Thoughts on ATV's racing Daytona?

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Just like a fat chick, shit loads of fun til your friends see you!
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Quads racing the same track? Sure.

And, yes, I...also...would hope they go after us.

More people racing is always a good thing, to me.

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8686 wrote:
Anyone know if the amateur track was exactly the same as the Pro track? Is the ATV track the same as well?
stremme12 wrote:
Different track than the Pro track.
What? No I hadn't heard that.
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This threads full of shit talkers that couldnt beat a good local level atv rider, much less a pro. Bunch of losers on anything offroad.
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Zracer wrote:
This threads full of shit talkers that couldnt beat a good local level atv rider, much less a pro. Bunch of losers on anything offroad.
Was today leg day, bro?
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Zracer wrote:
This threads full of shit talkers that couldnt beat a good local level atv rider, much less a pro. Bunch of losers on anything offroad.
woah bro, slow it down. your thumb throttle clearly needs to be adjusted
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3/10/2015 2:05pm Edited Date/Time 3/10/2015 2:06pm
ATVs had a great time, they helped fill the infield, the track was perfect -- and they never touched it before the bikes were gone. What's the problem with them being there after the dirt bikes?

I was head-flagger all morning by the way and I hate to tell you guys this, but the ATVs have really good following when it comes to pretty girls and enthusiastic fans. I was impressed on both counts.

Let early to fly home and get back to my real job(s) but the whole event, from SX to minis to WMX to amateurs and then ATVs, was a great groups of folks, and the speedway enjoyed seeing the very big crowds back in the infield. If you were there yourself, you know what I mean.

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Oh, and they have helped save a few motorcycle dealerships and keep them above water in the past half-dozen years. That's worthy of some respect alone.

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Oh, and they have helped save a few motorcycle dealerships and keep them above water in the past half-dozen years. That's worthy of some respect alone...
Oh, and they have helped save a few motorcycle dealerships and keep them above water in the past half-dozen years. That's worthy of some respect alone.

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That is always my point, when people bag on quads. So many are short sighted and can't see past their front fender. If not for quads and cruiser guys, most shops would be in huge trouble.
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Zracer wrote:
This threads full of shit talkers that couldnt beat a good local level atv rider, much less a pro. Bunch of losers on anything offroad.
Aren't you that guy that was talking about how great your lap times were on MX vs ATV, but left out the fact that you were doing it on a.... QUAD!!! Don't worry, I understand you're probably afraid of coming out of the closet. Laughing
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Regardless of preference a great positive event for the off-road community !!
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3/10/2015 2:20pm Edited Date/Time 3/10/2015 2:21pm
Zracer wrote:
This threads full of shit talkers that couldnt beat a good local level atv rider, much less a pro. Bunch of losers on anything offroad.
peelout wrote:
woah bro, slow it down. your thumb throttle clearly needs to be adjusted


They don't need to be adjusted that often, although the limiter screw needs to be taken out so buddies don't mess with you.
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TanHner36 wrote:
lol that video is a bunch of overweight local goons. My buddy who works for Racer X does filming on the side and made this of...
lol that video is a bunch of overweight local goons. My buddy who works for Racer X does filming on the side and made this of an actual Pro National at Red Bud.
mx836 wrote:
Where is the 25,000 spectators?
Tending to their moonshine stills.....
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Zracer wrote:
This threads full of shit talkers that couldnt beat a good local level atv rider, much less a pro. Bunch of losers on anything offroad.
mx836 wrote:
Aren't you that guy that was talking about how great your lap times were on MX vs ATV, but left out the fact that you were...
Aren't you that guy that was talking about how great your lap times were on MX vs ATV, but left out the fact that you were doing it on a.... QUAD!!! Don't worry, I understand you're probably afraid of coming out of the closet. Laughing
Ive owned and raced both bikes and atvs longer than you have been alive. I left the mx vs atv thread when I realized everybody else posting was so slow I didnt really have anyone with any skill to discuss the game.
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peelout wrote:
woah bro, slow it down. your thumb throttle clearly needs to be adjusted
Oh shit that made me laugh Laughing

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Zracer wrote:
Ive owned and raced both bikes and atvs longer than you have been alive. I left the mx vs atv thread when I realized everybody else...
Ive owned and raced both bikes and atvs longer than you have been alive. I left the mx vs atv thread when I realized everybody else posting was so slow I didnt really have anyone with any skill to discuss the game.
You've been riding and racing for longer than I've been alive, but talk crap about how good you are at a video game on the internet? Laughing And I know for a fact that last statement isn't true.
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3/10/2015 4:15pm Edited Date/Time 3/10/2015 4:18pm
Pretty interesting that they're doing this. Drawing in more fans and sharing the expense of building the track. If this can be done, how about the following?

Introduce an experimental MX race at Daytona where practically anything goes (very few rules). This would be an exhibition race operating outside of the current AMA. Let the two strokes, four strokes, electrics, turbo motors, rotarys, etc. all compete against each other. Don't limit suspension, engine technology or fuel and see what shows up. Even less rules than the MEC and it'd be done at a major bike centric event as Daytona on a professionally built and safe track. If the expense of the track set-up is being shared among others, as it evidently is now, maybe it would reduce the expense of putting on an event like this cause it would have to be low budget. The track would need to be tamed substantially from the SX design used as I'd envision some homebuilt machinery might show and I can't imagine there'd be any top riders competing (no purse, contract restrictions). Perhaps the RCU track design would work. I think it'd be neat to see and might provide a means for some of the smaller manufacturer's, who currently can't contest the AMA Pro events, get some exposure.

