Picked up some Ti trickness today!

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Litespeed Titanium 6/4, Dura Ace equipped scooter. Gotta get the knee back into shape! Anyone else have one of these for mx conditioning? Would love some input on this bike or any moto-themed cycling!



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1/30/2015 1:39pm Edited Date/Time 1/30/2015 1:40pm
That's a sweet ride. Litespeed builds very nice bikes. Taken it out on the road yet? They're supposed to be very stiff. Not the newest but it sounds like you have a very good setup right there.

Edit: See you live in MI and snow outside. Switch to a trainer tire. Will work wonders.
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Your only cheating yourself! you will get a better workout on a piece of shit heavy bike!
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Olson wrote:
That's a sweet ride. Litespeed builds very nice bikes. Taken it out on the road yet? They're supposed to be very stiff. Not the newest but...
That's a sweet ride. Litespeed builds very nice bikes. Taken it out on the road yet? They're supposed to be very stiff. Not the newest but it sounds like you have a very good setup right there.

Edit: See you live in MI and snow outside. Switch to a trainer tire. Will work wonders.
The roads are pure ice, so I'm trainer bound for a while. I'll have to get a tire for it, didn't even know they made them! I'm pretty green on road bikes, my brother and father-in-law helped me find this baby for 800 bucks so I grabbed it. Should do the trick. Is a ridged frame bad on road bikes? Would a steel moly soak up the breaking bumps? Lol
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1/30/2015 2:02pm Edited Date/Time 1/30/2015 2:03pm
Olson wrote:
That's a sweet ride. Litespeed builds very nice bikes. Taken it out on the road yet? They're supposed to be very stiff. Not the newest but...
That's a sweet ride. Litespeed builds very nice bikes. Taken it out on the road yet? They're supposed to be very stiff. Not the newest but it sounds like you have a very good setup right there.

Edit: See you live in MI and snow outside. Switch to a trainer tire. Will work wonders.
MxKing809 wrote:
The roads are pure ice, so I'm trainer bound for a while. I'll have to get a tire for it, didn't even know they made them...
The roads are pure ice, so I'm trainer bound for a while. I'll have to get a tire for it, didn't even know they made them! I'm pretty green on road bikes, my brother and father-in-law helped me find this baby for 800 bucks so I grabbed it. Should do the trick. Is a ridged frame bad on road bikes? Would a steel moly soak up the breaking bumps? Lol
If you think there's a sea of trick parts and aftermarket parts for mx you will drown in cycling. There's a thing for every purpose.

You want a stiff/firm frame. Nothing worse when you try to push and the frame and wheels flex. The ride gets a little more bumpy but it's absolutely worth it. Never tried a ti-frame myself. They're not that common. We do have a Litespeed dealer in town, been thinking about getting one for a testride but am afraid Im going to want one too much. A brand new Litespeed T1 goes for about $4000 and that's JUST the frame.

I switched to cycling myself a couple of years ago because of bad knees. It works for me and my father. Try not to push it too much in higher gears in the beginning. Trial and error what your knee can take.

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Olson wrote:
That's a sweet ride. Litespeed builds very nice bikes. Taken it out on the road yet? They're supposed to be very stiff. Not the newest but...
That's a sweet ride. Litespeed builds very nice bikes. Taken it out on the road yet? They're supposed to be very stiff. Not the newest but it sounds like you have a very good setup right there.

Edit: See you live in MI and snow outside. Switch to a trainer tire. Will work wonders.
MxKing809 wrote:
The roads are pure ice, so I'm trainer bound for a while. I'll have to get a tire for it, didn't even know they made them...
The roads are pure ice, so I'm trainer bound for a while. I'll have to get a tire for it, didn't even know they made them! I'm pretty green on road bikes, my brother and father-in-law helped me find this baby for 800 bucks so I grabbed it. Should do the trick. Is a ridged frame bad on road bikes? Would a steel moly soak up the breaking bumps? Lol
Olson wrote:
If you think there's a sea of trick parts and aftermarket parts for mx you will drown in cycling. There's a thing for every purpose. You...
If you think there's a sea of trick parts and aftermarket parts for mx you will drown in cycling. There's a thing for every purpose.

