From Bill Lear (Lear Jet)

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A Humble Plea to both McCain and Obama Supporters:

Dear friends,

I am truly astonished by the ignorance Obama supporters have displayed
in their quest to get someone - ANYONE - into the White House.

Now, wait a minute. I can well understand your dislike or even hatred of our clown, GWB, but he is not the root cause of all of our problems. Our Congress is. And a change there would be welcomed by all. You ain't gonna get it done with Obama. You gotta fire the whole damnable crooked Congress. (Read my book, "BERNIE'S WAR!").

Perhaps I'm looking at all of this from a different perspective than you because my life experiences have been so different from yours. I'm 80-years old and have traveled the world where I've seen a great deal. I spent five years on active duty as a fighter pilot in the USAF and another seven years flying with the Air National Guard in California and
Texas as well as a few years flying in the USAF Reserve. I spent three years on active duty in Germany flying Czech border patrol with "cold guns" in aircraft inferior to the MIG during the Korean "Police Action" when it was thought that Korea was a diversion for a Soviet invasion of Western Europe.

I lived abroad for a total of 28 years. Three years in Germany, twenty years in switzerland and five years in Great Britain where I was based doing "spook" work for the U.S. behind the Iron Curtain before it fell. During that era of the Cold War I ventured to Moscow, Prague, Warsaw, Bucharest, Peshawar, Pakistan and Bulgaria posing as a Swiss French-speaking arms dealer purchasing weapons we surreptitiously supplied to the Afghani Mujahedeen in their successful fight against the Soviets - all of which came back to haunt us.

I've been there and done that and have had close associations with top government people in Germany, the Netherlands and Great Britain. I've had more foreign affair experience than Obama could ever dream of and, yet, wouldn't have the temerity to deign myself "Presidential" material; although I feel eminently more qualified to judge who would NOT be best for our country. My long-time world experience should count for
something in my plea to you to abandon this miscreant flake. You will only be doing yourself and our country an enormous disservice if you persist in your support of this flash-in-the-pan opportunist. On this, you MUST trust me.

I've associated closely with European royalty and African politicians. I've traveled to the Far East to observe their cultures. My point is that Obama, although formally well educated and a brilliant orator, is a neophyte when it comes to understanding the world and is uniquely unqualified for the job as President of these great United States. His
knowledge of economics is nil and his tax proposals absurd and life-threatening to the U.S. not only in economic terms but in preserving our national security as well. I don't want a "citizen of the world" to be President, I want a citizen of the good old USA to be
President.

Screw the rest of the world as they have well and truly screwed us. The time has come for us to awaken and start looking after ourselves. Now THAT would be CHANGE if that's what you're looking for.

While McCain has abstained from playing "the race-card", Obama is playing it to the hilt even though he's technically not an African-American. To qualify for this distinction you must be at least one-sixth black. Obama is only one-eighth. His father would be, as he was one-sixth. No, Obama is more Muslim than black yet he trades on his blackness.

The larger question I have about him is that we really don't know much about him other than what HE tells us, what we read on blogs and from some serious non-partisan investigators whose factual reports are, unfortunately, generally ignored and which receive precious little media exposure.

I, as a registered Independent, a military veteran and a patriot, beseech you to put aside party considerations and vote for the lesser of the two evils. Yes, I am NOT a McCain supporter, but he is, at least, not a flake, doesn't carry Muslim baggage and is a PROVEN hero and patriot WITH experience. It's not a party issue. It's all about electing the best we can trust with what we've got to work with. Mr. Obama is NOT that guy.

Please, please rethink your voting position. Thanks for reading my innermost thoughts. I care about all of you, but I care more about our country. Please help me to do both.

William P. (Bill) Lear, Jr.
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yeah,smear the queer
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10/20/2008 8:36pm
Why wouldn't a "registered independent" that supports neither Obama or McCain just vote for one of the independents?

Smells like one of those internet BS letters to me.
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jmar wrote:
Why wouldn't a "registered independent" that supports neither Obama or McCain just vote for one of the independents? Smells like one of those internet BS letters...
Why wouldn't a "registered independent" that supports neither Obama or McCain just vote for one of the independents?

