Why Jason Anderson May Just Be What the Sport Needs

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11/18/2014 12:27pm
I think Jason Anderson has a lot of potential to be a threat, and will contend for wins/podiums, but look at someone like Jake Weimer. He won a lot more than Anderson on 250's and look at him now. It's harsh but its the reality of professional motocross.
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11/18/2014 1:22pm
I think Anderson will surprise people, Tomac looks like he is on it this year already , but me and my lad were discussing watching the Paris SX , you can always rely on Tomac to deliver when it doesnt matter.. but when it comes down to a battle he seems to struggle ... well not struggle , but ride tight. I think Anderson will be good at A1, maybe top 5 with a start , and if he gets a start, and takes a few scalps the confidence that will give him will be huge.

I hope Millsaps stays fit , and puts in a season , he has the speed , at the MEC he was straight back on it , i think he will be the only threat to Roczen and Tomac over the whole season.
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11/18/2014 2:52pm
bd wrote:
There are differences between 1993 and 2014: 1993 had the following: - Stanton who was over trained and burned out - Bradshaw who hated his job...
There are differences between 1993 and 2014:

1993 had the following:

- Stanton who was over trained and burned out
- Bradshaw who hated his job (racing dirt bikes)
- MX Keid and Rock who were better outdoors
- MC who brought new technique

1993 could of been radically different with a healthy RJ, motivated JMB, passionate Bradshaw, and hungry Stanton. MC, who has a lot of talent and changed the game also came into 250 class at the perfect time.

2014

- Field is stacked and hungry with veterans (DM 18, Stew, Dunge, Canard, Barcia)
- Field is stacked with youth (Tomac and KROC)
- Field has some serious rookies (DW15, BB4, JA, CS14)

The rider you mentioned, MC, changed the game via new technique. Before him, it was Hannah and RJ. RC and RV followed MC by changing the game. How/what technique, training does JA18 bring to the table?

* RV is a living legend. Comparing the 2015 SX champ to RV is foolish and short sighted.
1993 had the following:

- Stanton who was over trained and burned out

Could the same thing not be said for Villopoto? The guy spent the last x number of years crushing everyone. That level of commitment is enough to drive anyone over the edge. Stanton was a stud though, dude did not have a flowing riding style, just muscled the bike around to one championship to another.
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11/18/2014 3:12pm
MC is the king. Even the greats usually spend their first season or two in the shit before breaking through. RC, Stew, RV...

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11/18/2014 3:14pm
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jonesaustin - I like you're thinking on this, but just don't see it happening. In 1993, McGrath was not only coming off of a much more...
jonesaustin - I like you're thinking on this, but just don't see it happening. In 1993, McGrath was not only coming off of a much more dominant two years in a row ('91 and '92) of winning the West Coast SX series (plus finishing runner up in '90), he also brought a whole new BMX-inspired riding style with him that no one had ever seen before in the 250 class. Bayle had his super smooth style, Bradshaw was a flashy basher, and Stanton was a work horse. McGrath's style was a mixture of Bayle and Bradshaw that left Stanton (and the rest of the stiff riding paradigm) literally in the dust.

I do agree that Anderson has a unique riding style that's very enjoyable to watch, but are his style and speed that much better than everyone else who will be competing in 2015 to run away with premier class title in his rookie year? No. I have no doubt that he has race winning speed, and he could even be a championship contender, but the field is far more skilled, practiced, and refined than they were 22 years ago. There are few riding techniques that are kept secret nowadays, and riders are far more apt to pick up new tricks that may or may not work (look at Bogle's foot thingy...the jury's still out on that one if it does anything but you see more and more riders doing it nowadays).

Riders that break molds and break new ground in MX are rare:

Bailey and Bayle - precise and smooth
Bradshaw and Hannah - raw speed
McGrath - BMX style precision combined with raw talent
Carmichael - raw speed and 100 percent commitment to winning at all costs
Pastrana - pure talent, creative, perfect balance
Stewart - created a new riding technique, displayed true athleticism on a motorcycle

I would put guys like Roczen and Tomac in this list long before Anderson, but all of their careers are young and they still have plenty of time to make their marks.
This is exceptional commentary bayodome, awesome points.
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11/18/2014 8:05pm
ando will be fine , tbh i do got him, deano or seely for the title & wheres the love for my boy deano....???? Sad Sad
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11/18/2014 8:36pm
Anderson is one of, if not the most, aggressive riders on a supercross track. Does that mean he'll win? Idk, but he's gonna try pretty fuckin hard.
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11/18/2014 8:52pm
bd wrote:
There are differences between 1993 and 2014: 1993 had the following: - Stanton who was over trained and burned out - Bradshaw who hated his job...
There are differences between 1993 and 2014:

1993 had the following:

- Stanton who was over trained and burned out
- Bradshaw who hated his job (racing dirt bikes)
- MX Keid and Rock who were better outdoors
- MC who brought new technique

1993 could of been radically different with a healthy RJ, motivated JMB, passionate Bradshaw, and hungry Stanton. MC, who has a lot of talent and changed the game also came into 250 class at the perfect time.

