Never talk to the police ? ?

StephanieMitchell789
Edited Date/Time 11/9/2014 4:10pm
The first guy is funny.

The second guy is startling, at least to me. He is a cop who openly admits to lying to suspects during interrogations. I didn't know that was legal but he says it is.





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ATKpilot99 11/7/2014 10:25am
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I believe police are allowed to use deception during interogations .
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500guy 11/7/2014 12:18pm
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
I believe police are allowed to use deception during interogations .
The biggest deception is them telling you if you cooperate with them they will take it easy on you.

Best thing to do is say little or nothing, You after all have the right to remain silent and should use that right.
lostboy819 11/7/2014 12:23pm
11/7/2014 12:23pm
I talk to them all the time. Wink
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Uncle Tony 11/7/2014 12:31pm
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You should never talk to the police, when you are arrested and read your Miranda rights," anything you say can and will be used against you" they,the police are telling you to keep your mouth shut, but criminals are dumb or intimated by police and basically rat themselves out, a lawyer once told me " the best way to deal with our legal system is not to deal with it" good advice

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the_wood109 11/7/2014 1:36pm
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I've seen that lecture before, it's a pretty good one. It's a pretty unfortunate deal, especially with the police being held to such a low standard of accountability, but I understand that their tactics are effective and probably justified in most cases.
StephanieMitchell789 11/7/2014 1:57pm
11/7/2014 1:57pm
Yeah, I believe the cop who ends by saying that he doesn't intend to send innocent people in jail, although the stat the first guy quotes shows that something about the system is broken: in 25% of the "DNA exoneration" cases the wrongly accused defendants were people who shouldn't have talked to the cops but did.

Anyhoo, its a long video but I hope that people watch it!
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Cashmore 11/7/2014 2:53pm
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My brother and a few other relatives are police officers. I will never trust any of them after all the crap I hear
deltamotocross 11/7/2014 4:27pm
11/7/2014 4:27pm Edited Date/Time 11/7/2014 4:28pm
ATKpilot99 wrote:
I believe police are allowed to use deception during interogations .
500guy wrote:
The biggest deception is them telling you if you cooperate with them they will take it easy on you. Best thing to do is say little...
The biggest deception is them telling you if you cooperate with them they will take it easy on you.

Best thing to do is say little or nothing, You after all have the right to remain silent and should use that right.
Wrong. Best thing to do is be a decent and honest person, then you have no reason to lie..
Samdanny576 11/7/2014 4:37pm
11/7/2014 4:37pm
ATKpilot99 wrote:
I believe police are allowed to use deception during interogations .
500guy wrote:
The biggest deception is them telling you if you cooperate with them they will take it easy on you. Best thing to do is say little...
The biggest deception is them telling you if you cooperate with them they will take it easy on you.

Best thing to do is say little or nothing, You after all have the right to remain silent and should use that right.
deltamotocross wrote:
Wrong. Best thing to do is be a decent and honest person, then you have no reason to lie..
If you did something wrong, it's best to lawyer up and not say anything.
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the_wood109 11/7/2014 4:41pm
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deltamotocross wrote:
Wrong. Best thing to do is be a decent and honest person, then you have no reason to lie..
Wrong. It doesn't matter if you lie or not...get it? It can be something as simple as using a different word to say the same thing.

That is what the entire lecture is about. Not only by the lawyer, but the police officer actually further explains the approach that police take, specifically during interrogations. Many, many innocent people ended up in jail simply because they've given an honest statement to the police, but may have changed a single word or gotten a time frame off by a few minutes. Honesty doesn't mean much to authorities that are in a position to gain only by conviction. It's a case, not an actual reconstruction of reality.

You should actually watch the lecture.
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burn1986 11/7/2014 8:58pm
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Kind of like Clinton saying "I never had sex with that woman."
lostboy819 11/7/2014 9:30pm
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burn1986 wrote:
Kind of like Clinton saying "I never had sex with that woman."
Check and mate Laughing Laughing Laughing
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71Fish 11/8/2014 6:58am
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I had no idea there were so many Criminal Justice professors on Vital.
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71Fish wrote:
I had no idea there were so many Criminal Justice professors on Vital.
You don't need to be an expert or have a degree to form opinions based on available evidence.

