do on an SX track.
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Hey Jamie. Yeah I don't want people to think I am some how putting down the skills of AC or JH. Two of the very best...
Hey Jamie. Yeah I don't want people to think I am some how putting down the skills of AC or JH. Two of the very best riders on the planet. But SX and MX are two completely different disciplines. I do think after a little bit of practice and a few races.......I'm pretty sure their results would improve a lot......but I don't think either AC or JH really care how well they can do on an SX track.
I bet there is a small part of them that does care. We all grew up watching you boys across the pond. Shit man, TC is number 222 for a reason.
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RV will adapt and prepare until he has a legit chance of wining. Im betting on him...
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this is off topic, but we need a break from the transatlantic bickering and watch American amateur race in the sand. I bet the top three kids in this vid would do OK at lommel. This is my first attempt at a video embed, hope it works:




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