2014

- Field is stacked and hungry with veterans (DM 18, Stew, Dunge, Canard, Barcia)
- Field is stacked with youth (Tomac and KROC)
- Field has some serious rookies (DW15, BB4, JA, CS14)

The rider you mentioned, MC, changed the game via new technique. Before him, it was Hannah and RJ. RC and RV followed MC by changing the game. How/what technique, training does JA18 bring to the table?

* RV is a living legend. Comparing the 2015 SX champ to RV is foolish and short sighted.
Aye~

Your basically discrediting Mc for his rise in 93...get real!!





No where in my post did I discredit the rise of MC. I am stating facts. The field is radically different today than 1993. Stating MC with the likes of Hannah, RJ, RC and RV is holding him to the highest regard. The bottom line, MC changed the game. The million dollar question, had it initially been as easy with the hypothetical field I stated? Let me ask you this.... are discrediting RJ, JMB, Bradshaw, and Stanton? My question is as fucking crazy as your statement.
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11/18/2014 8:55pm
bd wrote:
There are differences between 1993 and 2014: 1993 had the following: - Stanton who was over trained and burned out - Bradshaw who hated his job...
There are differences between 1993 and 2014:

1993 had the following:

- Stanton who was over trained and burned out
- Bradshaw who hated his job (racing dirt bikes)
- MX Keid and Rock who were better outdoors
- MC who brought new technique

1993 could of been radically different with a healthy RJ, motivated JMB, passionate Bradshaw, and hungry Stanton. MC, who has a lot of talent and changed the game also came into 250 class at the perfect time.

2014

- Field is stacked and hungry with veterans (DM 18, Stew, Dunge, Canard, Barcia)
- Field is stacked with youth (Tomac and KROC)
- Field has some serious rookies (DW15, BB4, JA, CS14)

The rider you mentioned, MC, changed the game via new technique. Before him, it was Hannah and RJ. RC and RV followed MC by changing the game. How/what technique, training does JA18 bring to the table?

* RV is a living legend. Comparing the 2015 SX champ to RV is foolish and short sighted.
newmann wrote:
[i]1993 had the following:[/i] [i]- Stanton who was over trained and burned out[/i] Could the same thing not be said for Villopoto? The guy spent the...
1993 had the following:

- Stanton who was over trained and burned out

Could the same thing not be said for Villopoto? The guy spent the last x number of years crushing everyone. That level of commitment is enough to drive anyone over the edge. Stanton was a stud though, dude did not have a flowing riding style, just muscled the bike around to one championship to another.
I agree.... the intensity, racing, training, traveling, press.... RV sounds burned out. Going to Europe is blessing for him, his family, and fans.

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11/18/2014 8:56pm
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Because of posts like this, vital is the gift that keeps giving...hahaha
If JA starts winning right away on a husky it won't have anything to do with McGrath... or 1993
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11/18/2014 8:58pm
Dx3moto wrote:
I think Jason Anderson has a lot of potential to be a threat, and will contend for wins/podiums, but look at someone like Jake Weimer. He...
I think Jason Anderson has a lot of potential to be a threat, and will contend for wins/podiums, but look at someone like Jake Weimer. He won a lot more than Anderson on 250's and look at him now. It's harsh but its the reality of professional motocross.
Please.. Comparing Weimer to Anderson is ludicrous.
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11/18/2014 10:57pm
I don't chime in on Vital very often, but to doubt that the next era of 450 moto is anything but Rokzen/Tomac, then AC is wishful thinking. Watch Anderson... You absolutely CANNOT ride a 450 the way he rides a 250. Case in point: why has Barcia struggled? (By "struggle", I simply mean has not lived up to expectations).
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11/18/2014 11:23pm
In the words of Murray Walker,(the F1 fans will know who he is, and I'm paraphrasing), "in Supercross anything can happen, and it usually does".
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11/19/2014 4:25am
bd wrote:
I agree.... the intensity, racing, training, traveling, press.... RV sounds burned out. Going to Europe is blessing for him, his family, and fans.

Is it?

The one thing I think is kinda not being talked about, even tho it's 17 races, RV is gonna be hassled like never before over there.

Every MXDN, the USA guys are followed like the ball in an under 7 soccer game... He's gonna be swamped.
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11/19/2014 4:51am
Why does the sport need him to ruin them early and rev up the game?

Any rider[s] that add variety and excitement to racing makes the sport more interesting.

Also please define "ruin".

I think RV going to the land of no ice cubes is great and it will make for interesting nationalism. He wins, 'Merica is the bestest, he doesn't and we'll come up with an excuse to reduce our cognitive dissonance..

