2015 Factory edition KTM 450

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B-EVANS 3/4/2015 11:29am
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I have annoyed my dealer everyday for 2 months. I'm starting to believe he really doesn't know when they will arrive. Anybody heard a release date?
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TANK222TFT 3/4/2015 11:51am
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MD will see them this week as long as the weather does not hold the trucks up.
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Tim507 3/4/2015 11:53am
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My FE 250 has been released,I have the serial number, not sure what day - my dealer was fairly confident that it would be within a weekWoohoo
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Tim507 wrote:
My FE 250 has been released,I have the serial number, not sure what day - my dealer was fairly confident that it would be within a...
My FE 250 has been released,I have the serial number, not sure what day - my dealer was fairly confident that it would be within a weekWoohoo
Until then...

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joeellis 3/4/2015 12:21pm
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Spoke to a dealer a few minutes ago. He said sometime this month for the 250 and not until May for the 450.
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Tim507 3/4/2015 12:27pm
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From what I understand - the west coast longshoreman strike has played havoc with shipments.........I'm waiting for a shipment on a project and I've been told it is floating in the Puget Sound waiting for a dock in Seattle or TacomaUnsure Whistling
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BroFoSho 3/4/2015 12:30pm
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Sucks to drop $10k on a bike and not even know when you'll get it
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Digger29 3/4/2015 12:39pm
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My dealer was invoiced for 2 of his 4 FE 450s and they shipped on Saturday and I'm told they should be here today.
TriRacer27 3/4/2015 12:42pm
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Tim507 wrote:
From what I understand - the west coast longshoreman strike has played havoc with shipments.........I'm waiting for a shipment on a project and I've been told...
From what I understand - the west coast longshoreman strike has played havoc with shipments.........I'm waiting for a shipment on a project and I've been told it is floating in the Puget Sound waiting for a dock in Seattle or TacomaUnsure Whistling
Aren't they coming from the east coast?
TriRacer27 3/4/2015 12:43pm
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Digger29 wrote:
My dealer was invoiced for 2 of his 4 FE 450s and they shipped on Saturday and I'm told they should be here today.
Man I am jealous.

Let us know how you like it.
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Digger29 3/4/2015 12:47pm
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Tim507 wrote:
From what I understand - the west coast longshoreman strike has played havoc with shipments.........I'm waiting for a shipment on a project and I've been told...
From what I understand - the west coast longshoreman strike has played havoc with shipments.........I'm waiting for a shipment on a project and I've been told it is floating in the Puget Sound waiting for a dock in Seattle or TacomaUnsure Whistling
TriRacer27 wrote:
Aren't they coming from the east coast?
Yes they're coming from VA. I'll definitely do a quick write up on it. I going to grease it and switch the bars and pegs and head south with it.
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KTMShane699 3/4/2015 12:51pm
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joeellis wrote:
Spoke to a dealer a few minutes ago. He said sometime this month for the 250 and not until May for the 450.
That is completely incorrect information. The production rule for homologation says that the manufacturer has to have 200 bikes available by March (invoiced to dealers/in transit to dealers) and another 200 by June. So if the 450's aren't coming until May, KTM is not in compliance and wouldn't be able to race the bike.

Bikes have shipped and been invoiced. The allocation for dealers is split into two shipments. Mine is in the second shipment. KTM says May, but realistically should be before then.

Shane
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Tim507 wrote:
From what I understand - the west coast longshoreman strike has played havoc with shipments.........I'm waiting for a shipment on a project and I've been told...
From what I understand - the west coast longshoreman strike has played havoc with shipments.........I'm waiting for a shipment on a project and I've been told it is floating in the Puget Sound waiting for a dock in Seattle or TacomaUnsure Whistling
TriRacer27 wrote:
Aren't they coming from the east coast?
Not sure - perhaps someone more in the know can jumpin.....Doesn't KTM warehouse in CA now?
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joeellis wrote:
Spoke to a dealer a few minutes ago. He said sometime this month for the 250 and not until May for the 450.
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That is completely incorrect information. The production rule for homologation says that the manufacturer has to have 200 bikes available by March (invoiced to dealers/in transit...
That is completely incorrect information. The production rule for homologation says that the manufacturer has to have 200 bikes available by March (invoiced to dealers/in transit to dealers) and another 200 by June. So if the 450's aren't coming until May, KTM is not in compliance and wouldn't be able to race the bike.

Bikes have shipped and been invoiced. The allocation for dealers is split into two shipments. Mine is in the second shipment. KTM says May, but realistically should be before then.