The idea for this stems from the "Battle of the Twins" road race that used to be held during Bike Week. One could see some really neat twin cylinder bikes show up; BMW's, Ducati's, Guzzi's, Harley's, John Britten's V-1000 bike. It was done outside of the AMA's road racing series and Jim France was involved in making it happen. I don't believe any of the then current manufacturer's competing would have endorsed it so it was done outside of the AMA with very limited technical rules other than it had to be a twin. The class was used by Ducati to help develop their 851 four valve engine which later became a winner in the Superbike class. I think it ran mid-week and had an interesting mix of machinery, something that is definitely missing in Pro MX these days.
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TanHner36 wrote:
lol that video is a bunch of overweight local goons. My buddy who works for Racer X does filming on the side and made this of...
lol that video is a bunch of overweight local goons. My buddy who works for Racer X does filming on the side and made this of an actual Pro National at Red Bud.
mx836 wrote:
Where is the 25,000 spectators?
Lucifa. wrote:
Tending to their moonshine stills.....
Have you ever had honest "real" Moonshine?

The stuff is epic.

Had a taste, Sunday, made by some real southern shiners.

Wow.
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3/10/2015 6:54pm Edited Date/Time 3/10/2015 6:57pm
stremme12 wrote:
I must have mistook "Top level" for the guys who finish right behind those guys then. It was his wording not mine.



What's your point? Ok top level C rider. Let's just keep goin down the line. MY POINT is that Pro ATV guys are no where near...
What's your point? Ok top level C rider. Let's just keep goin down the line. MY POINT is that Pro ATV guys are no where near as fast as Pro MX guys. End of story.
I'm not trying to make a point just better understand your point your trying to make.

C class dirt bikes > Pro quad riders.

Got it

Thanks
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I started out racing quads back in the day, but after getting on a bike I was hooked. I occasionally hop on a quad and run a moto just for fun and have no problem with them running Daytona. They will definitely need to run after the bikes though.
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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/03/10/83284/s1200_image.jpg[/img] And at malvern pro day two years ago josh upperman was turning fastest laps of the day. Faster than the A Bike riders by 3...



And at malvern pro day two years ago josh upperman was turning fastest laps of the day. Faster than the A Bike riders by 3 seconds a lap.
To be fair, Malvern is a freakin speed way. Would be so much more fun if the quads didn't flatten and smooth everything out at that track.
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To be fair, Malvern is a freakin speed way. Would be so much more fun if the quads didn't flatten and smooth everything out at that...
To be fair, Malvern is a freakin speed way. Would be so much more fun if the quads didn't flatten and smooth everything out at that track.
I checked out some pics of the track after I read his post and thought it looked like a good quad track. Much easier to flat track a quad around flat, dry, slick corners than tiptoe around them on a bike.
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mx836 wrote:
I checked out some pics of the track after I read his post and thought it looked like a good quad track. Much easier to flat...
I checked out some pics of the track after I read his post and thought it looked like a good quad track. Much easier to flat track a quad around flat, dry, slick corners than tiptoe around them on a bike.
This is why they are good at clearing the driveway when its icy... Quads are just dangerous and expensive everywhere else.

Not that I really mind if people want to ride or race quads, just don't sit on the backside of hills and jumps to have a chit chat and a beer... Had a bad experience with that which ended up with a hospital visit. I know we call them couches but that doesn't mean use them like one. I don't get the rave about racing them. In what way are they more fun than 2 wheelers?
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mx836 wrote:
I checked out some pics of the track after I read his post and thought it looked like a good quad track. Much easier to flat...
I checked out some pics of the track after I read his post and thought it looked like a good quad track. Much easier to flat track a quad around flat, dry, slick corners than tiptoe around them on a bike.
Jkawi wrote:
This is why they are good at clearing the driveway when its icy... Quads are just dangerous and expensive everywhere else. Not that I really mind...
This is why they are good at clearing the driveway when its icy... Quads are just dangerous and expensive everywhere else.

Not that I really mind if people want to ride or race quads, just don't sit on the backside of hills and jumps to have a chit chat and a beer... Had a bad experience with that which ended up with a hospital visit. I know we call them couches but that doesn't mean use them like one. I don't get the rave about racing them. In what way are they more fun than 2 wheelers?
They are different than two wheelers. More fun in some areas, less in others. I used to race both on the same day and same track. (full size) Motorcycles jump and handle rough stuff better, especially if its uneven (remember quads have wheels sized like 80s or smaller). Quads handle flat corners and hardpack much, much better. Quads are MUCH harder to pass on, and beat up the rider more than on a motorcycle. Neither is that fun on a track that's ideal for the other. I will absolutely agree that quads don't belong on singletrack.

It's funny that with the complaints about quads destroying ruts, there isn't acknowledgement of quads building up berms. In my experience, both occur. In particular, the local arenacross would get massive berms after the quads were out.



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