You want a stiff/firm frame. Nothing worse when you try to push and the frame and wheels flex. The ride gets a little more bumpy but it's absolutely worth it. Never tried a ti-frame myself. They're not that common. We do have a Litespeed dealer in town, been thinking about getting one for a testride but am afraid Im going to want one too much. A brand new Litespeed T1 goes for about $4000 and that's JUST the frame.

I switched to cycling myself a couple of years ago because of bad knees. It works for me and my father. Try not to push it too much in higher gears in the beginning. Trial and error what your knee can take.
Ok, thanks!

I'm in the same boat as you in terms of wanting too much, but still wanted to get something I would be happy with in 8 months instead of constantly wanting to upgrade. I think I found it, I just need to get some goofy spandex and ride around with a bunch of weird dudes also in spandex
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Yes stiffness is good for power transfer, but it's also good for road vibration transfer, unfortunately. I had an aluminum framed road bike. It was stiff and quick but buzzed my hands and ass numb. I have a carbon bike now and it's noticeably more supple on gritty roads. I've never ridden a Ti-framed bike but I know a few guys who have Litespeeds and they seem to like them.

Having fun on a road bike is all about comfort. Finding a seat that makes your ass happy is the trickiest yet most important thing to do.

Sign up for Strava and join the VitalMX club: https://www.strava.com/clubs/vitalmx

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MxKing809 wrote:
The roads are pure ice, so I'm trainer bound for a while. I'll have to get a tire for it, didn't even know they made them...
The roads are pure ice, so I'm trainer bound for a while. I'll have to get a tire for it, didn't even know they made them! I'm pretty green on road bikes, my brother and father-in-law helped me find this baby for 800 bucks so I grabbed it. Should do the trick. Is a ridged frame bad on road bikes? Would a steel moly soak up the breaking bumps? Lol
Olson wrote:
If you think there's a sea of trick parts and aftermarket parts for mx you will drown in cycling. There's a thing for every purpose. You...
If you think there's a sea of trick parts and aftermarket parts for mx you will drown in cycling. There's a thing for every purpose.

You want a stiff/firm frame. Nothing worse when you try to push and the frame and wheels flex. The ride gets a little more bumpy but it's absolutely worth it. Never tried a ti-frame myself. They're not that common. We do have a Litespeed dealer in town, been thinking about getting one for a testride but am afraid Im going to want one too much. A brand new Litespeed T1 goes for about $4000 and that's JUST the frame.

I switched to cycling myself a couple of years ago because of bad knees. It works for me and my father. Try not to push it too much in higher gears in the beginning. Trial and error what your knee can take.
MxKing809 wrote:
Ok, thanks! I'm in the same boat as you in terms of wanting too much, but still wanted to get something I would be happy with...
Ok, thanks!

I'm in the same boat as you in terms of wanting too much, but still wanted to get something I would be happy with in 8 months instead of constantly wanting to upgrade. I think I found it, I just need to get some goofy spandex and ride around with a bunch of weird dudes also in spandex
Haha first time in spandex is hilarious if you're as imature as me.

The deal with cycling compared to mx is in mx there's an ending to trick parts. You get a long way with a good setup suspension and an exhaust. In cycling that gets you a rear wheel. As I said. It's a sea of parts. Find out what you need and stick with it. I think you're more than good enough with what you've got for a while. Personally I would by a set of SPD pedals and shoes. No hurry with that though. Service on a bike costs nothing. You have a good gear setup and great wheels. Find a comfortable seat and riding position and you can ride for years.
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Nice find for 800! I always wanted a litespeed because they were made in the town I grew up in. Plus, I always thought it was cool that a small company like litespeed helped trek and Lance Armstrong win the Tour de France. This past fall I purchased a Lynskey (used to make Litespped) and have fallen in love with road bikes. Two purchases that really improved the ride for me were quality clip-ins and high quality riding clothes. They are goofy but made the ride more enjoyable. Also get the strave app.
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Olson wrote:
If you think there's a sea of trick parts and aftermarket parts for mx you will drown in cycling. There's a thing for every purpose. You...
If you think there's a sea of trick parts and aftermarket parts for mx you will drown in cycling. There's a thing for every purpose.