Shane
Just telling you what I was told. Maybe his 450 is in the second shipment too.
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TANK222TFT 3/4/2015 1:31pm
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I'll post up pictures of the 450 and 250 this week. Jt Motorsports is getting 2 450's and 1 250.
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kiwifan 3/4/2015 3:06pm
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KTM have got this sussed, they bring out what is basically a 2016 model 6 months early, charge a fortune for it and people buy them all, plus it gives their racing teams an advantage, pretty clever really.
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TMV 3/5/2015 12:48pm
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Funny Pingree says in the racerx test he feels the hand of "Roger" on every little ingenious details. Does he realize all the spyshots we've seen a few months ago were taken in Belgium and Holland. The bike was done before Dungey threw a leg over it. They even said they didn't want to try the new bike before Roczen's departure which means Roczen didn't participate to anything associate with the new bike and neither did Dungey...

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mnomis484 3/5/2015 1:00pm
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kiwifan wrote:
KTM have got this sussed, they bring out what is basically a 2016 model 6 months early, charge a fortune for it and people buy them...
KTM have got this sussed, they bring out what is basically a 2016 model 6 months early, charge a fortune for it and people buy them all, plus it gives their racing teams an advantage, pretty clever really.
Everyone seems to think that the 15 FE and the stock '16 are the same bike except graphics, but i heard that the stock '16 Ktms are not as similar to the FE as you might think Wink
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kiwifan 3/5/2015 1:02pm
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kiwifan wrote:
KTM have got this sussed, they bring out what is basically a 2016 model 6 months early, charge a fortune for it and people buy them...
KTM have got this sussed, they bring out what is basically a 2016 model 6 months early, charge a fortune for it and people buy them all, plus it gives their racing teams an advantage, pretty clever really.
mnomis484 wrote:
Everyone seems to think that the 15 FE and the stock '16 are the same bike except graphics, but i heard that the stock '16 Ktms...
Everyone seems to think that the 15 FE and the stock '16 are the same bike except graphics, but i heard that the stock '16 Ktms are not as similar to the FE as you might think Wink
so tell us more what you heard?
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kiwifan wrote:
KTM have got this sussed, they bring out what is basically a 2016 model 6 months early, charge a fortune for it and people buy them...
KTM have got this sussed, they bring out what is basically a 2016 model 6 months early, charge a fortune for it and people buy them all, plus it gives their racing teams an advantage, pretty clever really.
& they get their new model beta tested whilst not losing to much money, I seriously doubt they make money on the FE. Not to mention the publicity.

I am just hoping the xcf250 2016 continues the theme & has the new frame etc Smile

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motomike137 3/6/2015 6:35am
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TMV wrote:
Funny Pingree says in the racerx test he feels the hand of "Roger" on every little ingenious details. Does he realize all the spyshots we've seen...
Funny Pingree says in the racerx test he feels the hand of "Roger" on every little ingenious details. Does he realize all the spyshots we've seen a few months ago were taken in Belgium and Holland. The bike was done before Dungey threw a leg over it. They even said they didn't want to try the new bike before Roczen's departure which means Roczen didn't participate to anything associate with the new bike and neither did Dungey...
It's a pretty small world these days TMV from a communications standpoint. Who's to say that there wasn't much collaboration between RD/RD, Austria, and the testers/developers elsewhere? And I could swear that I heard or read that DeCoster wanted Roczen to wait to make his decision too leave until after he got to ride it.
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mnomis484 wrote:
Everyone seems to think that the 15 FE and the stock '16 are the same bike except graphics, but i heard that the stock '16 Ktms...
Everyone seems to think that the 15 FE and the stock '16 are the same bike except graphics, but i heard that the stock '16 Ktms are not as similar to the FE as you might think Wink
A dealer from Belgium told me the 16 models would have a air fork and a air shock.. Personally i think that is not going to happen but i do not know why the dealer would say something like that if it's not true.
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ML512 3/6/2015 7:24am
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mnomis484 wrote:
Everyone seems to think that the 15 FE and the stock '16 are the same bike except graphics, but i heard that the stock '16 Ktms...
Everyone seems to think that the 15 FE and the stock '16 are the same bike except graphics, but i heard that the stock '16 Ktms are not as similar to the FE as you might think Wink
Vanilla wrote:
A dealer from Belgium told me the 16 models would have a air fork and a air shock.. Personally i think that is not going to...
A dealer from Belgium told me the 16 models would have a air fork and a air shock.. Personally i think that is not going to happen but i do not know why the dealer would say something like that if it's not true.
Air shock isn't going into production as of now, but it's likely they will have their new air fork for the 16 model, if not, it'll be 17.
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ML512 3/6/2015 7:30am
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TMV wrote:
Funny Pingree says in the racerx test he feels the hand of "Roger" on every little ingenious details. Does he realize all the spyshots we've seen...
Funny Pingree says in the racerx test he feels the hand of "Roger" on every little ingenious details. Does he realize all the spyshots we've seen a few months ago were taken in Belgium and Holland. The bike was done before Dungey threw a leg over it. They even said they didn't want to try the new bike before Roczen's departure which means Roczen didn't participate to anything associate with the new bike and neither did Dungey...
motomike137 wrote:
It's a pretty small world these days TMV from a communications standpoint. Who's to say that there wasn't much collaboration between RD/RD, Austria, and the testers/developers...
It's a pretty small world these days TMV from a communications standpoint. Who's to say that there wasn't much collaboration between RD/RD, Austria, and the testers/developers elsewhere? And I could swear that I heard or read that DeCoster wanted Roczen to wait to make his decision too leave until after he got to ride it.
TMV, US side was very heavily involved in what was needed. Along with the US side's head test rider, Mike Sleeter, spending a lot of time in Europe testing the bike as well.