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11/19/2014 5:04am
bayodome wrote:
jonesaustin - I like you're thinking on this, but just don't see it happening. In 1993, McGrath was not only coming off of a much more...
jonesaustin - I like you're thinking on this, but just don't see it happening. In 1993, McGrath was not only coming off of a much more dominant two years in a row ('91 and '92) of winning the West Coast SX series (plus finishing runner up in '90), he also brought a whole new BMX-inspired riding style with him that no one had ever seen before in the 250 class. Bayle had his super smooth style, Bradshaw was a flashy basher, and Stanton was a work horse. McGrath's style was a mixture of Bayle and Bradshaw that left Stanton (and the rest of the stiff riding paradigm) literally in the dust.

I do agree that Anderson has a unique riding style that's very enjoyable to watch, but are his style and speed that much better than everyone else who will be competing in 2015 to run away with premier class title in his rookie year? No. I have no doubt that he has race winning speed, and he could even be a championship contender, but the field is far more skilled, practiced, and refined than they were 22 years ago. There are few riding techniques that are kept secret nowadays, and riders are far more apt to pick up new tricks that may or may not work (look at Bogle's foot thingy...the jury's still out on that one if it does anything but you see more and more riders doing it nowadays).

Riders that break molds and break new ground in MX are rare:

Bailey and Bayle - precise and smooth
Bradshaw and Hannah - raw speed
McGrath - BMX style precision combined with raw talent
Carmichael - raw speed and 100 percent commitment to winning at all costs
Pastrana - pure talent, creative, perfect balance
Stewart - created a new riding technique, displayed true athleticism on a motorcycle

I would put guys like Roczen and Tomac in this list long before Anderson, but all of their careers are young and they still have plenty of time to make their marks.
"Stewart - created a new riding technique, displayed true athleticism on a motorcycle"


Haha...here we go. I'll give him credit for creating the modern day scrub, which by the way is over used, but the rest is pure BS. By saying that you are discrediting all the other greats as somehow not being athletic. And to leave RV of that list just shows your lack of knowledge/bias.
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11/19/2014 5:10am
I consider myself to be a huge JA fan, but I'm sorry, this guy is wishful thinking. I'd love for it to be true, but there are no real similarities between 93 and 14. That being said, I do believe he's kind of a dark horse going into the season and we'll see Him on the box frequently, with a win or possibly two during the season. Here's to hoping the Husky is all that n a bag a chips in its debut season...
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11/19/2014 5:23am
I don't chime in on Vital very often, but to doubt that the next era of 450 moto is anything but Rokzen/Tomac, then AC is wishful...
I don't chime in on Vital very often, but to doubt that the next era of 450 moto is anything but Rokzen/Tomac, then AC is wishful thinking. Watch Anderson... You absolutely CANNOT ride a 450 the way he rides a 250. Case in point: why has Barcia struggled? (By "struggle", I simply mean has not lived up to expectations).
Barcia doesn't know when to turn the aggression up or down and doesn't know how to maintain his momentum in corners. . . If you absolutely think you can't ride a 450 as aggressive as a 250, how do you explain how RV has been doing it over the last few years?

I'll answer, you have to have a VERY good off the bike program to tie along with your on the bike performance. Barcia no doubt works HARD. But hard does not equal efficient. The same can be said for many riders on the line.

Anderson proved that he really stepped up his off the bike program. So I wouldn't be surprised if he came out swinging. He's just a huge question mark if he can keep it going.

But I'll also agree that the podium will be full of KRoc, Tomac and AC will for the next decade.
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11/19/2014 5:49pm
I don't chime in on Vital very often, but to doubt that the next era of 450 moto is anything but Rokzen/Tomac, then AC is wishful...
I don't chime in on Vital very often, but to doubt that the next era of 450 moto is anything but Rokzen/Tomac, then AC is wishful thinking. Watch Anderson... You absolutely CANNOT ride a 450 the way he rides a 250. Case in point: why has Barcia struggled? (By "struggle", I simply mean has not lived up to expectations).
IWreckALot wrote:
Barcia doesn't know when to turn the aggression up or down and doesn't know how to maintain his momentum in corners. . . If you absolutely...
Barcia doesn't know when to turn the aggression up or down and doesn't know how to maintain his momentum in corners. . . If you absolutely think you can't ride a 450 as aggressive as a 250, how do you explain how RV has been doing it over the last few years?

I'll answer, you have to have a VERY good off the bike program to tie along with your on the bike performance. Barcia no doubt works HARD. But hard does not equal efficient. The same can be said for many riders on the line.

Anderson proved that he really stepped up his off the bike program. So I wouldn't be surprised if he came out swinging. He's just a huge question mark if he can keep it going.

But I'll also agree that the podium will be full of KRoc, Tomac and AC will for the next decade.
Watch RV ride...

He's aggressive in that he is going fast, but he rides that bike how you should, stands up a lot, uses high gears and the torque. He's not like Barcia at all.
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11/19/2014 8:56pm
I put tomac as the spoiler. It is my perception that when people speak of tomac they think of him as an outdoor guy. Realistically though I see see it coming down to trey, Roczen, or millsaps providing they all stay healthy. I think seely may podium and Anderson may as well also can't out reed for a potential win. If nothing else it will be a good season.
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11/19/2014 9:01pm
Anderson gave Seely the blues that's for sure

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