You want a stiff/firm frame. Nothing worse when you try to push and the frame and wheels flex. The ride gets a little more bumpy but it's absolutely worth it. Never tried a ti-frame myself. They're not that common. We do have a Litespeed dealer in town, been thinking about getting one for a testride but am afraid Im going to want one too much. A brand new Litespeed T1 goes for about $4000 and that's JUST the frame.

I switched to cycling myself a couple of years ago because of bad knees. It works for me and my father. Try not to push it too much in higher gears in the beginning. Trial and error what your knee can take.
MxKing809 wrote:
Ok, thanks! I'm in the same boat as you in terms of wanting too much, but still wanted to get something I would be happy with...
Ok, thanks!

I'm in the same boat as you in terms of wanting too much, but still wanted to get something I would be happy with in 8 months instead of constantly wanting to upgrade. I think I found it, I just need to get some goofy spandex and ride around with a bunch of weird dudes also in spandex
Olson wrote:
Haha first time in spandex is hilarious if you're as imature as me. The deal with cycling compared to mx is in mx there's an ending...
Haha first time in spandex is hilarious if you're as imature as me.

The deal with cycling compared to mx is in mx there's an ending to trick parts. You get a long way with a good setup suspension and an exhaust. In cycling that gets you a rear wheel. As I said. It's a sea of parts. Find out what you need and stick with it. I think you're more than good enough with what you've got for a while. Personally I would by a set of SPD pedals and shoes. No hurry with that though. Service on a bike costs nothing. You have a good gear setup and great wheels. Find a comfortable seat and riding position and you can ride for years.
I have clip in pedals, I just threw these in because I didn't get shoes yet. I'll have to join the Strava clan and be embarrassed by my numbers lol.

And I'm learning quickly about the trick parts, these guys are more anal about their rides than we are.... And that's saying a lot!!
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Yeah the trickness is an addiction. Some of the numbers people put down on strava during a week blow me away. I
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MxKing809 wrote:
I have clip in pedals, I just threw these in because I didn't get shoes yet. I'll have to join the Strava clan and be embarrassed...
I have clip in pedals, I just threw these in because I didn't get shoes yet. I'll have to join the Strava clan and be embarrassed by my numbers lol.

And I'm learning quickly about the trick parts, these guys are more anal about their rides than we are.... And that's saying a lot!!
Any numbers are good numbers! We're lapping everyone on the couch.
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FGR01 wrote:
Any numbers are good numbers! We're lapping everyone on the couch.
True.
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Oh yeah, ti is awesome. Had a custom ti CX bike built last year with di2 and disc brakes, plus a HT MTB from the same builder. Back when Bob Roll raced mtb for litespeed, he said that riding a litespeed was like riding a finely tuned piano.

+1 on the trainer tire. I have a Vittoria trainer tire that just hit 3K miles. I like it better than the continental one I had previously.

Cycling is the perfect sport if you like to geek out on details and data.
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I just got back to riding on the street after several months break. I rode about 96 miles this week. I sometimes just wear my padded mtb bike shorts. Just do your own thing, who cares?
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Sweet bike, priced right!! I would have figured the Ti frame would make for a smooth ride, not overly firm/stiff??? My wife's aluminum tri bike would rattle your teeth out of your head, screw that.
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you did fine @ 800.00 ti bike.
had a ti merlin then onto carbon specialized. yes the carbon is better on bumps,but ti is fine.
they make a "trainer" tire .if you want to save your rear road tire from fast wear.
if you want a better ride,replace seatpost with a carbon one.good to go.
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Ti will give you a very supple ride, better than many carbon bikes. This model does not look like one of the very stiff ones (with the aero, more heavily manipulated tubing). I have owned Litespeeds (the older ones made by the Lynskey's) and they were great bikes.

One of the best things about them is that they will never rust and you can throw them down the road and unlike a carbon frame, they will not break up.