Also, Ryan did ride an early version of the bike much earlier than you are stating.

http://www.vitalmx.com/photos/features/Inside-the-Factory-Edition-KTMs,…
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TMV 3/6/2015 7:37am
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TMV wrote:
Funny Pingree says in the racerx test he feels the hand of "Roger" on every little ingenious details. Does he realize all the spyshots we've seen...
Funny Pingree says in the racerx test he feels the hand of "Roger" on every little ingenious details. Does he realize all the spyshots we've seen a few months ago were taken in Belgium and Holland. The bike was done before Dungey threw a leg over it. They even said they didn't want to try the new bike before Roczen's departure which means Roczen didn't participate to anything associate with the new bike and neither did Dungey...
motomike137 wrote:
It's a pretty small world these days TMV from a communications standpoint. Who's to say that there wasn't much collaboration between RD/RD, Austria, and the testers/developers...
It's a pretty small world these days TMV from a communications standpoint. Who's to say that there wasn't much collaboration between RD/RD, Austria, and the testers/developers elsewhere? And I could swear that I heard or read that DeCoster wanted Roczen to wait to make his decision too leave until after he got to ride it.
ML512 wrote:
TMV, US side was very heavily involved in what was needed. Along with the US side's head test rider, Mike Sleeter, spending a lot of time...
TMV, US side was very heavily involved in what was needed. Along with the US side's head test rider, Mike Sleeter, spending a lot of time in Europe testing the bike as well.

Also, Ryan did ride an early version of the bike much earlier than you are stating.

http://www.vitalmx.com/photos/features/Inside-the-Factory-Edition-KTMs,…
OK guys, my bad then. I thought it was unfair to take the credit away from the european developpers and testers, don't want to take anything away from the US testers neither...
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kiwifan 3/6/2015 1:45pm
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kiwifan wrote:
KTM have got this sussed, they bring out what is basically a 2016 model 6 months early, charge a fortune for it and people buy them...
KTM have got this sussed, they bring out what is basically a 2016 model 6 months early, charge a fortune for it and people buy them all, plus it gives their racing teams an advantage, pretty clever really.
takitimu wrote:
& they get their new model beta tested whilst not losing to much money, I seriously doubt they make money on the FE. Not to mention...
& they get their new model beta tested whilst not losing to much money, I seriously doubt they make money on the FE. Not to mention the publicity.

I am just hoping the xcf250 2016 continues the theme & has the new frame etc Smile

yup, they are certainly doing it the right way.....
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mnomis484 3/9/2015 2:43pm
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mnomis484 wrote:
Everyone seems to think that the 15 FE and the stock '16 are the same bike except graphics, but i heard that the stock '16 Ktms...
Everyone seems to think that the 15 FE and the stock '16 are the same bike except graphics, but i heard that the stock '16 Ktms are not as similar to the FE as you might think Wink
Vanilla wrote:
A dealer from Belgium told me the 16 models would have a air fork and a air shock.. Personally i think that is not going to...
A dealer from Belgium told me the 16 models would have a air fork and a air shock.. Personally i think that is not going to happen but i do not know why the dealer would say something like that if it's not true.
ML512 wrote:
Air shock isn't going into production as of now, but it's likely they will have their new air fork for the 16 model, if not, it'll...
Air shock isn't going into production as of now, but it's likely they will have their new air fork for the 16 model, if not, it'll be 17.
No air shock, but the EU sxf 450 will get air forks(350 and 250 probably too). Air chamber only in one fork leg, like most other manufacturers do. Seems to be working pretty well from what i have heard. Not sure about the US model though, the forks have been different in the past.
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kiwifan 3/9/2015 2:50pm
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mnomis484 wrote:
No air shock, but the EU sxf 450 will get air forks(350 and 250 probably too). Air chamber only in one fork leg, like most other...
No air shock, but the EU sxf 450 will get air forks(350 and 250 probably too). Air chamber only in one fork leg, like most other manufacturers do. Seems to be working pretty well from what i have heard. Not sure about the US model though, the forks have been different in the past.
I hope it doesnt have air forks, some refuse to ride air forked bikes, Yamaha might be the only ones with non air forks in 2016!!!
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Holker10 3/9/2015 3:57pm
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I spoke to the KTM rep on Sat. He told me they should be on the truck from the east coast. I am in Iowa and he seemed pretty confident my 450 should be on it and here this week. He said the weather has held them up a little. I AM PATIENTLY WAITING!

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