Smells like one of those internet BS letters to me.
Because he knows its a waisted vote..
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jmar wrote:
Why wouldn't a "registered independent" that supports neither Obama or McCain just vote for one of the independents? Smells like one of those internet BS letters...
Why wouldn't a "registered independent" that supports neither Obama or McCain just vote for one of the independents?

Smells like one of those internet BS letters to me.
Scotty wrote:
Because he knows its a waisted vote..
No vote is wasted unless you cast your vote for a candidate that you truly don’t believe in.
As long as everyone continues to believe as you do the Republicans and Democrats will continue to spend all of their time and energy doing the work of their party instead of the doing the work of the people.

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10/20/2008 9:47pm
Bill Lear is dead. Lear is owned by Bombadier. Jr Lear has no clout. So...makes no sense.

I'm too lazy to verify, but this seems bogus.
10/20/2008 10:46pm
MXMatt wrote:
A Humble Plea to both McCain and Obama Supporters: Dear friends, I am truly astonished by the ignorance Obama supporters have displayed in their quest to...
A Humble Plea to both McCain and Obama Supporters:

Dear friends,

I am truly astonished by the ignorance Obama supporters have displayed
in their quest to get someone - ANYONE - into the White House.

Now, wait a minute. I can well understand your dislike or even hatred of our clown, GWB, but he is not the root cause of all of our problems. Our Congress is. And a change there would be welcomed by all. You ain't gonna get it done with Obama. You gotta fire the whole damnable crooked Congress. (Read my book, "BERNIE'S WAR!").

Perhaps I'm looking at all of this from a different perspective than you because my life experiences have been so different from yours. I'm 80-years old and have traveled the world where I've seen a great deal. I spent five years on active duty as a fighter pilot in the USAF and another seven years flying with the Air National Guard in California and
Texas as well as a few years flying in the USAF Reserve. I spent three years on active duty in Germany flying Czech border patrol with "cold guns" in aircraft inferior to the MIG during the Korean "Police Action" when it was thought that Korea was a diversion for a Soviet invasion of Western Europe.

I lived abroad for a total of 28 years. Three years in Germany, twenty years in switzerland and five years in Great Britain where I was based doing "spook" work for the U.S. behind the Iron Curtain before it fell. During that era of the Cold War I ventured to Moscow, Prague, Warsaw, Bucharest, Peshawar, Pakistan and Bulgaria posing as a Swiss French-speaking arms dealer purchasing weapons we surreptitiously supplied to the Afghani Mujahedeen in their successful fight against the Soviets - all of which came back to haunt us.

I've been there and done that and have had close associations with top government people in Germany, the Netherlands and Great Britain. I've had more foreign affair experience than Obama could ever dream of and, yet, wouldn't have the temerity to deign myself "Presidential" material; although I feel eminently more qualified to judge who would NOT be best for our country. My long-time world experience should count for
something in my plea to you to abandon this miscreant flake. You will only be doing yourself and our country an enormous disservice if you persist in your support of this flash-in-the-pan opportunist. On this, you MUST trust me.

I've associated closely with European royalty and African politicians. I've traveled to the Far East to observe their cultures. My point is that Obama, although formally well educated and a brilliant orator, is a neophyte when it comes to understanding the world and is uniquely unqualified for the job as President of these great United States. His
knowledge of economics is nil and his tax proposals absurd and life-threatening to the U.S. not only in economic terms but in preserving our national security as well. I don't want a "citizen of the world" to be President, I want a citizen of the good old USA to be
President.

Screw the rest of the world as they have well and truly screwed us. The time has come for us to awaken and start looking after ourselves. Now THAT would be CHANGE if that's what you're looking for.

While McCain has abstained from playing "the race-card", Obama is playing it to the hilt even though he's technically not an African-American. To qualify for this distinction you must be at least one-sixth black. Obama is only one-eighth. His father would be, as he was one-sixth. No, Obama is more Muslim than black yet he trades on his blackness.

The larger question I have about him is that we really don't know much about him other than what HE tells us, what we read on blogs and from some serious non-partisan investigators whose factual reports are, unfortunately, generally ignored and which receive precious little media exposure.

I, as a registered Independent, a military veteran and a patriot, beseech you to put aside party considerations and vote for the lesser of the two evils. Yes, I am NOT a McCain supporter, but he is, at least, not a flake, doesn't carry Muslim baggage and is a PROVEN hero and patriot WITH experience. It's not a party issue. It's all about electing the best we can trust with what we've got to work with. Mr. Obama is NOT that guy.

