Wow, RV would be the "first American" to......(wrong dude)

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Edited Date/Time 10/13/2014 12:31pm
When asked about racing the GPs in the Eric Johnson interview that ran on virtually every moto website this week, Ryan was asked about the possibility of winning. He said, “First of all, to have an American win in the first year would be huge.”

The facts: Ryan Villopoto would not be the first American to win in his first year—that as done by Danny LaPorte back in 1982…and it was huge.

And MXA went on to point out, RV went on to make more crazy incorrect comments about MX history and nobody corrected RV
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10/12/2014 1:33pm
RV isn't an MX historian. I don't even know if he likes riding. RV probably likes winning but most of all he loves the checks he gets for winning.
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10/12/2014 1:49pm
yes..... but..... this interview was a huge attempt for RV to reach out to the fan base and set a few things straight after so much hiding the facts
and so.... to calmly sit there with a very knowledgeable interviewer like Eric Johnson and make foggy statements about being the first American to do this and to do that is a bit inmature/unprofessional
10/12/2014 1:52pm
So because someone has already done it, it wouldn't be "huge?"

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10/12/2014 1:54pm
First in the modern era

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10/12/2014 1:57pm
WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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10/12/2014 1:58pm
Hi TripleFive,

you are drifting a bit away from the topic.
The quote from RV was:
“First of all, to have an American win in the first year would be huge.”
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10/12/2014 2:02pm
Julian wrote:
Hi TripleFive, you are drifting a bit away from the topic. The quote from RV was: “First of all, to have an American win in the...
Hi TripleFive,

you are drifting a bit away from the topic.
The quote from RV was:
“First of all, to have an American win in the first year would be huge.”
What's your point? It WOULD be huge for him to win in his first (and only) year in the GPs.
10/12/2014 2:03pm
Julian wrote:
Hi TripleFive, you are drifting a bit away from the topic. The quote from RV was: “First of all, to have an American win in the...
Hi TripleFive,

you are drifting a bit away from the topic.
The quote from RV was:
“First of all, to have an American win in the first year would be huge.”
Is english your first language?
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10/12/2014 2:08pm
my first language was the one that Billy Liles grew up speaking
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10/12/2014 2:27pm
who cares its a bonus he didn't retire this year and we get to see him one more year
10/12/2014 2:39pm
Did RV say that he would be the first to win in his first year? Or did he say that it would simply be huge?
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10/12/2014 2:39pm Edited Date/Time 10/12/2014 2:40pm
1. I don't see where he says it's never been done before.
2. Who cares?
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10/12/2014 3:06pm
TripleFive wrote:
Did RV say that he would be the first to win in his first year? Or did he say that it would simply be huge?
When asked about racing the GPs in the Eric Johnson interview that ran on virtually every moto website this week, Ryan was asked about the possibility of winning. He said, “First of all, to have an American win in the first year would be huge.”

I am too tired to go back and read the interview to be sure about the context, but it seems RV implied no American has ever gone to the GP's and won in his first year.

Then MXA pointed out Danny LaPort did it in his first year.

Maybe RV was referring to the MAIN GP CLASS when he said no American has ever done it -

Danny won the 250 GP title in his first year and that was actually when the 500 class was the BIG class.

So it is actually a bit of a gray area, it is late and I think we will give RV the benefit of the doubt, MXA may have just been trying to find some fault in RV that is not justified.

Regarding comment from Rewindcaz: 1. I don't see where he says it's never been done before.
here again RV comment: """"to have an American win in the first year would be huge.”""""
From a lawyer's point of view, you are right, RV never said it has never been done before, so you win Rewindcaz

It just may be that some readers understood from RV's comment that it had never been done. RV said, "it WOULD be huge" he did not say, it WILL be huge again,,,, the word WOULD implied it has not happened, but again, we'll give RV the benefit of the doubt due to the 250GP class vs the 500GP class.
10/12/2014 3:24pm
You got the wrong context. He never implied he's the first to pull that off if he did it. He said it's huge if an American wins it in his first year.
10/12/2014 3:25pm
Infer not imply.

When you're looking to be upset then it becomes easy to infer things like this.
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10/12/2014 3:30pm
Julian wrote:
When asked about racing the GPs in the Eric Johnson interview that ran on virtually every moto website this week, Ryan was asked about the possibility...
When asked about racing the GPs in the Eric Johnson interview that ran on virtually every moto website this week, Ryan was asked about the possibility of winning. He said, “First of all, to have an American win in the first year would be huge.”

The facts: Ryan Villopoto would not be the first American to win in his first year—that as done by Danny LaPorte back in 1982…and it was huge.

And MXA went on to point out, RV went on to make more crazy incorrect comments about MX history and nobody corrected RV
I see you're Polish... figures.
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10/12/2014 3:33pm
TripleFive wrote:
Did RV say that he would be the first to win in his first year? Or did he say that it would simply be huge?
Julian wrote:
When asked about racing the GPs in the Eric Johnson interview that ran on virtually every moto website this week, Ryan was asked about the possibility...
When asked about racing the GPs in the Eric Johnson interview that ran on virtually every moto website this week, Ryan was asked about the possibility of winning. He said, “First of all, to have an American win in the first year would be huge.”