I would echo the other comment on the tire: get a cheapo made for a trainer to use on it.
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Get a fitting done by a good shop that caters to the road crowd. It makes a huge difference in performance and comfort...or at least it did for me.
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GuyB wrote:
Get a fitting done by a good shop that caters to the road crowd. It makes a huge difference in performance and comfort...or at least it...
Get a fitting done by a good shop that caters to the road crowd. It makes a huge difference in performance and comfort...or at least it did for me.
Will do GuyB! There is a new local shop ran by Andrew Shorts uncle...... He had me at hello lol
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GuyB wrote:
Get a fitting done by a good shop that caters to the road crowd. It makes a huge difference in performance and comfort...or at least it...
Get a fitting done by a good shop that caters to the road crowd. It makes a huge difference in performance and comfort...or at least it did for me.
This is the best advice you can get. But since you've already bought a bike there's only so much they can do about frame geometry. But riding positiong is essential. Everyone is different. Even if I got my current bike fitted and test ridden it took me several hours in the saddle to find the sweet spot of post height, seat angle, bar angle, height and so on.

When you ride your bike in the trainer it helps to put a piece of wood under the front wheel. Since the trainer lifts the rear wheel up you get the feeling of always sitting in a downhill (don't adjust anything according to that). And I find it also kind of hard to ride in an attack position on the trainer and you end up in upright position. If you do, bend your elbows or your shoulders will be in pain.
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Cycling is one of the biggest rip off or most expensive sports there is. Shit is crazy. 3k plus for a wheel set. I really enjoy it but man sometimes it's tourture when you just wanna get home and you have another hour to go along with horrible wind.

Nice set up brw I think you are good to go
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If you're in So. Mich check out this guy for fitting: http://adamssportsmedicine.com/

He really knows his stuff.

Sweet bike
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I live in 'Mid Michigan', specifically Bay City so it's quite a hike down to Novi. I bought the bike from a friend/shop in Alma and they did a fit test before I took 'er home. I just need to fine tune it now!!
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I forgot about the fitting. Made a huge difference. Someone above mentioned a seat post. Look at the ti seat post from lynskey. Blends beautifully and effective.
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when you get out on the road the best advice I ever received was from an old school racer..."find a gear that works for you and stick with it"

cadence or RPM at the crank is way more important than road speed. Some guys might think im crazy, but for me what works is the tall chain ring and from the largest to forth down rear cog and I rarely get out of that range of gears.

on the trainer I would set a time goal like 30 minute at a normal easy break a sweat pace, after that gets easy do some simple intervals such as 5 minutes easy spin to 1 minute of out of saddle sprint in a taller (harder) gear and do that for the 30 minutes

keep it simple and experiment and you will get that hang of what will work for you... oh yeah get some good riding bib shorts not 30 dollar cheapies or your ass will hate you for it! Tongue
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I quit road riding after the advent of the smart phone. My $5k Dura-ace Klein collects dust now.
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Cycling is a great cross training activity for moto. I started out on mountain bikes because you get an excellent cardio
workout plus you get to work on your line selection at the same time. It's also a lot of fun. I added road bikes to the mix
years later and got caught up in the light weight craze. I'm embarrassed to say that my road and mountain bikes cost more
than my new MXers.

I used to trade up every couple of years, but I stopped that in 2008 with my last Trek Madone. It doesn't have the latest
electronic shifters, internal cable routing and all that, but it's good enough for me:



Some "pearls" of knowledge I can pass on, just like anything else, invest in a good helmet. We have had more than one
member of our cycling club wake up in the hospital after being on solo rides - no memory of what happened, but their
helmets all had impact damage. In other words, they probably wouldn't have survived without those helmets. Another thing,
I recommend you practice clipping in and out of your pedals with someone holding you and your bike up before going on the
road The action is not intuitive at first and there is nothing more embarrassing than falling over because you couldn't get
your feet down. I see from the picture you already have a "hills" cassette on the back, you will really appreciate that,
especially if you only have a double chain ring up front. Like has been mentioned, a good fitting is important. Once you start
riding centuries and multi day events, you will really appreciate a bike that doesn't cause more harm than good. Finally, invest
wisely in that "funny looking' spandex, especially the shorts. A good pair of shorts and "chamois" is all that's between you and
no fun.

dogger

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