Please, please rethink your voting position. Thanks for reading my innermost thoughts. I care about all of you, but I care more about our country. Please help me to do both.

William P. (Bill) Lear, Jr.
This probably is a fake email, considering the bulk of fake ones previously. However, even if not, this guy is older than McCain, and it's obvious that he's not smart enough to cut through the "Muslim" BS, and the rest of it. In short, he's not a good personality to hang your hat on. You'd be better off with Ted Nugent.
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10/20/2008 11:07pm
This probably is a fake email, considering the bulk of fake ones previously. However, even if not, this guy is older than McCain, and it's obvious...
This probably is a fake email, considering the bulk of fake ones previously. However, even if not, this guy is older than McCain, and it's obvious that he's not smart enough to cut through the "Muslim" BS, and the rest of it. In short, he's not a good personality to hang your hat on. You'd be better off with Ted Nugent.
If it's not a fake email, then it's what this guy thinks.

10/20/2008 11:08pm
This probably is a fake email, considering the bulk of fake ones previously. However, even if not, this guy is older than McCain, and it's obvious...
This probably is a fake email, considering the bulk of fake ones previously. However, even if not, this guy is older than McCain, and it's obvious that he's not smart enough to cut through the "Muslim" BS, and the rest of it. In short, he's not a good personality to hang your hat on. You'd be better off with Ted Nugent.
MXMatt wrote:
If it's not a fake email, then it's what this guy thinks.

And if he's dumb enough to still buy the "Muslim" thing, he's just really senile.
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10/20/2008 11:33pm
And if he's dumb enough to still buy the "Muslim" thing, he's just really senile.
Fact is, neither you nor I or anyone on this board can really know the desires or the intentions of someone's heart. I have met far too many a sociopath in my lifetime to say I know someon is this or that. Hypothetically, If Obama is connected to many who he is alleged to be with then he certainly has a vested interest in down playing them and/or disguising them. If those relationships in fact are what they are, then the populace is being completely snowed right now and it will be far too late once it is learned. No thanks to his sweetheart, the liberal media.
10/20/2008 11:38pm
And if he's dumb enough to still buy the "Muslim" thing, he's just really senile.
MXMatt wrote:
Fact is, neither you nor I or anyone on this board can really know the desires or the intentions of someone's heart. I have met far...
Fact is, neither you nor I or anyone on this board can really know the desires or the intentions of someone's heart. I have met far too many a sociopath in my lifetime to say I know someon is this or that. Hypothetically, If Obama is connected to many who he is alleged to be with then he certainly has a vested interest in down playing them and/or disguising them. If those relationships in fact are what they are, then the populace is being completely snowed right now and it will be far too late once it is learned. No thanks to his sweetheart, the liberal media.
Are you kidding?
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10/21/2008 1:59am
It does sound like a fake chain email but I can't find anything on snopes about it. I did find an interesting read about Bill Lear Jr on his site:

http://www.billlear.com/lear_gene.htm

I knew there was something else about the guy I had read recently and that was his UFO experiences (also mentioned slightly in that article).
10/21/2008 2:08am
Ahahaha geeze they must really be freaking out over in camp McCain , they are throwing hail marys left and right. Two weeks till the we find out!!!
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10/21/2008 4:09am
Lear died in 1978.

Dumb ass public.
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jtomasik wrote:
Lear died in 1978.

Dumb ass public.
But Bill Lear Jr was born in 1928 which would make him 80 like he says. Googled it.

Doesn't mean he said it though.
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fake or not it is well said.
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BDOG wrote:
fake or not it is well said.
Well said?

Well, first of all, being Muslim is a religion, not a race, so that is a retarded statement.
And the 'screw the world' bit isn't something that a guy who is purported to be a world traveler would say.

So if you mean that it reinforces your narrow point of view, say that.

But don't say that any of it is 'well said' because it only makes you look ignorant.

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BDOG wrote:
fake or not it is well said.
How?

It addresses no issues or policies and is solely an attack pieced based entirely on his opinion and false innuendo.
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So if you mean that it reinforces your narrow point of view, say that.

yep, that's what he meant.

Dave has it. There's ZERO facts in there and all opinion.