I am too tired to go back and read the interview to be sure about the context, but it seems RV implied no American has ever gone to the GP's and won in his first year.

Then MXA pointed out Danny LaPort did it in his first year.

Maybe RV was referring to the MAIN GP CLASS when he said no American has ever done it -

Danny won the 250 GP title in his first year and that was actually when the 500 class was the BIG class.

So it is actually a bit of a gray area, it is late and I think we will give RV the benefit of the doubt, MXA may have just been trying to find some fault in RV that is not justified.

Regarding comment from Rewindcaz: 1. I don't see where he says it's never been done before.
here again RV comment: """"to have an American win in the first year would be huge.”""""
From a lawyer's point of view, you are right, RV never said it has never been done before, so you win Rewindcaz

It just may be that some readers understood from RV's comment that it had never been done. RV said, "it WOULD be huge" he did not say, it WILL be huge again,,,, the word WOULD implied it has not happened, but again, we'll give RV the benefit of the doubt due to the 250GP class vs the 500GP class.
Vitard...From Wikipedia -
A moto head that's too damn tired, or too damn dimwitted to look up the context but will go ahead and start a new topic slamming a racer for a statement they've interpreted poorly.
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10/12/2014 3:36pm Edited Date/Time 10/12/2014 3:36pm
I'm not gonna guess that RV or anyone on his camp knows or not, but 555 is right, it's not wrong to say its huge.

It'd be wrong to say it's never been done before.
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10/12/2014 4:38pm Edited Date/Time 10/12/2014 4:38pm
Where did he say that he would be the first to do it? Oh yeah he didn't, it's some of you guys jumping to conclusions.


By the way, it would be huge for an American to win in the first year.
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10/12/2014 4:41pm
I thought he said he would be the first reigning champion to go over there!
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10/12/2014 4:48pm
You got the wrong context. He never implied he's the first to pull that off if he did it. He said it's huge if an American...
You got the wrong context. He never implied he's the first to pull that off if he did it. He said it's huge if an American wins it in his first year.
THIS......
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10/12/2014 4:48pm
Kawaboy14 wrote:
I thought he said he would be the first reigning champion to go over there!
Moore and Schimdt hadn't won anything major had they. Same for Danny and Lackey?
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10/12/2014 4:51pm Edited Date/Time 10/12/2014 4:53pm
Kawaboy14 wrote:
I thought he said he would be the first reigning champion to go over there!
Crush wrote:
Moore and Schimdt hadn't won anything major had they. Same for Danny and Lackey?
Were they reigning champions that left the very next year? I don't know that answer!
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10/12/2014 4:57pm Edited Date/Time 10/12/2014 4:59pm
TripleFive wrote:
Did RV say that he would be the first to win in his first year? Or did he say that it would simply be huge?
This is what I was thinking.
It would be huge to win in his first year. I didn't see where he'd be the first American to win in his first year.
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10/12/2014 5:07pm Edited Date/Time 10/12/2014 5:09pm
It's about context,an American has actually already won it in the first year,if he knew this maybe he should have said huge in their (or his) first year,or is huge to seperate things from it already have been done and the present/future tense?Dizzy

Anyhow It would be huge for him to do it,or it to be done,and as in the other thread,although Lackey was AMA 500 champ and top American in the Trans-Am series the year he went but wasn't in RV's league,that makes it an even bigger deal of him going-it's huge.

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10/12/2014 6:45pm
it would be huge if RV won it in his first year attempt, to say otherwise is just plain stupid...

too many nitwits on here will overanalyze and misinterpret anything because of preconceived notions in their pea brains.....
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10/12/2014 6:49pm
it would be huge if RV won it in his first year attempt, to say otherwise is just plain stupid... too many nitwits on here will...
it would be huge if RV won it in his first year attempt, to say otherwise is just plain stupid...

too many nitwits on here will overanalyze and misinterpret anything because of preconceived notions in their pea brains.....
Yep.
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10/12/2014 7:30pm
No wonder dude wants to retire.
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10/12/2014 7:37pm
Julian wrote:
When asked about racing the GPs in the Eric Johnson interview that ran on virtually every moto website this week, Ryan was asked about the possibility...
When asked about racing the GPs in the Eric Johnson interview that ran on virtually every moto website this week, Ryan was asked about the possibility of winning. He said, “First of all, to have an American win in the first year would be huge.”

The facts: Ryan Villopoto would not be the first American to win in his first year—that as done by Danny LaPorte back in 1982…and it was huge.

And MXA went on to point out, RV went on to make more crazy incorrect comments about MX history and nobody corrected RV
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10/12/2014 7:38pm
Anything villopoto does in 2015 trumps anything any of those guys did way the fuck back than. Things are so far evolved from back than. Villopoto beating cairolli on his turf in 2015 would be huge.

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