Are you an internet engineer or a web developer? If not, then what makes you think you are qualified to post on a message board? Do you see the problem with that line of thinking?
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TDeath21 11/8/2014 6:17pm
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If they have suspicion of you being involved in a criminal act, I'd say the best thing to do is not talk at all.
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71Fish 11/8/2014 10:30pm
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71Fish wrote:
I had no idea there were so many Criminal Justice professors on Vital.
the_wood109 wrote:
You don't need to be an expert or have a degree to form opinions based on available evidence. Are you an internet engineer or a web...
You don't need to be an expert or have a degree to form opinions based on available evidence.

Are you an internet engineer or a web developer? If not, then what makes you think you are qualified to post on a message board? Do you see the problem with that line of thinking?
Actually I am, but I'm not advising people on how to use the internet, so my credential aren't a factor.

Advising people on legal matters when you have no professional experience or knowledge is just stupid. Hopefully no one takes your advice seriously, unless you are a law professional, then I stand corrected.
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500guy 11/9/2014 8:33am
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71Fish wrote:
I had no idea there were so many Criminal Justice professors on Vital.
the_wood109 wrote:
You don't need to be an expert or have a degree to form opinions based on available evidence. Are you an internet engineer or a web...
You don't need to be an expert or have a degree to form opinions based on available evidence.

Are you an internet engineer or a web developer? If not, then what makes you think you are qualified to post on a message board? Do you see the problem with that line of thinking?
71Fish wrote:
Actually I am, but I'm not advising people on how to use the internet, so my credential aren't a factor. Advising people on legal matters when...
Actually I am, but I'm not advising people on how to use the internet, so my credential aren't a factor.

Advising people on legal matters when you have no professional experience or knowledge is just stupid. Hopefully no one takes your advice seriously, unless you are a law professional, then I stand corrected.
You are right, You should log out and we should never discuss anything.

stupid discussion boards anyways right ?
Samdanny576 11/9/2014 8:42am
11/9/2014 8:42am
71Fish wrote:
I had no idea there were so many Criminal Justice professors on Vital.
the_wood109 wrote:
You don't need to be an expert or have a degree to form opinions based on available evidence. Are you an internet engineer or a web...
You don't need to be an expert or have a degree to form opinions based on available evidence.

Are you an internet engineer or a web developer? If not, then what makes you think you are qualified to post on a message board? Do you see the problem with that line of thinking?
71Fish wrote:
Actually I am, but I'm not advising people on how to use the internet, so my credential aren't a factor. Advising people on legal matters when...
Actually I am, but I'm not advising people on how to use the internet, so my credential aren't a factor.

Advising people on legal matters when you have no professional experience or knowledge is just stupid. Hopefully no one takes your advice seriously, unless you are a law professional, then I stand corrected.
You don't want to talk to the police without a lawyer if they feel you're involved in any sort of criminal activity.
You don't need a law degree to give that advice dip shit.
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71Fish 11/9/2014 4:10pm
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the_wood109 wrote:
You don't need to be an expert or have a degree to form opinions based on available evidence. Are you an internet engineer or a web...
You don't need to be an expert or have a degree to form opinions based on available evidence.

Are you an internet engineer or a web developer? If not, then what makes you think you are qualified to post on a message board? Do you see the problem with that line of thinking?
71Fish wrote:
Actually I am, but I'm not advising people on how to use the internet, so my credential aren't a factor. Advising people on legal matters when...
Actually I am, but I'm not advising people on how to use the internet, so my credential aren't a factor.

Advising people on legal matters when you have no professional experience or knowledge is just stupid. Hopefully no one takes your advice seriously, unless you are a law professional, then I stand corrected.
Samdanny576 wrote:
You don't want to talk to the police without a lawyer if they feel you're involved in any sort of criminal activity. You don't need a...
You don't want to talk to the police without a lawyer if they feel you're involved in any sort of criminal activity.
You don't need a law degree to give that advice dip shit.
Please reread your last comment.

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