Summary:

'I've been from here to there, done this and done that...and BO is a bad guy. '


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BDOG wrote:
fake or not it is well said.
indy_maico wrote:
Well said? Well, first of all, being Muslim is a religion, not a race, so that is a retarded statement. And the 'screw the world' bit...
Well said?

Well, first of all, being Muslim is a religion, not a race, so that is a retarded statement.
And the 'screw the world' bit isn't something that a guy who is purported to be a world traveler would say.

So if you mean that it reinforces your narrow point of view, say that.

But don't say that any of it is 'well said' because it only makes you look ignorant.

It's not claiming that The Obama is Muslim, It says he's "more Muslim than black" meaning he's not really black.

I'm not defending the letter writer's opinion, just reading what was written.
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BDOG wrote:
fake or not it is well said.
indy_maico wrote:
Well said? Well, first of all, being Muslim is a religion, not a race, so that is a retarded statement. And the 'screw the world' bit...
Well said?

Well, first of all, being Muslim is a religion, not a race, so that is a retarded statement.
And the 'screw the world' bit isn't something that a guy who is purported to be a world traveler would say.

So if you mean that it reinforces your narrow point of view, say that.

But don't say that any of it is 'well said' because it only makes you look ignorant.

SEEMEFIRST wrote:
It's not claiming that The Obama is Muslim, It says he's "more Muslim than black" meaning he's not really black. I'm not defending the letter writer's...
It's not claiming that The Obama is Muslim, It says he's "more Muslim than black" meaning he's not really black.

I'm not defending the letter writer's opinion, just reading what was written.
Yes, I am NOT a McCain supporter, but he is, at least, not a flake, doesn't carry Muslim baggage and is a PROVEN hero and patriot WITH experience.

Then what does he mean by, Muslim baggage?
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Like it or no.... The anger incumbent in the black community (Jeremiah Wright, Malcom X, Farrakhan, etc) is a natural bedfellow of the Islamic anger we see in many muslims.

That is why those two have moved beyond making eyes at each other to intersocial marriage by eloping. Admittedly there are aberrant examples of exceptions each on each side, but neither side can conceal their fundamental coalescence.


oG
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And if he's dumb enough to still buy the "Muslim" thing, he's just really senile.
MXMatt wrote:
Fact is, neither you nor I or anyone on this board can really know the desires or the intentions of someone's heart. I have met far...
Fact is, neither you nor I or anyone on this board can really know the desires or the intentions of someone's heart. I have met far too many a sociopath in my lifetime to say I know someon is this or that. Hypothetically, If Obama is connected to many who he is alleged to be with then he certainly has a vested interest in down playing them and/or disguising them. If those relationships in fact are what they are, then the populace is being completely snowed right now and it will be far too late once it is learned. No thanks to his sweetheart, the liberal media.
Are you kidding?
Have ever truely dealt with a sociopath? If you had, then you would understand what I am saying.

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So now Jeremiah Wright is a Muslim?


Oh, "muslim baggage" means he's accused of being Muslim.
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flarider wrote:
So now Jeremiah Wright is a Muslim?


Oh, "muslim baggage" means he's accused of being Muslim.
no,he just hates white people
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BTW - The letter is a chain email. I got it from a family member. I have no idea where it came from. I just found the reading to be an interesting perspective. It obviously was worth replying to for some of you. I could not find it on Snopes prior to posting it. Figured it may have some validity. They are Bill's words, not mine.
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It says he's "more Muslim than black" meaning he's not really black.

So, he's not black, white or Muslim...... I'm confused
How about we just call him POTUS.
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At least you get it BP. Hypothetically, IF Obama isn't what he says he is, then your humorous picture above will be replaced by something horrific and real. At this point, I don't trust the media is doing a accruate job about Obama's past. I think the guy is a cool fella, but like some other board members, I can't support him on enough issues to vote for him. His opponent doesn't excite me much either.
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MXMatt wrote:
BTW - The letter is a chain email. I got it from a family member. I have no idea where it came from. I just found...
BTW - The letter is a chain email. I got it from a family member. I have no idea where it came from. I just found the reading to be an interesting perspective. It obviously was worth replying to for some of you. I could not find it on Snopes prior to posting it. Figured it may have some validity. They are Bill's words, not mine.
About the only place I could find it was on this anti-Obama site:

http://obama-barrack.com/?p=31

The only thing I can find on Snopes about Bill Lear is that he has a daughter named "Shanda Lear":

http://www.snopes.com/racial/language/names.asp
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Worse. Use your imagination.
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10/21/2008 10:30am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:55pm
MXMatt wrote:
A Humble Plea to both McCain and Obama Supporters: Dear friends, I am truly astonished by the ignorance Obama supporters have displayed in their quest to...
A Humble Plea to both McCain and Obama Supporters:

Dear friends,

I am truly astonished by the ignorance Obama supporters have displayed
in their quest to get someone - ANYONE - into the White House.

Now, wait a minute. I can well understand your dislike or even hatred of our clown, GWB, but he is not the root cause of all of our problems. Our Congress is. And a change there would be welcomed by all. You ain't gonna get it done with Obama. You gotta fire the whole damnable crooked Congress. (Read my book, "BERNIE'S WAR!").

Perhaps I'm looking at all of this from a different perspective than you because my life experiences have been so different from yours. I'm 80-years old and have traveled the world where I've seen a great deal. I spent five years on active duty as a fighter pilot in the USAF and another seven years flying with the Air National Guard in California and
Texas as well as a few years flying in the USAF Reserve. I spent three years on active duty in Germany flying Czech border patrol with "cold guns" in aircraft inferior to the MIG during the Korean "Police Action" when it was thought that Korea was a diversion for a Soviet invasion of Western Europe.

I lived abroad for a total of 28 years. Three years in Germany, twenty years in switzerland and five years in Great Britain where I was based doing "spook" work for the U.S. behind the Iron Curtain before it fell. During that era of the Cold War I ventured to Moscow, Prague, Warsaw, Bucharest, Peshawar, Pakistan and Bulgaria posing as a Swiss French-speaking arms dealer purchasing weapons we surreptitiously supplied to the Afghani Mujahedeen in their successful fight against the Soviets - all of which came back to haunt us.

I've been there and done that and have had close associations with top government people in Germany, the Netherlands and Great Britain. I've had more foreign affair experience than Obama could ever dream of and, yet, wouldn't have the temerity to deign myself "Presidential" material; although I feel eminently more qualified to judge who would NOT be best for our country. My long-time world experience should count for
something in my plea to you to abandon this miscreant flake. You will only be doing yourself and our country an enormous disservice if you persist in your support of this flash-in-the-pan opportunist. On this, you MUST trust me.

I've associated closely with European royalty and African politicians. I've traveled to the Far East to observe their cultures. My point is that Obama, although formally well educated and a brilliant orator, is a neophyte when it comes to understanding the world and is uniquely unqualified for the job as President of these great United States. His
knowledge of economics is nil and his tax proposals absurd and life-threatening to the U.S. not only in economic terms but in preserving our national security as well. I don't want a "citizen of the world" to be President, I want a citizen of the good old USA to be
President.

Screw the rest of the world as they have well and truly screwed us. The time has come for us to awaken and start looking after ourselves. Now THAT would be CHANGE if that's what you're looking for.

While McCain has abstained from playing "the race-card", Obama is playing it to the hilt even though he's technically not an African-American. To qualify for this distinction you must be at least one-sixth black. Obama is only one-eighth. His father would be, as he was one-sixth. No, Obama is more Muslim than black yet he trades on his blackness.

The larger question I have about him is that we really don't know much about him other than what HE tells us, what we read on blogs and from some serious non-partisan investigators whose factual reports are, unfortunately, generally ignored and which receive precious little media exposure.

I, as a registered Independent, a military veteran and a patriot, beseech you to put aside party considerations and vote for the lesser of the two evils. Yes, I am NOT a McCain supporter, but he is, at least, not a flake, doesn't carry Muslim baggage and is a PROVEN hero and patriot WITH experience. It's not a party issue. It's all about electing the best we can trust with what we've got to work with. Mr. Obama is NOT that guy.

Please, please rethink your voting position. Thanks for reading my innermost thoughts. I care about all of you, but I care more about our country. Please help me to do both.

William P. (Bill) Lear, Jr.
Well, if you don't believe the media investigating it and you're not going to do it yourself, then you'll just go along with the lies and assumptions.


Makes perfect sense



BTW, I don't think the media has investigated Bigfoot enough, therefore it must be real

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